"That's Not a Real Job"

[synobal]

"That's not a real job!"

"Yeah well people pay me for it so I guess lucky me huh? Don't you wish you didn't have a real job too?"

Seriously that real job stuff all comes from Jealousy.

 

[Yopaz]

There are people managing to live quite well by begging.

Source, please.

This comes from personal experience so sadly I can't provide you with any good sources here. You might not believe it, but it happens.

Now you ignored my question there. Let's say that hypothetically some people manage to get by from begging. Is that a real job? You know, if you had answered that question to begin with you wouldn't have had a low content post, just saying.

 

[Sigmund Av Volsung]

Would you expect to pay 10$ for a Van Gogh?

Yes, back when he was alive(fact!)

I can't even understand exactly how a person can even say this; barely anyone wants to work in a factory/involving manual labour: the people I know/have met say that they never want to work in something involving physical labour, even those whose jobs have them working in such a manner.

Also, you don't need me to tell you that you should never listen to asshats that have criteria for how "real" an occupation is.

Tell them to fuck off to their real job/tell them that you can't hear them over your paycheck.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

There are people managing to live quite well by begging.

Source, please.

just one of many

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/23/shane-warren-speegle-says_n_1694577.html

i can't remember the show, but they followed this guy home one day and he walked into his house with a fucking bmw convertible out front.

you'd be surprised in which cities beggars can make some bank in.

 

[BaronUberstein]

I get this all the time off my brother who's in finance and banking. "Teaching isn't a real job and you need to get in the real world."

My response:

"Yeah well at least teachers contribute to society rather than ruining our economy."

...teaching isn't a real job? Who the hell is going to TEACH THE NEXT GENERATION HOW TO DO ANYTHING?!

Your brother needs to get his priorities straight. :|

 

[Old Father Eternity]

How goes the saying again ... "A job does not make a man but a man makes the job"

 

[BishopofAges]

I work pretty hard at my job, hauling stuff, cleaning stuff, arranging stuff. I have to wear a back support so I don't go home in agony. I do not take breaks because A) I don't have to with the hours I work and B) If I do I end up more screwed than when I left. Do I consider it a real job? Yes. I am going to school for a degree in digital media. Would I like to have a job that doesn't require the previous level of physical labor? Yes. Would I consider it a real job? Also Yes.

It is my belief that all the jobs in this world have to be done, there is no "Man's job" or "woman's work" or "real job" or "fake job" there are just "Jobs" and the people that do them. So to anyone who believes they can pick and choose which jobs have real merit, I say, "Your opinion means less to me than that feeling when your foot falls asleep."

 

[Vausch]

You ever get someone that tells you that? I got an argument with someone that says art isn't a real job because there's no physical labour involved, and nobody should charge more than 10 dollars for a drawing. Needless to say many erupted at him, but I've heard this about almost every job that involves entertainment or the like.

All I hear from it is "Stop enjoying your work and have a miserable job like mine". I mean, what is a "real" job? I perform a service, people are willing to pay for it, I get paid. Is it not a real job because I enjoy doing it?

ignore that guy, he is just set in his ways. i can see his angle, and yes it is nice to break a sweat and stand back at the end of the day and be satisfied that you made/accomplished something. but when it comes down to it we all work for money. if somebody offerd me £100 an hour to pick up rubbish I would jump at it.

I also like to doodle on the side by the way, I once had to paint a 'sign' I guess you would call it, for this old guys canal boat. now I'm not a painter but I think I did an ok job but I felt super bad at the money he offerd me, I was expecting 20 at most for materials and a pint.
what sort of stuff do you draw/paint/create?

Multiple things. It's mostly cartoons and comic book work, colouring for a webcomic my friend does, and occasionally something bigger.

 

[Gatx]

I think when people say get a " real" job , they mean , get a job that will sarn you a substancial amount of money . A job where , people won't look down on you . A job of importance .

Now you have everh right to say that's shit , but you cannot deny that in the eyes if a vast majority of people , art is not a worthwhile job .

People make money all the time from art, selling paintings, doing commissions, etc. If they can make a regular income from doing it, how can anyone say it's not a "job."

 

[VoidWanderer]

I do Alarm Monitoring and it is a real conversation killer.

Who cares what other people think, other people can be idiots, and the internet proves this time and again.

 

[King Aragorn]

eh while i think the entertainment industry is way over valued sometimes in terms of how much some people make, they are all DEFINITELY real jobs


(and don't quote me with "blah blah people are willing to pay blah blah" crap, i understand all of it, doesn't mean i have to like it.)

Well then, may I ask why don't you like it? I don't see what's wrong with that myself.

I get this all the time off my brother who's in finance and banking. "Teaching isn't a real job and you need to get in the real world."

My response:

"Yeah well at least teachers contribute to society rather than ruining our economy."

Hmm...I wonder who teached him finance and banking...
Oh wait, teachers!

well this has my long distaste for "assholes" (see apple company) and people willingly overpay to that garbage of a company for products that are nowhere near better than quite a few other substitute goods. i'm not trying to diss the actual product itself, but it is WAYYY overvalued, and i couldn't help but have one fat grin on my face when i saw apple's stocks fall by fucking 300 this past season.

also, i just find it almost disgusting how incredibly rich some entertainment artists/players are and their publishers are too. nfl/nba/mlb players, most of them make insaneeeeee amounts of money. i'm not trying to diss athletes, but you play for what, 10-12 years? and most of them are set for life.

personal example: my best friend's fiance's sister, just graduated high school this past year, she is dumb as a fucking bag of bricks and is as lazy as one too, but she makes insane amounts of bank for her artistic skills, each of her paintings usually sells for 5-10 grand, and these are just the ones she hasn't even made a name for herself with yet. as of right now she's sold 7 or 8 paintings i know of in the past 10 months, which racks up to around ~50 grand averaging.

yes obviously talent/skills factor into it and everything, i just think the "entertainment" industry is way over valued for what people are willing to pay for crap.

I personally think you underestimate art. Art is a vital form of self expression, it tells us about ourselves, about our culture, I think it's an important part of society. And that applies to movies, games, so and so forth.
When someone has secured the more vitals things for living *Food, water, a proper home, etc* I see no problem in one providing himself with entertainment. You can trace it back to the industrial revolution, after a while, people became wealthy enough that they demanded entertainment, education, etc.

Basically, after you secure yourself vitals, what there is to spend on? its territory goods/''luxuries'', and I don't think there is a problem with it. The people behind them put as much work as others do into other goods.

And hey, I like Apple.

well that's fine, so your happy with the way things are.

personally, i don't see why i should ever pay 10 grand for some piece of art when i can take a picture of it or photo copy it and hang it on my wall.

bam. probably costed a couple bucks at kinko's. i can understand when you are covering cost of supplies and whatnot, but if you actually cranked out $/hr earnings it would be just ridiculous.

and do you like apple as a company or do you like their products? the latter, then fine, i have no problem with someone liking their product, it's streamlined to be very friendly to the average person. i just hate everything else about it/the company is all.

More or less, I think that's just stems from the fact that we as humans, like to have something that's original/authentic. Because a copy is often looked down as of less value/importance.

And I like the product, the company....eh. I'm not a fan of what they sometimes do, but I do think some people make them seem worse than they really are.

 

[lacktheknack]

"Well, I'm getting paid for not having a job. Clearly I'm in a better position than you."

I never understood why people say things that make them look like suckers in order to feel better about themselves. Maybe there's more masochists out there than we admit.

 

[lacktheknack]

I think when people say get a " real" job , they mean , get a job that will sarn you a substancial amount of money . A job where , people won't look down on you . A job of importance .

Now you have everh right to say that's shit , but you cannot deny that in the eyes if a vast majority of people , art is not a worthwhile job .

By that logic, my job as a cashier is "not a real job".

To which I will happily ask them if they'd like to scan and bag all $400 of those groceries by their lonesome, seeing how I have much better things to do than stand around and do stuff that they say "isn't worth doing".

 

[mattaui]

I'll tell you a little secret. Most people who say such things about creative pursuits not being real jobs are actually intensely jealous that you could do something you enjoy, and that brings joy to others, and still get paid for it. Confront them with that, and of course they'll deny it, and try to make something up about it being about how much money you make, or some canard like contributing to society. Those are all easily dispensed with as well, but you're really doing yourself a disservice to feel like you have to answer to someone like that at all.

 

[Zeke63]

I'll tell you a little secret. Most people who say such things about creative pursuits not being real jobs are actually intensely jealous that you could do something you enjoy, and that brings joy to others, and still get paid for it. Confront them with that, and of course they'll deny it, and try to make something up about it being about how much money you make, or some canard like contributing to society. Those are all easily dispensed with as well, but you're really doing yourself a disservice to feel like you have to answer to someone like that at all.

this exact scenario is what made me lose a great deal of my high school friends

 

[krazykidd]

I think when people say get a " real" job , they mean , get a job that will sarn you a substancial amount of money . A job where , people won't look down on you . A job of importance .

Now you have everh right to say that's shit , but you cannot deny that in the eyes if a vast majority of people , art is not a worthwhile job .

By that logic, my job as a cashier is "not a real job".

To which I will happily ask them if they'd like to scan and bag all $400 of those groceries by their lonesome, seeing how I have much better things to do than stand around and do stuff that they say "isn't worth doing".

And i wholeheartedly agree . But unfortunately ,people in society often uses faulty logic to valorize themselves and look down on others. That was all i was trying to say in my original post.

 

[chikusho]

Who cares if a job is real or not if you can make a living out of it.
Hell, this guy is making paper just fucking wearing t-shirts: http://www.iwearyourshirt.com/

 

[Diddy_Mao]

Whatever honest work earns you your daily bread is absolutely a "real" job and I won't hear otherwise.

I used to get this from some of the developers I worked with. "You're just doing the automated testing. Get to work on the "real work" you were assigned."

Conveniently forgetting that their sloppy ass code was the whole reason I had to run bi-weekly automated tests.

 

[Zeke63]

Whatever honest work earns you your daily bread is absolutely a "real" job and I won't hear otherwise.

I used to get this from some of the developers I worked with. "You're just doing the automated testing. Get to work on the "real work" you were assigned."

Conveniently forgetting that their sloppy ass code was the whole reason I had to run bi-weekly automated tests.

what is an automated test versus what they say is your "actual" purpose?

 

[Sir Thomas Sean Connery]

It's just people trying to feel superior to you by undervaluing what you do.

Same thing happens everywhere.

Well THAT'S not a real video game! You haven't died in the last 30 seconds!

THAT'S not real sex, you payed for it!

You didn't watch a REAL movie! It didn't have gay French people pretentiously eating pudding!

It's all the same nonsense.
Every definition of everything was essentially made up. Only you can decide how something is defined.