Lunar Templar said:
there are games out there, MMO's that do have this problem licked ya know like EQ2, which, i don't play cause the combat sucks (and SoE screwed me on a purchase but that's a whole other thing) and really, i have to be having fun before i care about how my character looks.
I totally understand putting gameplay first, I just find it saddening that I am increasingly losing my ability to see past this stuff
The minute I see jiggle physics being touted as a major selling point I lose all interest, no matter how good the game might be.
o.0? your gender? *checks profile* oh .... same page now (makes more sense having the complaining coming from an actual female) though I'm not sure what solution to give, a side hoping for a happy medium between sexy and functional.
Haha yeah, I am indeed a woman
Ah, I *really* don't want to pull the "you don't get it because you have a PENIS" card but... yeah, I guess it hits a bit closer to home when it's your gender being presented like this (sorry!) Like I said in my original post, it's not just the characters that bug me, it's the comments on videos (either of gameplay or of female games journalists) along the lines of "BOOBIEZ!!!1!11 ZOMG I WANT TO TOUCH YOUR TITS." So I probably tend to conflate the two, which may not be helpful. Though I don't think it's too much of a leap to connect the two a lot of the time...
And actually, it's kind of interesting that you automatically assumed I was a guy (not having a go, just making a point). There are A LOT more female gamers out there than people realise, many hidden behind male avatars and forum profiles and staying well clear of voice chat (honestly, try using voice chat in any popular FPS as a woman. You would not believe the abuse you tend to get. Again, not trying to demonise men here, it's the vocal minority and all that, but it leads to women hiding themselves).
i like the general design of sets like Chiulin, that balance of form and function, i mean yeah it's sorta sexy but it still looks like it'd do the job of protecting the person in it (better the Karoks version, he's just got two leather straps covering his chest)
there's always going to be games like WoW or Tera where armor's held on with a bit of string and wishful thinking, but there's also going to be games where it's handled better, just a matter of looking
Absolutely there are some decent games for this out there, and I'm totally down with sexy as an option for both genders when it's appropriate. I mean, it would make total sense for male and female Blood Elves in WoW to shmex themselves up, for example. Like I said, and as Shamus said, the key element is choice. Also I happen to love WoW
it's cool, a lot of people make that mistake about vin, they see the shield and plate and think 'tank' until they figure out there's like zero agro control in that game (where i have seen bosses stomp a cross a room, ignoring the person whaling on them just to pop some one trying to down a potion, it sucks as much as it is funny XD) i hear you on the heavy hitters though
there a few joys greater then wading into a mob and clearing a room with nothing shy of upper to top tier enemy's capable of slowing you down let alone stopping you. i call them bulldozers though, seems fitting
I'm not familiar with vin at all, so my bad. But YAY for tank love
but yeah, i do kinda hear you, there's suspension of disbelief and then there's 'wtf is this ...' my problem though is generally not the armor, but character model size. like when i wanna build a tank and i have to do it with a super model :/ some times, i wanna roll a female that's the size of a house cause i want her to look the part of a tank, armored or not(like the female Barbarian in D3, she's fucking HUGE o.o;
and yes, i am one of those guys that rolls female character pretty much exclusively so i encounter this alot
Totally agree, character models are a major problem, perhaps more so than the outfits. Something that bugs me in particular is the lack of variety (again, it all comes down to choice). While still limited in many cases, there does tend to be a lot more variation in male body types in games (compare males and females here: http://en.playpw.com/heroes.html )I can totally understand some people wanting to play as a supermodel lookalike, but I'd prefer my characters to look like they can handle the weapons they're supposed to be using. My personal preference would be for powerful, muscular females who looked more like elite athletes than models.