"That's Not a Real Job"
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oh yes, sorry not trying to dismiss your point, i just saw you asked for a source and i knew that there WAS something out there that i had read/seen before, so just was adding some feedbackCrossLOPER said:
I am bugging my congressmen and representatives, to pass legislation to automatically give good credit points to people every year they do not have debt. Trying to get others to join me.Aramis Night said:
I am thinking about getting more involved in politics just to bug people to fix problems like this. It is good too see other fiscal conservatives out there (Note: I said FISCAL, just nipping the dozen people hating on me for saying the "C" word)
I think part of this reaction (the initial one, not the one going on in this thread) comes from how there's still a lot of respect for and appreciation of manual labor and things that are physically difficult. I think for the most part those deserve a certain respect and everyone that's able should know what doing things like that is like. I think it's also somewhat respect and appreciation for things that are highly intellectually difficult, or at least are considered to be, like being doctor or a lawyer.
I don't earn enough money to live alone, financially speaking, and am dependant on my parents at this stage in life until I can find even more work.
I currently hold two jobs, and get next to no hours for both.
Do I tell people I don't have a job? Hell the fuck no. I work two jobs and they both aren't good enough for me to be independant. Doesn't mean they aren't "real."
I currently hold two jobs, and get next to no hours for both.
Do I tell people I don't have a job? Hell the fuck no. I work two jobs and they both aren't good enough for me to be independant. Doesn't mean they aren't "real."
I would love it if my lack of debt would reflect well on my credit score. But i don't think that passing laws is the answer. It just shows that credit scores are less of an indication of risk and more an indication of potential profit for lending agencies. If you do not have debt and are driven to stay debt free, than any lenders you deal with don't stand to make much money on interest dealing with you and have no incentive to do so.Gilhelmi said:
One solution i would like to see is credit scores being information beyond the reach of any businesses that are not lenders and only with your permission to obtain a loan or credit. Living within your means could in some fields actually cost you promotions because some employers do credit checks.
Oh and don't worry. I'm not offended by the notion of being related to fiscal conservatism. My positions are varied, but i'll admit that fiscal conservatives have a lot of good points. I'll take that as a compliment
I disagree. You can do illegal things and it be a job. It's just illegal.Binnsyboy said:
If you make your money pit-fighting, you have a job. It's 'Pit Fighter'. It's just not legal.
If you launder money, you have a job. It's 'Financial Decorator'... or 'Money Launderer'. It's a job, it's just not legal.
I suppose though you've just got to be ethically broken to go down that road.
OT: Yup. I got told that about teaching people how to fight. Of all things. My response was to give him the finger and say 'Come at me then.' I don't give too much of a shit about the opinions of society and the people therein.
Well, going by the impression I get from game developers they certainly seem to think that writing isn't a real job.
Currently I work in a pharmacy dispensing medication to people who need it to control problematic conditions, yet I earn £6000 a year whilst someone who kicks a ball around a field can earn £600,000 a week. Not saying I should earn that much because no one, no matter what they do, should. But it is evidence that capitalism is entirely broken.
Currently I work in a pharmacy dispensing medication to people who need it to control problematic conditions, yet I earn £6000 a year whilst someone who kicks a ball around a field can earn £600,000 a week. Not saying I should earn that much because no one, no matter what they do, should. But it is evidence that capitalism is entirely broken.
And for all the people willing to pay for the tickets, we should confiscate that money? Keep in mind, that may be nearly a 99% tax, which no country in its right mind would be willing to pass. Supply and demand can only be thwarted artificially through suppression, confiscation, and redistribution. Is capitalism broken, or is it a mirror of society itself, which doesn't know what it should value?Alandoril said:
My dad is always saying that because I get paid minimum wage. He always talks about someday when I get a "real" job blah blah blah. My response is always the same. I'm not being paid in monopoly money. If you're earning real money, then you have a real job.
However, if people are saying that because you're job is artistic then that's doubly retarded, would you say Johnny Depp doesn't have a real job? How about Paul McCartney? After all they don't do anything society inherently needs.
However, if people are saying that because you're job is artistic then that's doubly retarded, would you say Johnny Depp doesn't have a real job? How about Paul McCartney? After all they don't do anything society inherently needs.
I never get that shit, as I am still studying. what will happen is that people ask me, with a tone of disgust and superiority in their voice what one can actually 'do' with physics. I tell them that I can do nigh everything, and understand the mysteries of the universe. That shuts them down pretty well, moste of the time.
Then again, neither does the finance or banking industry. Only misuse of the finance and banking industries by both corporations AND the customers. Funny how the customer bit always gets left out when people moan, no accountability nowadays.Jamieson 90 said:
OT - As someone working in a professional service industry, I get paid above average to tell people what to do, to eat fancy meals, and travel a lot. Prior to this role I worked my arse off as a bar manager, physically and mentally. I got paid less than half what I do now, but worked over double the hours. However, my current role has an impact on businesses and the nations economy, and decisions I make can be pretty damn important.
So, which one is "less of a job"? My current one because I don't break myself working and live something of a fancy life, or my last one because ultimately it was less important on a national and global scale?
Not broken, just weird. Pay has nothing to do with the value of the service you provide and everything to do with how replaceable you are. Basically capitalism is all about leverage. It's ugly but the system works.Alandoril said:
Things like the housing collapse of 08 are signs that capitalism is broken.
The "bad credit rating" is more to do with the fact you can't consistently prove that you can pay back within your means, rather than profit making. Some people who massively borrow can have a great credit rating, as can people who borrow very little - the rating isn't dependent on size of debt, or potential profit, but the risk of you taking out a first time loan and never being able to pay it back because you're not used to it (or you already have allocated your monthly renumeration, like salary).Aramis Night said:I would love it if my lack of debt would reflect well on my credit score. But i don't think that passing laws is the answer. It just shows that credit scores are less of an indication of risk and more an indication of potential profit for lending agencies. If you do not have debt and are driven to stay debt free, than any lenders you deal with don't stand to make much money on interest dealing with you and have no incentive to do so.Gilhelmi said:
One solution i would like to see is credit scores being information beyond the reach of any businesses that are not lenders and only with your permission to obtain a loan or credit. Living within your means could in some fields actually cost you promotions because some employers do credit checks.
Oh and don't worry. I'm not offended by the notion of being related to fiscal conservatism. My positions are varied, but i'll admit that fiscal conservatives have a lot of good points. I'll take that as a compliment
A really simple way to boost your credit rating would be to get a minimal charge credit card and spend maybe £10 or so a month on it, paying the debt off immediately so it doesn't accrue any interest. As credit rating systems are mostly automated, this will begin to eventually give you a great rating as a reliable lender. It's easier said than done though, and don't use the credit card for anything more than this - those things are also the easiest way to get a bad credit rating through abuse of the card. It's far too tempting when you are stuck for money or in an awkward situation to use them beyond what you can safely pay back
I get that from a lot of people because i make a life off of j-pop idols and games.
Well, i just think it sucks to be you because I can be a nerd/ geek and make a living where as everyone else has to go to a office in business attire and do stuff they dont even really care for if it were not their job.
Well, i just think it sucks to be you because I can be a nerd/ geek and make a living where as everyone else has to go to a office in business attire and do stuff they dont even really care for if it were not their job.