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teebeeohh

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wAriot said:
Exactly. And therefore there is no point for it. Yes, you don't have to aim. No, you won't kill anyone. Why the hell would you use it? Just learn how to properly use a rifle.
the learning curve for hitting moving targets that can just fly off is very steep. you have to consider that there are people who can't aim for shit but still like to play shooters, if you don't give those guys a way that allows them to contribute to the fight they will stop playing before you get they hooked enough that they are willing to learn how to use a rifle properly.
the smart pistol will do just that, it allows you easy and fast grunt farm (assuming your aim is shit and you spend half a mag taking down a grunt) and gets you kills and flying enemies you would never hit on your own. and early on you will get more kills with a smart pistol than you would with a rifle, simply because the pistol does not allow you enemy the time to lift off and fly away at an awkward angle where you have no chance of hitting him. i watched my roommate play who is such a noob and he had a blast just staying alive, killing grunts and the odd camper till he got his titan.

i actually still have that thing in my loudout because until i unlock the lmg the revolver is my weapon of choice anyway and the smart pistol is great for shooting grenades. i am actually fine with the weapon, most people complain about how unfair it is if you killed by someone who snuck up on you from behind but in that situation the same guy would have killed you with a shotgun, burst rifle or pretty much anything anyway.
 

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I feel like I was only killed by the Smart Pistol when I wasn't paying any attention or was attacked from behind. Which then, any other weapon would have done just as well. It's great for framing creeps, and it's a fairy nice weapon for new players. Anyone insisting it's overpowered in a pilot vs pilot scenario probably just needs to work on their own aim a bit.
 

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People claiming the Smart pistol is 'bad' are kind of missing it's strengths.

The Smart Pistol is phenomenal at allowing mobility and fast farming. It's how I pushed out a 95 point round on attrition. By using wall jumps and chain farming my way through players and grunts.

It's fantastic design because it fills the 'crutch' weapon role that most shooters have (that being a weapon which has a low skill floor to use but has a trait which makes it undesirable for skilled players. The Liberty Launcher is the text book definition of this) but also has strengths and weaknesses that allow it to stand on its own as a weapon.
 

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Not being able to skip cutscenes is my biggest gripe with almost any game.

It's what has actually turned me off TellTales games. Sometimes I want to try a different save but I don't want to have to wait through the exact same scene again and again to get it.

If I have no control I need to be able to give myself immediate control.
 

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I haven't played titanfall since beta, but when I played it the smart pistol was really well balanced, it was only effective against the grunts, I made sure I had a manual pistol for when I encountered other pilots.
 

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I haven't played Titanfall, but from what I'm hearing about the Smart Pistol, it sounds like this video could go a long way towards explaining its inclusion in the game:

To the person who's able to see this message because they quoted this comment: you're awesome.[/youtube]

Edit: So, it turns out that the entire thread is full of people saying the exact same thing. Isn't reading fun?
 

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otakon17 said:
The_Darkness said:
So... who's the gritty reboot Iron Man-lookalike supposed to be? Or is that just "Arbitrary Gritty Reboot No. 212"?

Also, the Smart Pistol sounds like a decent weapon for people less used to shooters, since as Matthi205 said, it's less easy to use it against players (what with a lock-on, charge-up time) but works well against the AI grunts. It's a way of letting newer players get a hook into the game without immediately getting wiped out by everyone else. Which is good, isn't it?
Nope, Bomberman for the Xbox 360, I shit you not.



Look at that monstrosity! Did they really think that fans of the game were gonna go for that...thing?

OT: The Smart Pistol from what I've seen of it has limited range and ammunition and has a lock-on time so it's not really a bullshit weapon. However, Seekers from Dark Souls are pretty overpowered from what I've seen.
This is real? Wow...just wow.

The pursuers were damn overpowered although darksouls didn't really seem to be balanced all that well. My admittedly limited experience with pvp was mostly just finding new inventive ways to mess with people and be messed with.

GW2 did the unskippable cut scene thing for no apparent reason recently. Maybe because they didn't want you to miss that Jory and Kas were in a relationship now? I don't know. I would thought if any of the cutscenes would be unskippable it would be the dragon waking up revealing what the main villain for the past season has been doing all this time but no...that one you can skip. It didn't help that the two you can't skip are long, the fight after it is very short and has a achievement for doing a certain thing that is likely to take multiple tries.
 

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You know, I simply do not understand all the hate Shadow the Hedgehog gets, it is an excellent game in just about every way, and the ways it's not are the same ones that 3D Sonic games have had since Adventure (bad camera and controls, which is another way of saying that I'm not an instant expert therefore the game is bad.) It's also one of the most innovate games in the franchise. It has a strong story with multiple branching paths that unlike most games with such is actually different, a much more interesting protagonist with more character development in his first 5 minutes than Sonic has had in his entire existence, great sound and music all around, and fun gameplay. Shadow uses guns? So what? It's not like they haven't had gun wielding protagonists in the series before.
 

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I find I just aim the smart pistol like a regular gun when I'm against pilots, and do the aim lock for grunts. The biggest help it gives me is that it helps me recognize where enemies are by pointing them out. That's my handicap in shooters: it takes me forever to recognize an enemy from the background.
 

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The_Darkness said:
otakon17 said:
The_Darkness said:
So... who's the gritty reboot Iron Man-lookalike supposed to be? Or is that just "Arbitrary Gritty Reboot No. 212"?
Nope, Bomberman for the Xbox 360, I shit you not.

Who THE FUCK thought THAT was a brilliant idea?! I thought I successfully repressed that in my memory, but it just came back! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Look at that monstrosity! Did they really think that fans of the game were gonna go for that...thing?
I... Oh.

Oh.

You have got to be kidding- *Checks* -but you're not...

Who in the world thought that was a good idea? What happened to the pink and blue Bomberman that we know and love?!
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He got sick of that crap and moved to the portables.

I have heard the multiplayer is somewhat fun, at least.
 

Vegosiux

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I am very disappointed. It was a perfect setup, yet nobody ended up being thrown out the window :(

Then again, you'd need someone with a good idea for that I suppose.
 

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otakon17 said:
The_Darkness said:
So... who's the gritty reboot Iron Man-lookalike supposed to be? Or is that just "Arbitrary Gritty Reboot No. 212"?

Also, the Smart Pistol sounds like a decent weapon for people less used to shooters, since as Matthi205 said, it's less easy to use it against players (what with a lock-on, charge-up time) but works well against the AI grunts. It's a way of letting newer players get a hook into the game without immediately getting wiped out by everyone else. Which is good, isn't it?
Nope, Bomberman for the Xbox 360, I shit you not.



Look at that monstrosity! Did they really think that fans of the game were gonna go for that...thing?

OT: The Smart Pistol from what I've seen of it has limited range and ammunition and has a lock-on time so it's not really a bullshit weapon. However, Seekers from Dark Souls are pretty overpowered from what I've seen.
lol yeah its like the retarded love child of Iron Man and Spawn XD
 

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The_Darkness said:
otakon17 said:
The_Darkness said:
So... who's the gritty reboot Iron Man-lookalike supposed to be? Or is that just "Arbitrary Gritty Reboot No. 212"?
Nope, Bomberman for the Xbox 360, I shit you not.


Look at that monstrosity! Did they really think that fans of the game were gonna go for that...thing?
I... Oh.

Oh.

You have got to be kidding- *Checks* -but you're not...

Who in the world thought that was a good idea? What happened to the pink and blue Bomberman that we know and love?!
It get's worse.

SO MUCH WORSE.

1. They included a "First Person mode." Thankfully, they were not dumb enough to put an actual first person mode in a bomberman game, they did put in this really awkward third person mode that allows you to clearly see maybe a fifth of the stage, and will get you killed, a lot.

2. Half the time, you win because the enemy blew themselves up.

3. NO LOCAL MULTI-PLAYER. The only way to play is over Xbox live, and if the servers for this game are still running (let alone if anyone actually is playing it), I will laugh so hard.

4. To win, you have to beat 99 levels. In a row. No saving, no continues, they don't even give you codes. Besides maybe pausing (and having you Xbox over heat) you have to beat the game in ONE sitting.
 

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The smart pistol is pretty awesome actually. It really is a game changer considering how you have to approach different combat situations when you have it equipped.
You know you will be instantly destroyed if you go head to head with another pilot, so instead you have to keep out of sight and try to get the drop on people. If you get a full lock you kill them with one shot, whereas if you miss with another main weapon, you'll probably alert the pilot to your position and risk getting shot up instead. Given the speed of the game, the smart pistol really has its place in the arsenal.
 

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Not G. Ivingname said:
The_Darkness said:
otakon17 said:
The_Darkness said:
So... who's the gritty reboot Iron Man-lookalike supposed to be? Or is that just "Arbitrary Gritty Reboot No. 212"?
Nope, Bomberman for the Xbox 360, I shit you not.


Look at that monstrosity! Did they really think that fans of the game were gonna go for that...thing?
I... Oh.

Oh.

You have got to be kidding- *Checks* -but you're not...

Who in the world thought that was a good idea? What happened to the pink and blue Bomberman that we know and love?!
It get's worse.

SO MUCH WORSE.

1. They included a "First Person mode." Thankfully, they were not dumb enough to put an actual first person mode in a bomberman game, they did put in this really awkward third person mode that allows you to clearly see maybe a fifth of the stage, and will get you killed, a lot.

2. Half the time, you win because the enemy blew themselves up.

3. NO LOCAL MULTI-PLAYER. The only way to play is over Xbox live, and if the servers for this game are still running (let alone if anyone actually is playing it), I will laugh so hard.

4. To win, you have to beat 99 levels. In a row. No saving, no continues, they don't even give you codes. Besides maybe pausing (and having you Xbox over heat) you have to beat the game in ONE sitting.
I keep expecting this is some kind of elaborate joke....
But its too wide spread, and from legitimate sources too. This kind of thing is even beyond anon's usual level of antics.
Fuck...some one actually sat down and convinced someone that this might make money!
I'm not sure which is worse, someone thinking that it would make money, or someone would be sick enough to deceive a fellow human being that this would work.
 

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otakon17 said:
However, Seekers from Dark Souls are pretty overpowered from what I've seen.
Seekers (Or Pursuers as they are called)in Dark Souls isn't unbalanced on the simple reason that it has an insane Intelligance requirement.
All those points that go into that stat are points that aren't going to boosting health, endurance, resistance etc.
That means that any Scorcery-class build that is able to weild Seekers is pretty much a glass canon. Very little points to Endurance means shitty armor that can't absorb any damage what so ever. They can sure dish out some heavy damage with Pursuers but 2-3 hits with pretty much any decent weapon and they are literally dead as useless cheese. If you are on top of that using the TC-Catalyst you only get *ONE* shot with Pursuers which isn't really that difficult to deal with.

Already at lvl 100 a scorcerer class has to spend one third of their entire points to Intelligence which makes them immensly weak. Heck, one backstab and you're done for. And as all things in DS they are items that completely nullify Pursuers. The Spell Stoneplate Ring boosts your magic defense + Crest Shield +5 (which is available early-game) makes pretty much any spell entirely useless and any serious DS invader has those two in their arsenal.


I've spent hundreds of hours with Scorcery builds in DS and for the majority of the time it's not a walk in the park in duels. It serves *AS BEST* as a way to distract gankers leaving one off your back while you gain a few extra seconds.
But overpowered? Hell no.
 

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How exactly do you expect me to 'learn and get good at playing it'? If I go up against experienced players, I am guaranteed to die. Usually very quickly. That doesn't get me any experience whatsoever, and I will stay 'not-good'. 'Get good' is not useful advice, thank-you.

This isn't 'casualizing' the game for an 'inexperienced fanbase'. This is providing them with a way to play that doesn't feel like running into a brick wall over and over and over again until your nose bleeds and you give up on playing the game.
the only way to truly improve your skill is to play against somone who is better thank you. Well that or grind for thousands of hours trying every possible button combination imaginable till you get lucky.

If your game feels like your running into a brick wall over and over again, then have you thought that maybe thats not a game for you?

I was going to also talk about aiming improvements but you are getting it for 360, so using a controler already negates any form of "precise aiming" anyway.

capcha: take wrong turns.
yeah, thats how you learn the map.
 

Vegosiux

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Strazdas said:
the only way to truly improve your skill is to play against somone who is better thank you. Well that or grind for thousands of hours trying every possible button combination imaginable till you get lucky.
I'd say, the best way is to play with someone close to your skill level, maybe slightly better. If they're much less skilled, you're not learning anything from them. If they're much more skilled, you won't even know which train just ran you down, so you won't learn anything from it.
 

Strazdas

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Vegosiux said:
Strazdas said:
the only way to truly improve your skill is to play against somone who is better thank you. Well that or grind for thousands of hours trying every possible button combination imaginable till you get lucky.
I'd say, the best way is to play with someone close to your skill level, maybe slightly better. If they're much less skilled, you're not learning anything from them. If they're much more skilled, you won't even know which train just ran you down, so you won't learn anything from it.
If taken to extremes this is true. however you will rarely meet pros in random servers. most will be just like you, new guys. Unless your playing an old game, where it depends a lot on community. For example in CS 1.6 you will get slaughtered if your new because anyone that still plays that version are good at it and they hate anyone new. On the other hand when i tried COD4 multiplayer for the first time last year i was welcomed with open arms and even enemy team players gave me some tips in chat how to get better.

However as far as new games go your usually with similar skill level and asking for "noob guns because i such" will only lead you to never getting better to begin with. you cant get good with a sniper rifle if you never use a sniper rifle you know.
 

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Oh my god. Are people actually trying to justify an auto-aim pistol in a FPS? What next, people trying to reason that microtransactions in fully-paid game is a good thing? Seriously, we let regenerating health run rampant, extreme linearity, QTEs, unfinished games....sigh....