The Big Picture: Fair Game
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Ah, so true. So true.MovieBob said:
Then again, I was already a Movie Bob Fangirl.
And a Yahtzee fangirl.
And a fangirl of the Loading Ready Run/ENN crew.
Well, that just added "fanboy" to the blacklist of things to say alongside "Cool Story Bro/a", "kid", and so forth.
Funny enough, the first couple of paragraphs from Extra Punctuation [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/extra-punctuation/8560-Extra-Punctuation-On-Multiplayer] reflected on this obsession people have with "fairness".
While "fairness" is something we should strive for, having a thesis does not merit the negative backlash it often receives.
I laughed at the ending
Funny enough, the first couple of paragraphs from Extra Punctuation [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/extra-punctuation/8560-Extra-Punctuation-On-Multiplayer] reflected on this obsession people have with "fairness".
While "fairness" is something we should strive for, having a thesis does not merit the negative backlash it often receives.
I laughed at the ending
Can't say I'd noticed that at all.
What I have seen is that there will always be a person who will attack your opinions as they differ with their own and instead of constructing an argument will simple rely on yelling.
But that's not the same thing.
I actually support the idea that people should consider other sides of the matter prior to reaching a decision. I also support that this should only be self enforced and that it doesn't apply to everything.
If your just stating that you enjoy something you shouldn't need to justify it, that's an opinion.
But if your going to say that one thing is greater than another then you should justify it, as your not stating an opinion, your forming a review.
What I have seen is that there will always be a person who will attack your opinions as they differ with their own and instead of constructing an argument will simple rely on yelling.
But that's not the same thing.
I actually support the idea that people should consider other sides of the matter prior to reaching a decision. I also support that this should only be self enforced and that it doesn't apply to everything.
If your just stating that you enjoy something you shouldn't need to justify it, that's an opinion.
But if your going to say that one thing is greater than another then you should justify it, as your not stating an opinion, your forming a review.
Uhh what "cult classic" even at the best of times wasn't a Box Office failure? I doubt Scott would have done much better if it was up against "The Last Exorcism". If you make a movie for a niche group you are going to attract that niche group (don't forget "nerds" are only the majority on the internet because they are the most vocal). Couple that with a polarizing star (lets face it either you love him or hate him) and you will be lucky to break even. If you make a movie with wider appeal you will attract a wider audience.Delusibeta said:
I've been there many times. I have made it known in several locations that I think J-RPGs are better in every conceivable way than Western RPGs. A lot of people that like games like Fallout took offense to this and used the same old tired argument about how there is freedom in them, even though there's not, about about how you have control over your character, even though they are just manikins, and about how you have freedom over the plot progression, even though that same freedom exists in J-RPGs.
I am pretty sure some of them are going to find this thread and I get to hear these arguments again, including the one where they said that they played Final Fantasy VII, like that means anything to me or this argument.
I am pretty sure some of them are going to find this thread and I get to hear these arguments again, including the one where they said that they played Final Fantasy VII, like that means anything to me or this argument.
How DARE Bob say, "I'm Bob"?! Friggin' fanboy of first names!
Doesn't he realize he has one, maybe two OTHER parts to his name that he didn't even bother to mention?! How completely unfair to those who introduce themselves by their last names or perhaps their whole names!
We need some sort of doctrine to combat this!
Doesn't he realize he has one, maybe two OTHER parts to his name that he didn't even bother to mention?! How completely unfair to those who introduce themselves by their last names or perhaps their whole names!
We need some sort of doctrine to combat this!
I don't know, I think you're taking it a little to far Bob. Just because I say, "I like Gears of War" doesn't mean that some ass hole is going to call me a fan boy.
I definitely agree that too much "fair play" can be a tedious and discussion stopping issue. Places like Screwattack, Escapist, and Gametrailers do the best job of dealing with it issue from my experience. Aside from just ignoring it (the Zero Punctuation approach or the best approach) they simply address it and give their reasoning for stating what they stated.
I think the biggest problem is aggressive antagonistic fanboys take a person's preference and lack of knowledge for destructive rhetoric. If someone ignores a preconceived competitor in a discussion, simply assume they person speaking didn't have time and/or doesn't prefer that specific game. Not every rhetorical voice on the internet has play/seen/read/listened to everything.
If you must strike up a conversation on why that is. Simple! :>
I think the biggest problem is aggressive antagonistic fanboys take a person's preference and lack of knowledge for destructive rhetoric. If someone ignores a preconceived competitor in a discussion, simply assume they person speaking didn't have time and/or doesn't prefer that specific game. Not every rhetorical voice on the internet has play/seen/read/listened to everything.
If you must strike up a conversation on why that is. Simple! :>
am i the only one who isn't actually sure what bob was trying to say here?
is it just that having to walk on eggshells in fear of being called a fanboy or a meaniepants is bad in the long run? cause that's a pretty self-evident truth.
anyway keep up the good work bob, i'm a BIG fanboy.
is it just that having to walk on eggshells in fear of being called a fanboy or a meaniepants is bad in the long run? cause that's a pretty self-evident truth.
anyway keep up the good work bob, i'm a BIG fanboy.
I will gladly be a Big Picture fanboy!
Awesome points, Bob. I can only hope you'll have some effect on the internet as a whole.
Awesome points, Bob. I can only hope you'll have some effect on the internet as a whole.
Every once in a while you find a true fanboy (one that will make fun of everything they dislike and defend the lowest, shittiest aspect of what they like), but most of time it's like what Bob says here. For example, I really like Halo. I am not a Halo fanboy. Someone now wants to comment and tell me that I actually am a Halo fanboy. What the fuck is that shit?
Lawl...
It's funny because it's only kind of accurate.
More so, your only labeled as a fanboy if you praise 1 thing while scorning everything else, not only giving an opinion on one side.
It's funny because it's only kind of accurate.
More so, your only labeled as a fanboy if you praise 1 thing while scorning everything else, not only giving an opinion on one side.
See I must have a different definition of a fanboy, I always thought of it as being those that obsess over a subject or brand to the exclusion of common sense and refusal to see the bad inherent in it.
Kind of like Bob and his opinion of Scott Pilgrim, which is I feel a weak tired story with flashy lights and zero plot of any substantial worth. It's ok for him to call those that watched the Expendables the worst kind of people in the world but not ok to call him out on it?
Kind of like Bob and his opinion of Scott Pilgrim, which is I feel a weak tired story with flashy lights and zero plot of any substantial worth. It's ok for him to call those that watched the Expendables the worst kind of people in the world but not ok to call him out on it?
