Pretty much everything I would've said has already been mentioned regarding who was right/wrong. I was discussing this game a lot with friends and other forums, and I ended up just repeating a lot of interesting points here. Really had a lot of fun reading everyone's responses though, as I have with a lot of other responses with games like Bioshock Infinite.
I honestly don't know if I was ok with the decision. I was sitting around afterwards trying to think about it. As mentioned, this is a really bleak, open-ended ending. I'm sure Joel wasn't 100% ok with how it turned out either, but the difference is that regardless whether it was "ok" or not, it was the right one to him (and it was totally in character). Since this game is all about Joel , I can accept that. Glad this didn't end up as some random, shoveled in moral choice for dual endings. But still, even after nearly a week of completing it, I'm STILL not sure what I would've done. I know most people here say that Joel was justified, but at least can acknowledge that it's a shitty situation no matter what.
As a kid (I'm talking about the late 90s) I've always been more attached to Insomniac than Naughty Dog. More love for Spyro than Crash, Ratchet than Jak, and...er...Ratchet than Uncharted (well, I prefer Uncharted over Resistance). Insomniac had the better story and gameplay, while Naughty Dog was always absolutely stellar in colour and animation (look at Daxter move when Jak moves, especially when he spins. LOOK!) The first half of this generation has been pretty much the same affiliation, but then starting after All 4 One came out and Insomniac continuing to not want my money, I've been looking more fondly at Naughty Dog and is the reason why I bought this game full price on release day. And damn it, I'm impressed. I guess gameplay is the weakest part of the game, but only because it's good/functional while the rest is fantastic. Throughout playing their games, Naughty Dog has never really wowed me for writing (outside of entertaining banter and one-liners like in the Jak and Uncharted games), but this shows me what they're capable of. I actually doubted them weeks before I bought this game ("Well, I'm sure this is going to be just like The Walking Dead meets Uncharted but none of the former's gripping story") and I love being wrong in cases like this. Job well done, you Naughty Dogs. Well done.
But I will never forget how shitty Jak 3's story was.
Never.
I guess another question would be if you're able to spare the two nurses. I tried to press buttons near Ellie after I killed the doctor, but nothing happened. Worked after I killed the nurses. Is that how you're supposed to play or am I just a horrible person? D:
I honestly don't know if I was ok with the decision. I was sitting around afterwards trying to think about it. As mentioned, this is a really bleak, open-ended ending. I'm sure Joel wasn't 100% ok with how it turned out either, but the difference is that regardless whether it was "ok" or not, it was the right one to him (and it was totally in character). Since this game is all about Joel , I can accept that. Glad this didn't end up as some random, shoveled in moral choice for dual endings. But still, even after nearly a week of completing it, I'm STILL not sure what I would've done. I know most people here say that Joel was justified, but at least can acknowledge that it's a shitty situation no matter what.
As a kid (I'm talking about the late 90s) I've always been more attached to Insomniac than Naughty Dog. More love for Spyro than Crash, Ratchet than Jak, and...er...Ratchet than Uncharted (well, I prefer Uncharted over Resistance). Insomniac had the better story and gameplay, while Naughty Dog was always absolutely stellar in colour and animation (look at Daxter move when Jak moves, especially when he spins. LOOK!) The first half of this generation has been pretty much the same affiliation, but then starting after All 4 One came out and Insomniac continuing to not want my money, I've been looking more fondly at Naughty Dog and is the reason why I bought this game full price on release day. And damn it, I'm impressed. I guess gameplay is the weakest part of the game, but only because it's good/functional while the rest is fantastic. Throughout playing their games, Naughty Dog has never really wowed me for writing (outside of entertaining banter and one-liners like in the Jak and Uncharted games), but this shows me what they're capable of. I actually doubted them weeks before I bought this game ("Well, I'm sure this is going to be just like The Walking Dead meets Uncharted but none of the former's gripping story") and I love being wrong in cases like this. Job well done, you Naughty Dogs. Well done.
But I will never forget how shitty Jak 3's story was.
Never.
I actually felt something similar. I was faced with the doctor and nurses and I didn't know what to do. I tried to trigger something with Ellie and it didn't work. Pulled out my gun, and they stayed. Shot the air and ground with a pistol to scare them off, but nope. I had a bit of that "sack of shit" realization too. I also tried to shoot them in their feet, but they died (and reacted as if I shot them in the head or chest). It would've been hilarious if this situation wasn't so emotionally tense.Brown Cap said:When I got the the operation room, I actually tried for six minutes to just leave. As if I had a choice, I just wanted to walk away. But the doctor wouldn't move, and no door would open...
I'm thinking - Joel, you selfish sack of shit...
I guess another question would be if you're able to spare the two nurses. I tried to press buttons near Ellie after I killed the doctor, but nothing happened. Worked after I killed the nurses. Is that how you're supposed to play or am I just a horrible person? D: