The 50 Most Boring Opinions In Geek Culture - Part I

[LobsterFeng]

Theoretically, can't any argument still be interesting as long as the person making the argument is interesting?

 

[Frank_Sinatra_]

I'm guessing Bob still hasn't actually played ME3.

Of course he hasn't. As it's been very well documented in the past (he even said it himself) that he says things to get attention. He likes it when people pay attention to him even if he has to say something that annoys people due to his lack of research.

Honestly, the way I deal with the occasional incredibly ignorant things Bob can say, is I ignore him. Best thing to do really.

The point though is that he doesn't have to. That's just a pathetic attempt to smack down criticism. Nobody has to even bother playing Mass Effect to know that the screaming fits were completely unwarranted, and much of the Mass Effect fanbase needed to grow the hell up.

However it is one thing to smack down criticism after having taken time to learn about the grievances and the like. (See here [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/5548-Changing-A-Games-Ending-And-Destroying-Art] on how to properly deal with these situations, and here [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/5525-Mutants-and-Masses] how not to.)

Jim handled it with respect and objectivity. Bob however handled it childishly and used it as a grab for attention.

I think more the irritation with the addition of this grievance to this "Boring Opinons" is Bob dragging this worthless corpse out again without having given it a good, and intellectually honest look for himself just so he can have some more attention. As I stated above.
Best to just ignore it and move on.

(Yes I know I'm giving him attention by proxy since I'm leaving a comment, but I felt I needed to speak out.)

 

[The Lugz]

Quoth the bob:
"28. Fast zombies aren't "real" zombies.

I don't care for fast zombies, but the "real" ones people talk about usually means George Romero's zombies, which of course bear little to no resemblance to the actual cultural traditions from whence the term "zombie" originated.

I'd elaborate on that, but just pointing that out again has officially qualified me for this list."


my conclusion:
zombies are stupid fast or slow it's a classic example of applying logic where it does not belong
i worry about people that do that, it seems to demonstrate a lack of ability to recognize reality and fiction
and those people can become dangerous fanatics

 

[Seagoon]

Wait.. People don't like Adam West's Batman? Oh my God.. I never knew humans had such capacity for evil! How can you NOT love Adam West's Batman?!

 

[Something Amyss]

47. Putting nipples on the bat-suit ruined the Batman movies.

I've seriously never heard this one.

44. You only think [movie/show/game] is good because you saw it when you were a kid.

Annoys me because I seem to be the 1/10. Looking back at the shows I watched, most of them were crap. If I like something, it's probably stood the test of time.

41. Cutscenes ruin videogames and are unnecessary.

But...but...Immersion!

38. Hollywood has run out of original ideas.

The audience, meanwhile, has run out of original complaints.

Considering this same statement has been uttered since at least the 70s, yes.

27. The Transformers movies

Could have stopped there. Just about EVERYTHING about the Transformers movies has been done to death. I get it. they suck. People hate them. Michael Bay sucks. People hate him. Giant robot testicles. Yawn.

 

[Something Amyss]

Also, speed ramping is a tool. It's just the new tool to be overused. I don't hate it. In fact, I think it can be pretty awesome.

41. More like "Because JAPAN likes cutscenes they ruin games" Though no one has the balls to actually just ADMIT they're a bigot

Well, that was random.

Wait.. People don't like Adam West's Batman? Oh my God.. I never knew humans had such capacity for evil! How can you NOT love Adam West's Batman?!

For starters, I'm not human. PERISH, MEATBAGS!

...Errr, ignore that last statement. I am fond of you meatbags.

Yes, and we should stop having discussions about abortion, gun control, and the environment because we've already heard all the arguments for and against, right? Just because you lost interest doesn't mean that the topic isn't deserving of further consideration.

Wait, what? Did you just compare Bat-Nipples to abortion?

Just like no scientist gathers up all the information in their field and says "We've been doing this for a long while, we're through now"

In part because there's actually new data coming in on a fairly regular basis. If science had nothing left to explain or explore in a field, why would it continue? So let's go with your example. Can you think of the last time new insight was offered on the lack of Hollywood originality? Or Bat-Nipples? Or Transformers?

 

[omegawyrm]

Yes, and we should stop having discussions about abortion, gun control, and the environment because we've already heard all the arguments for and against, right? Just because you lost interest doesn't mean that the topic isn't deserving of further consideration.

Just like no scientist gathers up all the information in their field and says "We've been doing this for a long while, we're through now", neither should anyone feel that they need to refrain from voicing legitimate grievances because you've become so lazy and inept you no longer feel like hearing them. You're a mad little despot of a hill made of beans, claiming to be Lord of all things fandom. I did not kneel at your inauguration and I do not heed your foolhardy proclamations now.

You, "Bob", are the disease in all geek culture. The one that rants and raves in a little tantrum of your own twisted whims, and when you are brought to task you sulk because the world does not see you in the prism you've grown in your mind's eye. You're a Batman villain, all frills and fancy words describing the truth of the world as you so clearly see it, all the while your true home is a padded room where they can try to cure you of your delirium.

As much as it hurts me to say it, you're the escapist's front line nerd. They need you in the trenches fighting the good fight, and not sitting on the sideline lamenting how fruitless the argument is. Get off your hill, close down Wikipedia, and get back into the fight. You can rest when the Escapist replaces you with someone competent.

Wow, that was one of the most hilariously over the top ragegasm freakouts I've ever seen.

I have no idea what Bob does different from every other commentator on the internet to attract these sorts of responses so regularly

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

Bob points out which arguments are boring and overdone. Thread descends into said arguments....

sigh

 

[MarsProbe]

This article deserves all the slow claps. My only question is what 25 arguments could you possibly have up your sleeve that are more tired and less interesting than the ones listed here. I suppose I could think of a handful... 'George Lucas needs to leave Star Wars alone'; and 'The plot of 2012 is bullshit', but beyond that I'm struggling.

I don't know if this'll count, but I'd like to see something about the 4th Indiana Jones film in there. Something like "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull didn't happen". It tires me the number I've read people referring to the "Indiana Jones trilogy" in some form because, see, they're being witty by not acknowledging the 4th film. Though that could probably be covered by this point:

44. You only think [movie/show/game] is good because you saw it when you were a kid.

Really, it's just because you watched those first 3 films when you were a kid, or a lot younger than you are now that they seem so much better.

Also: (apologies in advance)

43. Mass Effect 3's ending was bad.

Seriously, folks, at some point we're going to have to accept that every possible variation on this point has been made. Many times. There's no meat left on the bones.

42. Mass Effect 3's ending was good.

See above.

True, but check the Mass Effect Facebook feed - that doesn't stop certain people trying to milk the subject for all it's worth every time a new announcement is made.

 

[SecondPrize]

'About 20 or so arguments you've never heard anyone make before' would be a more appropriate title.

 

[SonicWaffle]

This article deserves all the slow claps. My only question is what 25 arguments could you possibly have up your sleeve that are more tired and less interesting than the ones listed here. I suppose I could think of a handful... 'George Lucas needs to leave Star Wars alone'; and 'The plot of 2012 is bullshit', but beyond that I'm struggling.

From my own experience in bickering about comics;

"Superman is boring because he's too powerful"
"Aquaman is lame because he can only talk to fish"
"Batman is having sex with Robin!"

 

[Trishbot]

I don't know... what qualifies as "boring"?

Because some of these arguments I still LOVE hearing people talk about, and there's usually always some new spin on old arguments that shows up from time to time that shakes up the old tried and true opinions.

 

[PunkRex]

I think most fans of FF9 would agree 41 is some serious baloni.
Im also aware that (on this site especially) saying FF9 is the bestestest FF is kinda over done... even if its true.

Wow... having played FF VII, VIII, and IX I had forgotten how completely terrible segments of IX were. The Queen was a terrible pseudo-villain and I could never get over the fact that the main character had an annoying tail.

I'm sure VII doesn't hold up too well either to scrutiny, but the story elements put into play were amazing. I'm not sure if it's the first game that had you wield a main character as they go through a semi-psychotic episode / identity crisis, but I recall it being interesting and gratifying.

Definatly, FF9 isn't perfect, its just got a hell of alot more variety then the other FF's I played. I was just spouting my love for the cutscenes, which portrayed alot of character with actions such as facial expressions instead of constant dialouge. I remember enjoying 7, even if the doom and gloom got SERIOUSLY grating at times, maybe because it made characters like Cid, Reno and Rude all the more likable.

 

[Sylveria]

I can't help but feel that Movie Bob is being just a little bit...ah...what's the word I'm looking for...judgmental? Yeah kind of. Also Movie Bob, a compliant being "boring" doesn't make it any less valid. I'm not going to shut up after we hit a magical number of times we're allowed to say something before it is deemed boring and generic.

Bob logic: "I'm sick of hearing how horrible The Holocaust was. We should stop talking about."

 

[Azkar Almsivi]

The most annoying "geek" opinion of all:
Criticizing other geek's negative opinions, negatively.

 

[Lionsfan]

The point though is that he doesn't have to. That's just a pathetic attempt to smack down criticism. Nobody has to even bother playing Mass Effect to know that the screaming fits were completely unwarranted, and much of the Mass Effect fanbase needed to grow the hell up.

However it is one thing to smack down criticism after having taken time to learn about the grievances and the like. (See here [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/5548-Changing-A-Games-Ending-And-Destroying-Art] on how to properly deal with these situations, and here [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/5525-Mutants-and-Masses] how not to.)

Jim handled it with respect and objectivity. Bob however handled it childishly and used it as a grab for attention.

I think more the irritation with the addition of this grievance to this "Boring Opinons" is Bob dragging this worthless corpse out again without having given it a good, and intellectually honest look for himself just so he can have some more attention. As I stated above.
Best to just ignore it and move on.

(Yes I know I'm giving him attention by proxy since I'm leaving a comment, but I felt I needed to speak out.)

The thing is though, a fanbase does not get to set the terms for which another person calls them out. Bob was calling out a bunch self-entitled dipshits on their poor behavior. Of course he was childish about it, it was an entirely childish protest, and Bob is one of the few people aware that the problem with the games industry is not publishers or creative stagnation, it's the consumers.

I'm sorry, but any argument/reasoning that boils down to "Thing X sucks/has a problem/is stagnating because of the fans!" is just downright silly. How is it the fans fault?

 

[Grunt_Man11]

Here's something I'm sick of hearing constantly.

"PC's are better than consoles, and you're bad for playing on a console!"

Ugh, I am so sick of this. Okay, we get it! PC's are technologically better than consoles, especially now that the consoles are 6-7 year old tech. However, we're tried of hearing about it. We're tired of being demonized, verbally abused, verbally assaulted, and bullied because we mostly play on a console.

You know there are reasons why we play games primarily on consoles, and it's not the reasons you PC elitists think.
It's not because we're dumb or ignorant.
It's not out of some misguided since of fanaticism.
It most certainly not because we secretly hate video games and are deliberately trying to hold them back.
(Yes. I have been accused, directly and indirectly, of intentionally holding back video games for playing on a console.)

We do it because it's the best option for us economically. The initial cost of buying a "decent" gaming PC is too much for a lot of people. I'm also sick of having to remind people that "only $600" is a lot of money, especially during an economic recession.

So, I guess I'm sorry.
I'm sorry for not being blessed with wealthy parents, and/or a cushy job.
I'm sorry for actually having to watch my expenses.
I'm sorry that when I'm able to afford a single game it's a big deal for me.
I'm sorry I'm not willing to abandon a hobby I greatly enjoy that let's me forget my woes, and maintain my sanity.

No, correction. I'm not sorry for not willing to abandon a hobby I greatly enjoy. If you still think I should then I hope karma kicks your ass making you're fancy gaming PC permanently go blue-screen-of-death on you.

I'm also sorry for commenting on an overdone "boring" topic.

 

[Ryan Hughes]

I suppose I am a pretty interesting nerd, because the only one I have even come close to using is:

#39 M. Night Shayamalan Is egotictical and saboutages his own films.

I actually have called him 'self-indulgent' before, but I have never accused him of ruining his own films.

As far as #41, I have always defended video-game cutscenes. The longest cutscene in Silent Hill 2 was about 5-6 minutes long, and I loved every minute of it. The problem lies with video game writers having -on average- the same level of narrative skill as an inbred aardvark.

 

[redknightalex]

Here's something I'm sick of hearing constantly.

"PC's are better than consoles, and you're bad for playing on a console!"

Ugh, I am so sick of this. Okay, we get it! PC's are technologically better than consoles, especially now that the consoles are 6-7 year old tech. However, we're tried of hearing about it. We're tired of being demonized, verbally abused, verbally assaulted, and bullied because we mostly play on a console.

And I'm pretty sure us PC players, or even those who use both PCs and consoles (as I do), have been getting such hate and trolling for years as you suggest the console players are receiving now. When new consoles come out the cycle will continue and PCs will again be questioned, but for now let PCs have their day, huh? What with Steam and their box I doubt it will last forever.

Or, better yet, let's us all be better gamers and appreciated any gaming console, even mobile devices, for what they are: a way to play games.

 

[Guilherme Zoldan]

Well once again movie bob is being pretentious and judgemental.
This really just sounds like a cheap excuse to dismiss opinions he doesnt like to hear as being boring.