I think you forgot Suikoden.Russ Pitts said:The Escapist Staff's Five Faves of 2009: Russ
The Escapist?s Editor-in-Chief, Russ Pitts, shares his favorite games of 2009.
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I think you forgot Suikoden.Russ Pitts said:The Escapist Staff's Five Faves of 2009: Russ
The Escapist?s Editor-in-Chief, Russ Pitts, shares his favorite games of 2009.
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Agreed.Nurb said:ugh...Russ Pitts said:>Modern Warfare 2 getting bad press
>because it's popular
There'll be one new list every day. Keep checking backswaki said:brutal legend would have been so much better if all the songs where unlocked from the beginning so i could have used even more time driving around listening to metal.
also i think theres a problem with the link, i already read russ's list but this time i pressed "The Escapist Staff's Five Faves of 2009" and its still the editor in chief's, hierarchy much ?.
edit:
oh and my lists because i just know how your all dieing to know my top 5s.
and in no particular order i present my AAA top 5;
Dragon Age.
Batman : AA.
Brütal Legend.
Prototype.
L4D2.
and the indie top 5;
Machinarium.
Zeno Clash.
Braid. (pc, i know it came out on xbox live in 08)
Torchlight.
Foreign Legion: Buckets of Blood (the only game here who didn't try something new or had an unique style, but dammit i love it)
also im uncertain where to put flowers vs. zombies, its not an AAA game and its not indie either, but great game, it belongs somewhere.
Sad part is that all of what you said was true, and all of that long rant was 100% true but that merely gouges the surface, there is still alot more wrong with it. And hell I am in some regard an Infinity Ward lover, they made all of these great PC games, and now they go and fuck it up. (I'm an Ex-Infinity Ward lover since they released info on the PC version of MW2)RogueDarkJedi said:le snip
I...uh... just wow. (-1 to the EIC)Russ Pitts said:>Modern Warfare 2 getting bad press
>because it's popular
Agreed. I loved DAO, but frankly the whole game is glitchy, especially the combat, and the side quests get tedious. But, I guess I cant complain after spending 50 hours beating it and still wanting more.veloper said:Seriously? Dragon Age deserves to be on that list, but perfect? Far from it.
I cannot begin to fathom how a gamer could fail the spot the flaws in DAO.
Wahay!Russ Pitts said:It's true! Opinions welcome!Jaranja said:That's correct but Russ did say that we should share our opinions.CantFaketheFunk said:I think you're kind of missing the point of doing a "favorites" list, rather than a "best of."
The icon is from my gamerpic on XBL. I use it because:dududf said:Sad part is that all of what you said was true, and all of that long rant was 100% true but that merely gouges the surface, there is still alot more wrong with it. And hell I am in some regard an Infinity Ward lover, they made all of these great PC games, and now they go and fuck it up. (I'm an Ex-Infinity Ward lover since they released info on the PC version of MW2)RogueDarkJedi said:le snip
At first when I saw you ranting on MW2, and then looked at your Avatar before I read it I sighed and said "Ugh Halo fanboy ranting on CoD what's new" Glad to see it was full of logic and truth
Good to see I was wrong on that part .
The community is lame in all online shooters I've ever played. And I've played a fair few in my small 21 years in this 'verse. FPS games seem to attract the most immature rtards in gaming, unfortunate but that's the way it is.RogueDarkJedi said:Not only that, Modern Warfare 2 is riddled with bugs (which become bannable offenses), balancing issues, matchmaking failures, network hiccups, broken party systems, some really bad maps (I mean, what the crap is Estate? It's just KOTH. It is not a Team Deathmatch appropriate map. If you have the mansion, you've pretty much won) and a not so great community.Cyberjester said:I like your list.
Off topic, a lot of the bad press MW2 gets I think is based partly on how it lacks dedicated servers, making it a pain to play multiplayer on a PC. And we PC gamers can get pretty loud if we don't like something..
Matchmaking games
I remember when Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 first came out, games felt really fair and balanced. However, that might be because everyone had the same weapons and not everyone was using the stupid "I'm a Ninja" class. This complaint has nothing to do with me being "bad" at MW2, I tend to win most of my games with me placing in the top 4 players (mostly).
If you've played this game online, then you'll agree with me on the fact that some non-sniper rifle weapons are waaaaaaaay too powerful and they shouldn't kill you (you being in perfect health) in one body shot from across the map.
Oh, and don't get me started on spawning. I mean, you'd think that QA would have picked up on this but the spawn system is really really bad. You can be spawned right next to an enemy, which wouldn't be too bad if they weren't looking right at you. It's just as bad as the spawn system in Team SWAT (I <3 team swat) in Halo 3.
The community
But that aside, I find that most people you'll get matched up with tend to be the really annoying, flaming racist/sexist/elitist speech spewing jerks. MW2's community is pretty much made up of players like this. Does everyone have to behave like they are some tough hardass gangster? Really? Who are you trying to impress? Your friends? Like they'll care after a day. You look like a dick online and everyone thinks you are an idiot.
I mean, there are people who behave like this in other online games, but you encounter these people in MW2 more frequently than any other game I've played.
Now, I tend to not pay attention to what other people say online (unless it's my friends) but the level of language being thrown at other players is uncalled for. It is way beyond trash talk. This is hate speech going on here. This is a mature game people, let's act mature rather than a 14 year old who just learned a bunch of new swear words.
The frustrating part about the matchmaking system is that the people who tend to be a river of obscenities tend to be on your team, even if you file a review to avoid them (which the game doesn't take into account). Sure you can mute those people, but in this game, you need all the intel you can get and these people travel in packs.
MW2 used to be fun and I really don't want all these problems to ruin the game, but with IW's constant failures and the terrible matchmaking system, it's really hard to prevent these things from ruining the experience.
If you step back and look at the game as a whole, it feels like MW2 is just hype. Infinity Ward got lucky with CoD4: MW, and I think it's because it was something different in the series that no one was expecting. The industry is a gamble, stats have proven that games that are in series sell better than games that are not. But even with series, the idea is to stay true to the form of the other games. CoD4 was something going beyond the tired tradition of the same game over and over again (the Madden syndrome).
And Russ, just because a game is popular doesn't mean it's good.
tl;dr:
CoD: MW2 goes to show you that while you can have a budget that reaches the stars, there's no guarantee that your game won't be Superman 64.
*considers listing flaws, thinks better of it on a oldie gaming fanatic site*veloper said:Back in 1993 there was *nothing* to criticise Doom over.
First: Estate easily becomes a KOTH. Everyone always rushes for the mansion. The reason is because it has easy cover and you can snipe anyone anywhere from it.Cyberjester said:The community is lame in all online shooters I've ever played. And I've played a fair few in my small 21 years in this 'verse. FPS games seem to attract the most immature rtards in gaming, unfortunate but that's the way it is.RogueDarkJedi said:My really long post.
The only game which I've found to be ok is TF2, strangely enough. The worst people I've seen in that was a mod and a griefer. The griefer opened a spawn door and let an enemy spy in, I was playing as pyro and flame as a nervous twitch now sooo... The mod just kicked someone because he wanted their name.
Everyone else has been surprisingly good. L4D was ok, but I've had quite a few TK'ers in that so I prefer TF2.
Estate is not a KOTH map. I go around the side and watch snipers with thermal scopes make the house a death trap. No way am I ever camping that house. =P I play Combat Arms and some of the maps and stories in MW2 look like a direct rip off, but I like those maps so it's all good.
Spawning I'll go with. But spawning sucks in all games. You can camp spawn if it's a static point, if it changes according to a pattern you can mine it, etc, etc. It's one of those elusive features, like a challenging AI.
Rifles, well.. Check out all the perks you get for guns. Stopping Power combined with Steady Aim gives people botting skills. But they still aren't one hit kills unless it's a headshot. And since Steady Aim or the soft aim button (tap L1, then hold) will go for the chest, it isn't game breaking or 1hit wins. If it's a headshot, then all guns will do massive damage or 1 hit kills, same as in all games.
Glitches.. Well, CS:S is generally regarded as the best multiplayer shooter ever in most circles, and that has so many glitches that rules for tournament play involve where you're allowed to look. =P
Yes, it has some issues. No, it isn't that bad. Yes I hate them for taking out dedicated servers, but it's still a fun and popular game on the console. It's also very much like Halo, it's a fun console game that receives a lot of flack for no good reason. I've played it on PC and Xbox and loved it both times, the game was a perfect console game, so more like Serious Sam than Counter Strike, but fun. Second was as good, third was better.
MW/MW2 weren't just hype. They were decent shooters done by a company that makes decent shooters, but this time it wasn't in the cliched and old WWII setting. Everyone wanted a different enemy to hate than Nazi's, they got it and loved it. And still do. Just check out the Shi No Numa maps for WaW. The zombie maps were more popular than the game itself was, just because it hadn't been done in a while, and it was done well.
Oh, and I like Ninja classes. =P
tl;dr
Don't bag out Ninjas, don't bag out games that have the same faults as others with more redeeming features without good reason, don't bag out Ninjas, the Shi No Numa song is awesome, Ninjas are awesome, don't take life too seriously, take Ninjas very seriously.
*considers listing flaws, thinks better of it on a oldie gaming fanatic site*veloper said:Back in 1993 there was *nothing* to criticise Doom over.
Although.. It's like comparing the first mario to the latest one released on the Wii. Anyone who played it way back when, will call the new versions lame and a clone, and the original the best thing to hit gaming. If you've just played it on the Wii, you'll love it and think the old version sucks.
Assassin's Creed 2 isn't that great, sure they improved a good deal of things but it still doesn't address some of the series flaws mainly the pacing is quite slow, entirely too slow.Donrad said:solid list but im surprised assassins creed 2 wasnt in there..
Again, snipers with thermal scopes mean I never go near the house. You'd be surprised at how many good players won't touch the thing. It's much easier to surround the house and kill anyone daring to get in line of sight of a sniper. Inexperienced players will of course rush the house, christmas seemed to get in a fairly large batch. But pro's will still just pick 'em off from outside.RogueDarkJedi said:First: Estate easily becomes a KOTH. Everyone always rushes for the mansion. The reason is because it has easy cover and you can snipe anyone anywhere from it.Cyberjester said:The community is lame in all online shooters I've ever played. And I've played a fair few in my small 21 years in this 'verse. FPS games seem to attract the most immature rtards in gaming, unfortunate but that's the way it is.RogueDarkJedi said:My really long post.
The only game which I've found to be ok is TF2, strangely enough. The worst people I've seen in that was a mod and a griefer. The griefer opened a spawn door and let an enemy spy in, I was playing as pyro and flame as a nervous twitch now sooo... The mod just kicked someone because he wanted their name.
Everyone else has been surprisingly good. L4D was ok, but I've had quite a few TK'ers in that so I prefer TF2.
Estate is not a KOTH map. I go around the side and watch snipers with thermal scopes make the house a death trap. No way am I ever camping that house. =P I play Combat Arms and some of the maps and stories in MW2 look like a direct rip off, but I like those maps so it's all good.
Spawning I'll go with. But spawning sucks in all games. You can camp spawn if it's a static point, if it changes according to a pattern you can mine it, etc, etc. It's one of those elusive features, like a challenging AI.
Rifles, well.. Check out all the perks you get for guns. Stopping Power combined with Steady Aim gives people botting skills. But they still aren't one hit kills unless it's a headshot. And since Steady Aim or the soft aim button (tap L1, then hold) will go for the chest, it isn't game breaking or 1hit wins. If it's a headshot, then all guns will do massive damage or 1 hit kills, same as in all games.
Glitches.. Well, CS:S is generally regarded as the best multiplayer shooter ever in most circles, and that has so many glitches that rules for tournament play involve where you're allowed to look. =P
Yes, it has some issues. No, it isn't that bad. Yes I hate them for taking out dedicated servers, but it's still a fun and popular game on the console. It's also very much like Halo, it's a fun console game that receives a lot of flack for no good reason. I've played it on PC and Xbox and loved it both times, the game was a perfect console game, so more like Serious Sam than Counter Strike, but fun. Second was as good, third was better.
MW/MW2 weren't just hype. They were decent shooters done by a company that makes decent shooters, but this time it wasn't in the cliched and old WWII setting. Everyone wanted a different enemy to hate than Nazi's, they got it and loved it. And still do. Just check out the Shi No Numa maps for WaW. The zombie maps were more popular than the game itself was, just because it hadn't been done in a while, and it was done well.
Oh, and I like Ninja classes. =P
tl;dr
Don't bag out Ninjas, don't bag out games that have the same faults as others with more redeeming features without good reason, don't bag out Ninjas, the Shi No Numa song is awesome, Ninjas are awesome, don't take life too seriously, take Ninjas very seriously.
*considers listing flaws, thinks better of it on a oldie gaming fanatic site*veloper said:Back in 1993 there was *nothing* to criticise Doom over.
Although.. It's like comparing the first mario to the latest one released on the Wii. Anyone who played it way back when, will call the new versions lame and a clone, and the original the best thing to hit gaming. If you've just played it on the Wii, you'll love it and think the old version sucks.
Second: Spawning is pretty bad in MW2. The fact that you can spawn near an enemy is a bit unsettling. And by this I mean, you can spawn near an enemy, so long as a teammate is near by it. If the teammate is taking fire, MW2 doesn't care. It will spawn you right into the gunfight for you to die.
Third: Glitches. Yes, these are a big problem, but do you get banned for performing a glitch in CS:S? I rest my case.
Fourth: "Don't bag out games that have the same faults as others with more redeeming features without good reason" - What the hell? I'm pointing out flaws that should be fixed at this stage. For a game that was advertised with a gigantic budget, tons of development time and all these "improvements", you would think they would take the time to put the damn thing through QA before releasing it. MW2's multiplayer has been riddled with bugs that WOULD HAVE been picked up during QA (and because they weren't, it either means that IW is really bad at programming, IW/Activision's QA is retarded and/or that the game never went through QA).
Fifth: For the player experience, I'm not talking about griefers in this game. I'm talking about the attitudes that most of the players have in MW2. Have you played it on the Xbox? The experience really goes down with all this poor sportsmanlikeship, harassment, bullying and constant hate speech.
Sixth: I said that MW2 was hype, not MW1. MW2 is somewhat good, but it's not at all great as game reviewers are making it out to be.
Seventh: Rifles. Yes I know perks can easily change the damage. But even without such perks, some weapons are WAAAAAAAAY overpowered. Raffikas, for example. On more than one occasion have I been killed by them with only one shot to the body (this was in Wasteland [another map that can become a KOTH map]) when I had full health.
haha he really had it with "If there's anything pretentious about MW2, it's you, for taking it too seriously" or the way he put it in the videoHiphophippo said:This is a solid list. I can get behind this. Especially Modern Warfare 2, which, despite how I feel that the story is pretty silly and very rough around the edges, delivers a great single player playthrough even if it is pretty short.
The house: This might be true on the PS3. On the 360, this is a totally different story.Cyberjester said:Again, snipers with thermal scopes mean I never go near the house. You'd be surprised at how many good players won't touch the thing. It's much easier to surround the house and kill anyone daring to get in line of sight of a sniper. Inexperienced players will of course rush the house, christmas seemed to get in a fairly large batch. But pro's will still just pick 'em off from outside.RogueDarkJedi said:Blady blah, blah blah blah blah honk. BLARRRRRRRGCyberjester said:Blah blah blah blahRogueDarkJedi said:My really long post.
I agreed with spawning, but I don't like spawning in any game so see no point to make that an issue.
Yes you can be banned for glitching in CS: S.
And see above. Yes it has flaws, quite major ones in fact. But it's still one of the better shooters to be released.
Only played it on the PS3, but see above. The community in FPS games is atrocious. Everyone that has a mic on consoles, or a keyboard on the PC seems to be a stereotypical guy. Complete jerks, basically. Kind of ruins my point whenever I try to argue with feminists that have touched shooters.. And I'm talking normal people, griefer was an example of one of the 2 bad people I've come across in TF2 which I said had less rtards than usual. Better convo quality, less swearwords, less trolls, more intelligent people. Or maybe it's just USA army bots..
MW2 is a continuation of MW1. They're both stupidly popular, they both have a vast range of glitches, they both are visually amazing in single player, they both have an extremely large multiplayer community which is more than you can say for most shooters.
Haven't tried that gun, I love the Scar, friends like the M4 or the Scar. You're talking about assault rifles, right? I've never seen a single shot to the body from an assault rifle kill in MW2, unless I've already been shot quite a few times by someone else. They just aren't that powerful, even with stopping power.
Granted, if you make 10th prestige it could be different, I only know people up to 5th/6th prestige. But still..