Syndicate Remake Revealed as a Shooter - UPDATED

[[zonking great]]

It's not supposed to be a damn shooter!

 

[teh_gunslinger]

I perfectly understand people being upset about this one because of the genre change.... but the majority of escapists here are console gamers. Why don't you guys understand that Consoles WON'T have over-the-top squad based strategy games. It's just NOT going to happen. Just get the fuck over it.

Alternatively if this was a PC exclusive: (which no big developer will make nowaydays anyway) A)it would undersell like dogshit. B)The majority of people here will whine about not being able to play it! It's a lose-lose situation.

Hence it's either THIS Syndicate or NO Syndicate. Choose.

No Syndicate, then.

EYE was closer to Syndicate than this is shaping up to be. EYE also is miles better than this is shaping up to be.

And let's not even get into the fact that the four agents in the original were remote controlled drones, not Sgt. Miles Ekworth or whatever his name was.

 

[Quiet Stranger]

I can bet you that most of the people who are bitching about how they changed it into an FPS probably haven't even PLAYED the originals.

I won't be playing this cause it sounds way too much like Deus Ex: HR

 

[Jake Martinez]

Hey guys, will it have CHEST HIGH WALLS?

It better have CHEST HIGH WALLS OR ELSE!!!22oneone!!

Who ever is making these decisions over at EA needs to die in a fucking tire fire.

 

[individual11]

Hey guys, will it have CHEST HIGH WALLS?

It better have CHEST HIGH WALLS OR ELSE!!!22oneone!!

Who ever is making these decisions over at EA needs to die in a fucking tire fire.

Heh, you'd better be able to quickscope as well.

 

[Trikeen]

Goddamnit, I wish that RTS would stop being remade as FPS. Did nobody see how well Starcraft 2 sold? :/

 

[Lordmarkus]

I perfectly understand people being upset about this one because of the genre change.... but the majority of escapists here are console gamers. Why don't you guys understand that Consoles WON'T have over-the-top squad based strategy games. It's just NOT going to happen. Just get the fuck over it.

Alternatively if this was a PC exclusive: (which no big developer will make nowaydays anyway) A)it would undersell like dogshit. B)The majority of people here will whine about not being able to play it! It's a lose-lose situation.

Hence it's either THIS Syndicate or NO Syndicate. Choose.

NO Syndicate

And in other news, Civilization, Total War and StarCraft are being remade into FPSs because of their abundant lack of sales and not being relevant enough in todays cancerous gamingindustry.

 

[BloodRed Pixel]

syndicate you played a corporate executive in charge of brainwashed cyber enhanced agents that slughtered and brainwashed everyone in their path in the name of corporate expansion.

so will we get to walk in to a level and mow innocent people down by the hundreds just for kicks? slaughter police left right and centre? brainwash and abduct people enmass and turn them in to cyborg agent killing machines? will we get to assassinate politicians who are in a motorcade by setting a bomb then slaughtering everyone on the route?

this reboot is missing the thing that made syndicate a classic. there were no heros, there were no good people, no good companies.it was a world of dark grey and neon. it was cyberpunk at its true essence a cyber enhanced world of darkness where people chose to be chipped so they saw the world as a fantasy of all things bright and cheery rather than the darkness and misery that was reality around them.

this is a generic cyberpunk fps cashing in on the latest trend that happens to have the name syndicate. but it isnt THE syndicate.

People who say the SYNDICATE Reboot FPS will be good have obviously no clue about about what you are saying, as they have never experienced the originals and def. don´t get the sarcastic humour of it either *sigh*.

 

[ExileNZ]

Because Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel worked out so well...

I'm disappointed already, but if they manage to decently expand on the world (instead of just rewriting it into Deus Ex) then I'll wait for reviews before I judge it too harshly.

Now, obviously, we'll be expecting fully destructible terrain and the Cataclysm atomic grenade, since those were delivered in 1996...

 

[BoogieManFL]

How very disappointing. There are too damn many shooter games as it is, Syndicate was unique. Why ruin that?

Not nearly as excited about this any more.

 

[Moromillas]

Aw wtf. What a goddamn waste... What kind of moron makes these kinds of decisions. Ah well, at least there's Skyrim and Diablo 3 to look forward to.

 

[ExileNZ]

I perfectly understand people being upset about this one because of the genre change.... but the majority of escapists here are console gamers. Why don't you guys understand that Consoles WON'T have over-the-top squad based strategy games. It's just NOT going to happen. Just get the fuck over it.

Alternatively if this was a PC exclusive: (which no big developer will make nowaydays anyway) A)it would undersell like dogshit. B)The majority of people here will whine about not being able to play it! It's a lose-lose situation.

Hence it's either THIS Syndicate or NO Syndicate. Choose.

Syndicate and Syndicate Wars both came out on consoles: the former on the 3DO and the latter on the Playstation.

So no, being a strategy game doesn't require a PC.
Plus, you know, Halo Wars (1 million sales in 2 weeks). Just sayin'.

Also, it's more than a little presumptuous to assume that the majority of Escapists are console gamers. By all means, look it up in the numerous forum polls, but I'm not going to do it for you - it's your claim, it's your fucking job.

Finally, FPSs are relatively new ground on Consoles - they never really worked until Halo.
Yes, I've played Golden Eye and Turok on the N64, the controls were shit and unwieldly.

 

[Andy of Comix Inc]

Richard Morgan also wrote Crysis 2. So that's what his videogame writing credentials are so far; and as everyone knows, that script was clearly the best part of the game. "(Threat/superior enity) invades (city/country/planet)."

 

[Giftmacher]

It's a bit of a damning indictment of the gaming industry; it's become so conservative it won't even remake *successful* franchises in the original format. It seems like everything needs to be an FPS these days lest some stuffed suit wails about the bottom line; it's sad and short sighted. Seriously, is it really good business to blend into the crowd by serving up what everyone else is?

Bad enough the aforementioned (proper) x-com won't be happening, I'm sure this is why we don't have another X-wing vs TIE fighter in the works and who knows what else. Tedious industry trends, how long is it going to take before someone notices we're pretty much at FPS-saturation point? >:

-Gift.

 

[warmonkey]

The screenshots are great, too bad about the internet rage though.

are they? are they really?

lens flare? check
grey and brown color scheme? check
bloom, bloom everywhere? check
fog, mist, dust clouds partially obscuring things? check
"realistic" motion blur? check

I have a hard time calling these screenshots good, let alone great. They're generic, and full of every single obnoxious thing that you can find in every single other generic modern FPS title. All we need is blood spatter over the "camera" which is supposed to be your eyes. Because that's gritty and realistic. People get splattered with blood on their eyeballs in patterns like you would find on a camera lens all the time! Yeah!

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

Shooters - because most people are too dumb to play anything else.

 

[Vankraken]

Syndicate and Syndicate Wars both came out on consoles: the former on the 3DO and the latter on the Playstation.

So no, being a strategy game doesn't require a PC.
Plus, you know, Halo Wars (1 million sales in 2 weeks). Just sayin'.

Also, it's more than a little presumptuous to assume that the majority of Escapists are console gamers. By all means, look it up in the numerous forum polls, but I'm not going to do it for you - it's your claim, it's your fucking job.

Finally, FPSs are relatively new ground on Consoles - they never really worked until Halo.
Yes, I've played Golden Eye and Turok on the N64, the controls were shit and unwieldly.

Yes syndicate came out on some consoles but the controls are shitty without a mouse and I would never use Halo Wars as an example of how RTS can work on a console. People bought it because it has Halo in the name, not because it was a marvel of RTS innovation, polish, or story telling.

In addition your example of how Golden Eye and Turok had shitty controls are exactly the problems with RTS. Game pads have shitty cursor precision and RTS needs precise controls (the things that made FPS work on consoles like aim assist aren't compatible with RTS). Also without a keyboard your controls become limited to the 11 or so buttons on a controller and your typical RTS needs a wider array of command inputs so you have to create layered key bindings which are always a ***** to use.

Anyways onto the topic of syndicate being FPS........ WTF! Seriously gaming industry please stop with the fail.....

In actuality I will hold my opinion in reserve as I do not think making syndicate FPS would be terrible idea. Yes it is a strategy game but it is also about action and if done right it might be ok. 4 player co-op feels like a good thing and if there is more depth than "aim gun, fire, repeat, profit" then it might work. Then again they will eventually show the game off and it will be a MW or Halo clone and I'll be forced to rage flip my desk.

At least the Jagged Alliance remake is still a tactical strategy game and the Tropico 3/4 have stayed true to the original's formula. Incoming Lemmings action/adventure remake just saying.

 

[Rack]

I don't get it, is the FPS really so big that gunning for whoever isn't so sick to bloody death of them after playing the Gears, Halo, CoD, Battlefield, Resistance and Killzone release for that year against the 500-odd competitors is going to mean more sales than being the only fish in the action-squad based strategy pond?

 

[Sebenko]

"No Syndicate," thanks.

Agreed.

I don't see a single trenchcoat in those screens, either.

This can, in no uncertain terms, fuck off.

 

[JoshuaMadoc]

I can bet you that most of the people who are bitching about how they changed it into an FPS probably haven't even PLAYED the originals.

I won't be playing this cause it sounds way too much like Deus Ex: HR

Oh, don't you even bloody start. I happen to have spent some nights at a sleepover back in the late 90s playing Syndicate Wars on the PSX.