The Escapist Staff's Five Faves of 2009: Russ

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RogueDarkJedi said:
Cyberjester said:
RogueDarkJedi said:
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My really long post.
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Blady blah, blah blah blah blah honk. BLARRRRRRRG
Again, snipers with thermal scopes mean I never go near the house. You'd be surprised at how many good players won't touch the thing. It's much easier to surround the house and kill anyone daring to get in line of sight of a sniper. Inexperienced players will of course rush the house, christmas seemed to get in a fairly large batch. But pro's will still just pick 'em off from outside.

I agreed with spawning, but I don't like spawning in any game so see no point to make that an issue.

Yes you can be banned for glitching in CS: S.

And see above. Yes it has flaws, quite major ones in fact. But it's still one of the better shooters to be released.

Only played it on the PS3, but see above. The community in FPS games is atrocious. Everyone that has a mic on consoles, or a keyboard on the PC seems to be a stereotypical guy. Complete jerks, basically. Kind of ruins my point whenever I try to argue with feminists that have touched shooters.. And I'm talking normal people, griefer was an example of one of the 2 bad people I've come across in TF2 which I said had less rtards than usual. Better convo quality, less swearwords, less trolls, more intelligent people. Or maybe it's just USA army bots..

MW2 is a continuation of MW1. They're both stupidly popular, they both have a vast range of glitches, they both are visually amazing in single player, they both have an extremely large multiplayer community which is more than you can say for most shooters.

Haven't tried that gun, I love the Scar, friends like the M4 or the Scar. You're talking about assault rifles, right? I've never seen a single shot to the body from an assault rifle kill in MW2, unless I've already been shot quite a few times by someone else. They just aren't that powerful, even with stopping power.

Granted, if you make 10th prestige it could be different, I only know people up to 5th/6th prestige. But still..
The house: This might be true on the PS3. On the 360, this is a totally different story.

Ban glitch: Since when? I've seen it for tempering, as in you change some skins or something. But that's modifying files out of the game. I don't think you can get banned in CS:S for throwing a grenade and then quickly switching to your gun.

PC: I tend to have a great online experience on the PC. Granted, I've only played Valve games online. Almost all my games go extremely smooth. I've seen footage when CS:S had lots of jerks playing, but it was no where as bad as it is on MW2 right now on the 360.

Raffica: It's a submachine gun. Guaranteed kill in less than 3 shots to the body.

On top of this, the leaderboards in MW2 are hacked. It's really easy to fake your prestige level in the Xbox360 game. It's kinda sad, being a console and all you would think you could make the hack not as accessible, but as long as there are memory units and things that can hook into the harddrive, it's never an inhackable device.
You don't get VAC banned for glitching afaik, but you do get server banned. And there isn't that many servers that aren't owned by people who don't like quickswitching.

CS:S good? That has more jerks than any game I've played. Like really.. It's disturbing. There's no-one in that game that I'd be comfortable being around in real life. The best thing about the game is that I can hate them so there's less guilt from killing them repeatedly, or letting them get away then hunting them down. :D

Yea, leaderboards are hacked all across MW2. It's not faked either, the hack means you're actually 10th prestige. Instant ban if you get it wrong, but people still try.

Didn't know about that gun.. When do you unlock it?
 

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Cyberjester said:
RogueDarkJedi said:
Cyberjester said:
RogueDarkJedi said:
Cyberjester said:
RogueDarkJedi said:
My really long post.
Blah blah blah blah
Blady blah, blah blah blah blah honk. BLARRRRRRRG
Blarg honk? Blargy blarg blarg honk?
Honk blarg. Blah blah blah blarg honk, PS3. Honk honk banana phone. BLARRRRRRRRG
You don't get VAC banned for glitching afaik, but you do get server banned. And there isn't that many servers that aren't owned by people who don't like quickswitching.

CS:S good? That has more jerks than any game I've played. Like really.. It's disturbing. There's no-one in that game that I'd be comfortable being around in real life. The best thing about the game is that I can hate them so there's less guilt from killing them repeatedly, or letting them get away then hunting them down. :D

Yea, leaderboards are hacked all across MW2. It's not faked either, the hack means you're actually 10th prestige. Instant ban if you get it wrong, but people still try.

Didn't know about that gun.. When do you unlock it?
Yes, but if you do a glitch in MW2 on the Xbox, you get banned from EVERY Xbox Live game until the ban is over. You pretty much get VAC banned from all games.

Leaderboards: Yeah, you can hack yourself to any prestige you want. You can also see that MW2 uses signed ints to keep track of data.

As for the Raffica, I don't remember when you unlock it (I haven't played for the last 2 days). I believe it's on either level 35, 42 or 53.

BTW, I'm enjoying our conversation here.
 

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RogueDarkJedi said:
Cyberjester said:
RogueDarkJedi said:
Cyberjester said:
RogueDarkJedi said:
Cyberjester said:
RogueDarkJedi said:
My really long post.
Blah blah blah blah
Blady blah, blah blah blah blah honk. BLARRRRRRRG
Blarg honk? Blargy blarg blarg honk?
Honk blarg. Blah blah blah blarg honk, PS3. Honk honk banana phone. BLARRRRRRRRG
You don't get VAC banned for glitching afaik, but you do get server banned. And there isn't that many servers that aren't owned by people who don't like quickswitching.

CS:S good? That has more jerks than any game I've played. Like really.. It's disturbing. There's no-one in that game that I'd be comfortable being around in real life. The best thing about the game is that I can hate them so there's less guilt from killing them repeatedly, or letting them get away then hunting them down. :D

Yea, leaderboards are hacked all across MW2. It's not faked either, the hack means you're actually 10th prestige. Instant ban if you get it wrong, but people still try.

Didn't know about that gun.. When do you unlock it?
Yes, but if you do a glitch in MW2 on the Xbox, you get banned from EVERY Xbox Live game until the ban is over. You pretty much get VAC banned from all games.

Leaderboards: Yeah, you can hack yourself to any prestige you want. You can also see that MW2 uses signed ints to keep track of data.

As for the Raffica, I don't remember when you unlock it (I haven't played for the last 2 days). I believe it's on either level 35, 42 or 53.

BTW, I'm enjoying our conversation here.
Haha, VAC banned is harsh. It's good to get rid of hacker though. Besides, if someone's constantly glitching, then the game is no fun unless you're glitching as well. It's as bad as hacking IMO.

Yea.. I like the leaderboards showing 1405200023503 days total playing time..

Interesting.. I've been playing with the UMP45 or some such, and the most common SMG I see is the P90, cause everyone loves the S.G. gun. Are there differences between the 360 and PS3 versions? PS3 is MP5, UMP45, Vector, P90, possibly one more.. The Raffica could be it, but I don't see anyone using it so it must suck majorly in other areas or just be different on the PS3.
 

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Well, of all on that list, I've only played DAO. I've seen enough of MW2 to know it doesn't belong on my list.

So, as suggested, my top 5 (or 3 rather, because I didn't play much this year and can't think of 2 others to make it a top 5) would go a bit like this. And you can argue, but I have my reasons.

1: The Saboteur
2: Silent Hill: Shattered Memories
3: Dragonage: Origins
 

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Best of 2009?

There Will Be Brawl... not a game but I am still waiting...

...so about that being uploaded...
 

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I've heard a lot of people saying DragonAge: Orgins is the best game this year and I still can't help put feeling a lot think this cause it's still fresh in their memory. It'll never climb to the top of my list I'm afraid, but fearing I'll get in more trouble than I already did I'll keep it to myself^^

Like the lists anyhow, doesn't matter if I agree or not!
Completely agree with this. I play a lot of RPGs, and I have to say I find DAO to be not all that great. Yes, it has good characters. Yes, it's got fairly good combat. Yes, it has a story. But it's not really that good IMHO.

Of course, this is just one list, but I'm disappointed with wealth of A*** titles in it. Where's Torchlight? Trine? PC release of Mirror's Edge (admittedly, it's A***)?

2010's gonna be great, though. ME2 and BS2 in the first 5-6 weeks.
 

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I was unsure about whether to buy dragonage origins...buy youve got me swung. if its as good as you say it is then i guess it worth buying :)
 
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I really, really need to get around to playing Arkham Asylum.
You so do. The best Batman game...ever, I'd say.

There's a few niggles, like how some of the characters are "re-imagined", but overall it's a solid, epic, eye & thumb fest.

Cyberjester said:
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Back in 1993 there was *nothing* to criticise Doom over.
*considers listing flaws, thinks better of it on a oldie gaming fanatic site*
Wise man ;)
 

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I disagree on your pick on modern warfare 2.
Fist of all, it did not live up to all of it's hype and therefore made the game rather bland and boring speaking of bland and boring. That's what the campaign is to me, it fails to impress and the broken online mode is also rather disappointing. Sure it's fun for about an hour a day one time every week but that's it. There is nothing modern about running around with two full sized 120 year old shotguns whom fire 12 gauge shots in each hand. And what's more disappointing is the fact that it's the best weapon in the game. Not the aa12, not the Kriss .45 but the Model 1887.
Sure MW2 was fun at time but, to be honest, it's not worth 55£
 

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I gotta say, I did not care for much of the crap on his list.

Is it just me, or does everyone else just wish it was back in 1998, when Ocarina of Time was getting released and all the legendary favorites were just in development?
 

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It said "Top 5" but I saw 6 video-games.
He cheated. Because he is the editor-in-chief and can do that :p

Anywho, great list, I wanna play them games, but I'd need money for that, and this new DS just swallowed a huge chunk of cash
 

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RogueDarkJedi said:
Cyberjester said:
I like your list.

Off topic, a lot of the bad press MW2 gets I think is based partly on how it lacks dedicated servers, making it a pain to play multiplayer on a PC. And we PC gamers can get pretty loud if we don't like something..
Not only that, Modern Warfare 2 is riddled with bugs (which become bannable offenses), balancing issues, matchmaking failures, network hiccups, broken party systems, some really bad maps (I mean, what the crap is Estate? It's just KOTH. It is not a Team Deathmatch appropriate map. If you have the mansion, you've pretty much won) and a not so great community.

Matchmaking games

I remember when Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 first came out, games felt really fair and balanced. However, that might be because everyone had the same weapons and not everyone was using the stupid "I'm a Ninja" class. This complaint has nothing to do with me being "bad" at MW2, I tend to win most of my games with me placing in the top 4 players (mostly).

If you've played this game online, then you'll agree with me on the fact that some non-sniper rifle weapons are waaaaaaaay too powerful and they shouldn't kill you (you being in perfect health) in one body shot from across the map.

Oh, and don't get me started on spawning. I mean, you'd think that QA would have picked up on this but the spawn system is really really bad. You can be spawned right next to an enemy, which wouldn't be too bad if they weren't looking right at you. It's just as bad as the spawn system in Team SWAT (I <3 team swat) in Halo 3.

The community

But that aside, I find that most people you'll get matched up with tend to be the really annoying, flaming racist/sexist/elitist speech spewing jerks. MW2's community is pretty much made up of players like this. Does everyone have to behave like they are some tough hardass gangster? Really? Who are you trying to impress? Your friends? Like they'll care after a day. You look like a dick online and everyone thinks you are an idiot.

I mean, there are people who behave like this in other online games, but you encounter these people in MW2 more frequently than any other game I've played.

Now, I tend to not pay attention to what other people say online (unless it's my friends) but the level of language being thrown at other players is uncalled for. It is way beyond trash talk. This is hate speech going on here. This is a mature game people, let's act mature rather than a 14 year old who just learned a bunch of new swear words.

The frustrating part about the matchmaking system is that the people who tend to be a river of obscenities tend to be on your team, even if you file a review to avoid them (which the game doesn't take into account). Sure you can mute those people, but in this game, you need all the intel you can get and these people travel in packs.

MW2 used to be fun and I really don't want all these problems to ruin the game, but with IW's constant failures and the terrible matchmaking system, it's really hard to prevent these things from ruining the experience.

If you step back and look at the game as a whole, it feels like MW2 is just hype. Infinity Ward got lucky with CoD4: MW, and I think it's because it was something different in the series that no one was expecting. The industry is a gamble, stats have proven that games that are in series sell better than games that are not. But even with series, the idea is to stay true to the form of the other games. CoD4 was something going beyond the tired tradition of the same game over and over again (the Madden syndrome).

And Russ, just because a game is popular doesn't mean it's good.

tl;dr:

CoD: MW2 goes to show you that while you can have a budget that reaches the stars, there's no guarantee that your game won't be Superman 64.
Did you just tl/dr yourself? I agree, by the way.

In response, though, MW2=Superman 64? REALLY? Hyperbole much?

I know the present cool-kid response to anyone admitting that they actually enjoy MW2 is to say, "You just like it just because it's popular", but isn't it possible that the inverse is true, that it's popular because a lot of people like it? You don't have to like everything the masses do, and I'll agree that you are virtually guaranteed to run into multiple d-bags if you play this game online. For a lot of people, though, it's fun. The hype helps, but it sells because it's fun.
 

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PhiMed said:
RogueDarkJedi said:
Cyberjester said:
I like your list.

Off topic, a lot of the bad press MW2 gets I think is based partly on how it lacks dedicated servers, making it a pain to play multiplayer on a PC. And we PC gamers can get pretty loud if we don't like something..
Not only that, Modern Warfare 2 is riddled with bugs (which become bannable offenses), balancing issues, matchmaking failures, network hiccups, broken party systems, some really bad maps (I mean, what the crap is Estate? It's just KOTH. It is not a Team Deathmatch appropriate map. If you have the mansion, you've pretty much won) and a not so great community.

Matchmaking games

I remember when Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 first came out, games felt really fair and balanced. However, that might be because everyone had the same weapons and not everyone was using the stupid "I'm a Ninja" class. This complaint has nothing to do with me being "bad" at MW2, I tend to win most of my games with me placing in the top 4 players (mostly).

If you've played this game online, then you'll agree with me on the fact that some non-sniper rifle weapons are waaaaaaaay too powerful and they shouldn't kill you (you being in perfect health) in one body shot from across the map.

Oh, and don't get me started on spawning. I mean, you'd think that QA would have picked up on this but the spawn system is really really bad. You can be spawned right next to an enemy, which wouldn't be too bad if they weren't looking right at you. It's just as bad as the spawn system in Team SWAT (I <3 team swat) in Halo 3.

The community

But that aside, I find that most people you'll get matched up with tend to be the really annoying, flaming racist/sexist/elitist speech spewing jerks. MW2's community is pretty much made up of players like this. Does everyone have to behave like they are some tough hardass gangster? Really? Who are you trying to impress? Your friends? Like they'll care after a day. You look like a dick online and everyone thinks you are an idiot.

I mean, there are people who behave like this in other online games, but you encounter these people in MW2 more frequently than any other game I've played.

Now, I tend to not pay attention to what other people say online (unless it's my friends) but the level of language being thrown at other players is uncalled for. It is way beyond trash talk. This is hate speech going on here. This is a mature game people, let's act mature rather than a 14 year old who just learned a bunch of new swear words.

The frustrating part about the matchmaking system is that the people who tend to be a river of obscenities tend to be on your team, even if you file a review to avoid them (which the game doesn't take into account). Sure you can mute those people, but in this game, you need all the intel you can get and these people travel in packs.

MW2 used to be fun and I really don't want all these problems to ruin the game, but with IW's constant failures and the terrible matchmaking system, it's really hard to prevent these things from ruining the experience.

If you step back and look at the game as a whole, it feels like MW2 is just hype. Infinity Ward got lucky with CoD4: MW, and I think it's because it was something different in the series that no one was expecting. The industry is a gamble, stats have proven that games that are in series sell better than games that are not. But even with series, the idea is to stay true to the form of the other games. CoD4 was something going beyond the tired tradition of the same game over and over again (the Madden syndrome).

And Russ, just because a game is popular doesn't mean it's good.

tl;dr:

CoD: MW2 goes to show you that while you can have a budget that reaches the stars, there's no guarantee that your game won't be Superman 64.
Did you just tl/dr yourself? I agree, by the way.

In response, though, MW2=Superman 64? REALLY? Hyperbole much?

I know the present cool-kid response to anyone admitting that they actually enjoy MW2 is to say, "You just like it just because it's popular", but isn't it possible that the inverse is true, that it's popular because a lot of people like it? You don't have to like everything the masses do, and I'll agree that you are virtually guaranteed to run into multiple d-bags if you play this game online. For a lot of people, though, it's fun. The hype helps, but it sells because it's fun.
Yes, I did. I thought it would be easier to read that way.

As for the reason why it's popular, fun is always a factor, but so is hype.

After I wrote that line, I thought someone could interpret it to mean that I think that MW2 is like Superman 64. But explaining it any other way would be too long. what I'm saying is: even if you (a development studio) have a really high budget, there is no guarantee that your game mean your game will be the best thing on the planet.

IW/Activision made it well known that this game had an unlimited budget, with several sites declaring that the game will be the best game EVAR because of such a high budget. That's totally not the case. It seems that with IW's big budget and extreme sales of the first game, IW was able to cut some corners, expecting that the game will still receive high praise. The more money that was gone into production of something, the higher the assumption is that the game will be good.

Past the backstory, the line basically says that money does not guarantee quality. You still have to work hard and build something fairly strong. None of this cut corners business.

I feel that IW thought the opposite (of my previous statement about money and quality) during development of MW2. I assume this because of the fact they sent press releases advertising just around MW2 having a huge budget.

I hope that makes sense now.
 

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Sorry I didn't edit my really long last post to include more really long replies. I'm sure it would probably stretch the page if I did.

slipknot4 said:
There is nothing modern about running around with two full sized 120 year old shotguns whom fire 12 gauge shots in each hand. And what's more disappointing is the fact that it's the best weapon in the game. Not the aa12, not the Kriss .45 but the Model 1887.
I remember seeing an episode of Mythbusters where they confirmed that the older weapons were more deadly because their projectiles ricochet inside your body or something weird like that.

I have a feeling the only reason why they are in the game is because of Terminator 1.

And also:

Cyberjester said:
RogueDarkJedi said:
Cyberjester said:
RogueDarkJedi said:
Cyberjester said:
RogueDarkJedi said:
Cyberjester said:
RogueDarkJedi said:
My really long post.
Blah blah blah blah
Blady blah, blah blah blah blah honk. BLARRRRRRRG
Blarg honk? Blargy blarg blarg honk?
Honk blarg. Blah blah blah blarg honk, PS3. Honk honk banana phone. BLARRRRRRRRG
Blargy Blarg blarg honk, VAC blarg blarg PS3 blarg blarg guns? Honk.
Honk blah Rafficas blarg blarg blarg bad weapon balancing honk. BLARRRRRRG.
Haha, VAC banned is harsh. It's good to get rid of hacker though. Besides, if someone's constantly glitching, then the game is no fun unless you're glitching as well. It's as bad as hacking IMO.

Yea.. I like the leaderboards showing 1405200023503 days total playing time..

Interesting.. I've been playing with the UMP45 or some such, and the most common SMG I see is the P90, cause everyone loves the S.G. gun. Are there differences between the 360 and PS3 versions? PS3 is MP5, UMP45, Vector, P90, possibly one more.. The Raffica could be it, but I don't see anyone using it so it must suck majorly in other areas or just be different on the PS3.
On the Xbox 360, people only use the cheapest guns possible, really. Anything that will guarantee an easy kill, it's used. It's pretty much become a war for who can get the fastest and most kills in a game. It's not about fun, it's about winning at this point. I'm almost wondering if this has to do with Killstreak rewards.

I looked up the Raffica's stats. It unlocks at level 38 and has an extremely high damage ratio. And I quote from the MW2 wiki: "The M93 Raffica can also be one of the easiest machine pistols to rank up, with its high accuracy and nearly 1 burst kill every time."

Most people don't use SG weapons on the XBox 360 except for the MP5K (RARELY). If you were killed by a secondary weapon, it was most likely a Ranger, G18s, Rafficas, a tactical knife (gun doesn't matter, they just use the knife) or it was the horrible Models 1882 (which apparently now have another glitch tied to them that doubles their range and increases their firepower slightly [woohoo :| ]).
 

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RogueDarkJedi said:
Sorry I didn't edit my really long last post to include more really long replies. I'm sure it would probably stretch the page if I did.

slipknot4 said:
There is nothing modern about running around with two full sized 120 year old shotguns whom fire 12 gauge shots in each hand. And what's more disappointing is the fact that it's the best weapon in the game. Not the aa12, not the Kriss .45 but the Model 1887.
I remember seeing an episode of Mythbusters where they confirmed that the older weapons were more deadly because their projectiles ricochet inside your body or something weird like that.

I have a feeling the only reason why they are in the game is because of Terminator 1.
Didn't they say something about the fact that you would for sure break your arm or shoulder if you fired one in the wrong way, with two hands.
There is no way in hell you could fire two of them at the same time.
 

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I'm not surprised with Dragon Age: Origins being put up the top. It was my favourite game this year next I think we'll see Mass Effect 2 taking most GOTYs and such for 2010.

I have found this year to be a bit disappointing though. I bought two games that were released this year (MW2 and DA:O) while I bought a ton that came out last year or in 2007. There just hasn't really been anything to interest me this year. 2010 looks to be a step up with Golden Sun DS, Halo: Reach and Treyarch's offering to the CoD franchise (I don't care much for their previous offerings but Cold War/Vietnam sounds really good). There are also other games that look good but are shrouded in the mists of absent marketing like Metro 2033, Alan Wake and Still Alive (could be wrong with the names) but I'm not sure if these are coming out. I've also heard Blizzard are working on some games, or something, and Valve might get around to Episode 3 in time for the holidays. One can only hope.
 

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slipknot4 said:
RogueDarkJedi said:
Sorry I didn't edit my really long last post to include more really long replies. I'm sure it would probably stretch the page if I did.

slipknot4 said:
There is nothing modern about running around with two full sized 120 year old shotguns whom fire 12 gauge shots in each hand. And what's more disappointing is the fact that it's the best weapon in the game. Not the aa12, not the Kriss .45 but the Model 1887.
I remember seeing an episode of Mythbusters where they confirmed that the older weapons were more deadly because their projectiles ricochet inside your body or something weird like that.

I have a feeling the only reason why they are in the game is because of Terminator 1.
Didn't they say something about the fact that you would for sure break your arm or shoulder if you fired one in the wrong way, with two hands.
There is no way in hell you could fire two of them at the same time.
Looked it up, I couldn't find anything that says that the Models had to be fired an exact way. And it would make sense logically, I mean it was used A TON in old western films. I would hope that it would be somewhat safe for an actor to carry around without getting shot.

As for carrying two, no, there is no way you could manage both at the same time.