The Big Picture: Fair Game

[mythgraven]

Well, actually... I agree with a great sopping load of what Bob says. His opinions oddly line up with my opinions.


So am I MovieBob's fanboy?
Or is MovieBob unknowingly mine?

Whiskey Echo!!
Mythgraven

 

[Frankfurter4444]

I guess I never really thought it had a name. I own an Xbox 360 and like the Xbox 360 I own. I also don't own a PlayStation 3 because when I played with other people's PlayStation 3s, I didn't like it enough to justify buying one for myself. I could even go so far as to say the PlayStation 3's interface was one I did not personally like and could criticize what about it I didn't like if I believed my criticism would actually cause it to change. I'm guessing that makes me an Xbox FanBoy. Funny, because I thought it made me a consumer.

I always thought a FanBoy's opinion was to be disregarded because he was so biased in a certain direction that his opinion could not be taken as objective. I'm guessing that's what the troll hopes to accomplish when he calls someone else "A FanBoy." True FanBoy's opinions probably should be ignored because of their inability to be fair, but I guess people who call FanBoys out should probably be met with more skepticism (since I think it is entirely possible I might have something nice to say about the Xbox while still being able to see it for its flaws. Or I might have something nice to say about the PlayStation 3 or Wii even though I have no desire to buy one)

Maybe Ronald Reagan needs to come back to life and govern the internet?

 

[RTR]

5:10
I wish I could frame that.

I think we've all been victim of forum-troll bashing. It sucks.

 

[maninahat]

Any debate in which someone criticises Israeli foreign politics leads to a kneejerk response about how the Palestinians are worse. Any criticism of Palestinians inevitably triggesr someone's condemnation of Israel. You can't ever discuss the problems of one without someone trying to, as Bob says, "add qualifiers" and start harping on about the other.

 

[Lillowh]

Umm, no you're a fanboy if you bash something thats exclusive on another console without ever playing, not bashing the people who have played it. IF you say that they're a fanboy just because they've played it, you obviously have no idea what the meaning of the two words in "fanboy" mean

 

[Rad Party God]

Yay for biased MovieBob fanboyism

I think I'll stay a bit far away when a discussion of PC gaming arises, for every single topic about PC gaming, there always, ALWAYS has to be "that's why pc gaming sucks and I lovez mah Xbox" or "that's why I nevah buy from Steam"... *sigh*

 

[ProzacMan]

I think you got this backwards Bob. Fairness doctrine didn't invade geek culture, political debate tactics invaded geek culture when the Fairness doctrine ended. The "If you like this then by default you hate that" argument is an old tactic used to nudge people on board one party or another. Since you got them liking one of your policies, now you can try and use that to get them to dislike your opponents policies. Though the spillover in to geek culture is more because what use to be intentionally manipulative debate tactics have now been absorbed into the way we Americans naturally communicate with each other. We've been Pavloved into acting this way with Politics, Beer, Cola, and Fast Food for so long that it's only natural that we would automatically start doing it in other areas of our lives.

 

[ReiverCorrupter]

Erm... and opinion is subjective. By definition. If it was objective, it would be a fact. However, opinions can be supported by facts. Saying you like chocolate ice cream is an opinion, and cannot be argued with. Saying chocolate ice cream is THE BEST form of ice cream is a factual claim. I haven't seen the problem Bob is talking about because I think he's confusing peoples factual claims with opinions. If someone says they like Killzone and someone trolls them for liking killzone, then the person need only tell the troll that they are a moron and that person can like or dislike whatever they want.

However, if someone claims that Killzone is BETTER than Halo, for instance, they have just made a factual claim, and must be prepared to defend their positions.

 

[Matthew Wilson]

I actually came across a Lost Planet Fanboy on youtube, the comments on a LP2 Let's Play started with someone saying the crosshair looked like a smiley face. This lead to an argument with this fanboy saying there's nothing wrong with the crosshair and the first guy repeatedly saying he wasn't calling it a bad thing but the fanboy wouldn't listen.
It was actually quite humorous in a pathetic kind of way.

In regards to the topic I guess I'll say I'm a fanboy to Sandbox games so I guess that means I hate level based games which isn't true as I love games like Heavy Rain and CoD just as much as GTA and RDR.

 

[Steve Dark]

What are those two cartoon dudes from? They look really familiar and it's DRIVING ME UP THE WALL.

 

[KP Shadow]

This is why I love The Escapist and The Middle Ground (a forum for a site that hosts several sprite comics and two drawn comics, all but three being sonic-related in some way)

 

[Dectilon]

No Bob, we can't. And once you're done reading through the comments on your own video you'll know why.

 

[Shirokurou]

Hey, Bob never was shy to admit that he's a Nintendo worshiper as the Game OverThinker, so props to him for that.

Also.
Just add "IMHO" to everything you write. Works for me.

 

[MAUSZX]

Finally someone says that.
Is ok to be a fanboy if you are, but liking something doesn't make you a fan and neither a hater of opposite things

 

[Jake0fTrades]

Now that you've called me a fanboy, my loner complex demands that I disagree with you.

There is a danger to extreme opinions. Not everyone can be trusted to remain calm and peaceful when someone disagrees with them over a controversial issue, or over their own opinion. You can look at cases in history in which extreme devotions to concrete beliefs and customs led to conflict and widespread chaotic calamity. (i.g. Nazism, The Crusades, the KKK etc.)

It's better to have a mutual, if uneasy, discretion and timidity against controversy than to have disorder.

(Who am I kidding, I'm most certainly a fan-boy and I agree with you, but I love debates and I challenged myself to defend the opposite position.)

But still, some people are stupid/violent and should keep their opinions to themselves.

 

[The Great JT]

Fanboy and proud of it.

 

[Stillve]

snippity

Whoa bro, you still have that problem? I read the thread you made earlier, how about ignoring them completely? Simple solution.
That ''Halo Fanboy'' subculture type thing is just people expecting others to like what they do just because they're part of this group where it's the norm...hivemind thinking, which we all do a little, but it's the ignorant folks that try to 'convert' everyone they meet, like religion. (ooh touchy subject) :O

Also it isn't pretentious of you to mention conforming to the norm methinks, because the norm is, at times and places, complete bullshit.

 

[Dr Snakeman]

Woot! Now I can say I love the Star Wars prequels without being told that the originals were better.

I know! It's so liberating!

Once again, Bob raises a good point. My only beef? He said "objective opinion", which doesn't exist. If it's your opinion, it is by nature subjective.

 

[roostuf]

Yes i do agree there is a entire army of trolls out there, and i also agree with on the entire one-sided thing, *facepalm*

 

[Matroska Yorgavishk]

ummm a fanboy is someone who's fandom defies logic and is generally an unhealthy thing, and a troll is someone who picks fights on the internet because they can. it has nothing to do with fairness, it's just that fanboys are easy to pick on by trolls.