"That's Not a Real Job"
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The only job I've seen that I would classify as "not a real job" is Careers Advisor. My Careers Advisor at highschool outsourced the one task he had to do all year - setting up and monitoring work experience - to the English staff somehow.
But jokes aside, if you provide a good or service that people are willing to pay for, you have a real job. Art in particular. If they could do better themselves, or if it's something that isn't worthwhile, no-one would buy art and there would be no jobs to be had. They're paying for your creativity. Now, if you're just going to splash paint around from the can and pretend it means something, I wouldn't pay for that, but if someone would then it has value to them.
But jokes aside, if you provide a good or service that people are willing to pay for, you have a real job. Art in particular. If they could do better themselves, or if it's something that isn't worthwhile, no-one would buy art and there would be no jobs to be had. They're paying for your creativity. Now, if you're just going to splash paint around from the can and pretend it means something, I wouldn't pay for that, but if someone would then it has value to them.
That made my day, a 'fast majority'...Bocaj2000 said:
Professional buscing, or whatever its called. When I was on the dole I overheard a guy complaining to his friend at the job centre about how little money people had given him. It bugged me that he was clearly willing to waste time playing music for next to no money all day when he could have spent it actually looking for work. It seemed as though they were abusing the system so that they could continue to make next to nothing for enjoying their hobby. I can certainly understand that they may have been playing on the street to supplement their income rather than the other way around but im still going to treat such individuals as guilty until proven innocent.x-Tomfoolery-x said:
Which I was, but how does even that factor into it honestly?Requia said:
You know what, put me on ignore or don't respond at all.
I can tell this is going to end up with me killing myself over the stupidity and ignorance of others.
Also, yes please go ahead and report me.
I know it will make you feel better.
How you feel about your job is only thing that matters in this sense. But for example I heard some graphic designers complain that their job feels completely useless, they liked what they did and made money but they just felt that making company logos doesn't contribute much to society.
Because it's not a real job.Vausch said:
It's ART. Which is WAY better than a real job. Man, art is the stuff we'll be remembered by, it's culture, in a nutshell. Everything we do, everything we are, is displayed by art. How much of history is defined by the images people made?
Just because I can't eat art (well, sometimes it's edible), or because I can't utilize it in my life (again, not completely true) doesn't mean it shouldn't exist.
A good painting, or a well-told story, or beautiful music makes people feel. It tears us away from drab everyday living and gives us a sense of escapism.
You might have noticed...I'm a fan.
Yup, can't stand people like that. I wanted to be a writer since I was very young, and since then my parents have done their best to beat it out of me. "You'll need a job that will actually make you money", they said very often. I then wanted to become an English professor, but no, "You better just graduate from college with that four year degree and get a job now to pay off that debt, because going to college longer to be a professor will just add more money to that debt and you won't be able to get a job as one when you are out, because I heard it is real hard."
So now being guilt tripped into it, I'm now stuck taking care of my "sick" mother(don't get me started on that on), working a part time job at a home improvement store, because that is all I can get with a four year English degree with no specialty skills to make it go places(the little packet that college career centers give out that are suppose to show what a person can do with a plain English degree, are wrong out of touch shit).
On the other end of the spectrum I can't stand the younger people today who think that they shouldn't have to work hard at a job that so many others would be glad to take to at least get some money coming in.
In the past couple months at the home improvement store where I work(morning stock 5 to 9, five days a week, all stocking jobs are part time most places now), we've had to different young guys 19 to 21, around that age, get hired and they lasted all of a month each. Because we were working them oh so hard, and both had the nerve to ask for more hours as they also complained that they work worked to hard by our managers. Boo-hoo, give me a break.
So now being guilt tripped into it, I'm now stuck taking care of my "sick" mother(don't get me started on that on), working a part time job at a home improvement store, because that is all I can get with a four year English degree with no specialty skills to make it go places(the little packet that college career centers give out that are suppose to show what a person can do with a plain English degree, are wrong out of touch shit).
On the other end of the spectrum I can't stand the younger people today who think that they shouldn't have to work hard at a job that so many others would be glad to take to at least get some money coming in.
In the past couple months at the home improvement store where I work(morning stock 5 to 9, five days a week, all stocking jobs are part time most places now), we've had to different young guys 19 to 21, around that age, get hired and they lasted all of a month each. Because we were working them oh so hard, and both had the nerve to ask for more hours as they also complained that they work worked to hard by our managers. Boo-hoo, give me a break.
Meh, I get the same shit because I work management at McDonald's. My girlfriend holds the same position at another store and we make enough money to afford a place to live, food in our bellies, two vehicles and insurance on both, and at least one new $60 video game every month. Not to mention all the lavish and "unnecessary" stuff we already have paid off and own. I have never received a government check, never begged, and I have always repaid my debts (usually $20 here or there for gas from my mom or some such 
). So really, fuck em. You aren't a parasite on society, leeching off other tax-payers and that should be good enough for them.
). So really, fuck em. You aren't a parasite on society, leeching off other tax-payers and that should be good enough for them.I agree, its bullshit that you can't get anything on credit because you don't owe someone money. You'd think that if anything it'd make credit agencies more confident in the fact that will pay them back.. but whatever.Aramis Night said:
I work on youtube for a living and I constantly get told that's not a "real" job.
Why? Because the end result is fun? Just because something is fun doesn't mean work doesn't go into it. I've spent over 5 hours working on 10 seconds of footage before.
My response is generally to ask if working at a fast food place is a "real" job, to which I've never received the answer "no."
So working at a fast food place is a real job. To make 10 dollars have to stand at a cash register and relay the message of what kind of burger somebody wants 20-30 times.
To make 10 dollars I have to entertain roughly 10 thousand people, give or take.
If I spend 12 hours working on a video and it gets 50,000 views, even if I've spent no money in making it (which is almost never the case) then I've worked more hours than a full time job for less than minimum wage. I've entertained thousands of people. You've helped feed a few hundred grease. Which one of us is making a bigger impact on society? Food for thought.
Why? Because the end result is fun? Just because something is fun doesn't mean work doesn't go into it. I've spent over 5 hours working on 10 seconds of footage before.
My response is generally to ask if working at a fast food place is a "real" job, to which I've never received the answer "no."
So working at a fast food place is a real job. To make 10 dollars have to stand at a cash register and relay the message of what kind of burger somebody wants 20-30 times.
To make 10 dollars I have to entertain roughly 10 thousand people, give or take.
If I spend 12 hours working on a video and it gets 50,000 views, even if I've spent no money in making it (which is almost never the case) then I've worked more hours than a full time job for less than minimum wage. I've entertained thousands of people. You've helped feed a few hundred grease. Which one of us is making a bigger impact on society? Food for thought.
oh yes, sorry not trying to dismiss your point, i just saw you asked for a source and i knew that there WAS something out there that i had read/seen before, so just was adding some feedbackCrossLOPER said:
I am bugging my congressmen and representatives, to pass legislation to automatically give good credit points to people every year they do not have debt. Trying to get others to join me.Aramis Night said:
I am thinking about getting more involved in politics just to bug people to fix problems like this. It is good too see other fiscal conservatives out there (Note: I said FISCAL, just nipping the dozen people hating on me for saying the "C" word)