Every single "stage" if you want to call it that, (it's really not a stage, just a point in time) is a "missing link" There is no "this turns into this", it's a constant change due to selection pressure.Delsana said:
The misinterpretation of evolution
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Sort of, but it's both because easy answers/slogans win, and he who shouts loudest is considered right.Flac00 said:
It's also, in part, because creationists have phrased it as though evolution is nothing more than an attack on God.
Wouldn't had worded it as strong, but indeed.enzilewulf said:
"That's right, around 50% of the population of the United States does not believe in evolution, and that is sad"
Who put you on such a high horse? You know what? Your saying its sad that people don't believe in what you do, and that is sad. Seriously most people don't give a shit about Human evolution so deal with it. Why do people who strongly believe in Evolution have to be such dick heads? Sorry we can't all be like you.
I just say "I was made by my mom and dad. Now what's for dinner? I'm starving." and so just leave the subject at that, and make something productive instead.
In the sense that you can believe in it, yes it is. In the sense that it matters and requires your faith, no it isn't. What I'm saying is it's not the same belief as religion.Levski7 said:
Well, my only big problem is that it is no coincidence that those same people who don't believe in Evolution also don't believe in more "pressing" matters. Global Climate Change, expanding into space, ect. Thats not coincidence. It is not only a pattern, but a disease of ignorance. When I said culture, I meant it. It is not everyone, but many people in certain communities refuse to accept any modern advancements. Evolution is just the tip of the very deep and twisted iceberg.NotAwesomeAtAll said:
Well actually I'm pretty sure that research into the human genome and evolution gives us further understanding in DNA and microbiology, which allows us to perform genetic engineering much more efficiently than our ancestors thousands of years could have.Alexlion said:
And even if some of it is a waste of time, it's what they want to do. *shrugs*
Most people who believe in evolution are not trying to prove Christianity wrong. Unless you are taking literally every word of the bible as literal truth, they are not mutually exclusive. One is the how, the other is the why.Delsana said:
If I live in a hot climate after living in a cold climate I do not EVOLVE when I become used to it, I have adapted using the equipment I am given, my breathing is moderated slower, my body gives off more heat, my heat index will raise, my skin will become slightly thicker based on sun exposure...
These are adaptations enabled by essentially "cheat codes" which are only unlocked when we come into a situation that requires it.
Now if I grow a third leg I have mutated and if that mutation continues and follows the chain of events that are DNA sets (as the past events can all be logged and thus we can see our future with enough analysis (A LOT OF ANALYSIS)) then that is EVOLUTION, or selective mutation based on environmental damage, corruption, or causes that may follow only my line, which would be considered a mutation, not evolution.
These are adaptations enabled by essentially "cheat codes" which are only unlocked when we come into a situation that requires it.
Now if I grow a third leg I have mutated and if that mutation continues and follows the chain of events that are DNA sets (as the past events can all be logged and thus we can see our future with enough analysis (A LOT OF ANALYSIS)) then that is EVOLUTION, or selective mutation based on environmental damage, corruption, or causes that may follow only my line, which would be considered a mutation, not evolution.
Lol. I mean for us to exist.Levski7 said:
Yes, its all scientifically explainable.
But that doesnt make it anyless random. What are the chances we, HUMANS sit here to day?
The chances of life existing on a planet alone are so astronomical its not even worth knowing.
Its not that it all happened. Its that it all happened perfectly, for us to exist. If the planet were 10 degrees hotter when the protoplasmic creatures were first forming, we might not even exist. The evolution of them could be so radically different we wouldnt even resemble humans.
The "coincidence" of it all happening one after another after another for billions of years is what makes it so..... unbelievable. That everything is happened the way it should for us to be here now.
In the bible it says (and I didn't write that statement so either you extrapolated or someone else did) that the universe is a reflection of his beauty and glory.Deshara said:
Essentially an artist doesn't just paint one thing, but not everything in the picture has to be the top focus.
I think that it is fair to say that you seem to need to brush up on some things first before you go crying wolf on other people. Also, it is fair that if one idea is taught in the classroom, then another idea must be taught as well. People need to see all of the choices, and then decide for themselves what they want to believe is true. There is no reasone why Creationism nor evolution can be taught simulataneously.[/quote]
The class in which evolution is taught is known as Science. Creationism is not science, and neither is ID. Therefore evolution and creationism should not be taught simultaneously. Creationism and ID can be taught in the religion class, though.
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That comic is pure genius. perfect illustration of how a picture can say more then a thousand words. Thank you for that.
The class in which evolution is taught is known as Science. Creationism is not science, and neither is ID. Therefore evolution and creationism should not be taught simultaneously. Creationism and ID can be taught in the religion class, though.
That comic is pure genius. perfect illustration of how a picture can say more then a thousand words. Thank you for that.
If a species becomes immune to a disease, then yes that means we have evolved because they have genetic differences that make them much less susceptible to the disease.Delsana said:
If we develop antibodies that make us immune to the disease, then yes that is adaptation.
Incorrect, every scientist has admitted that the missing link is the focus and that one definitely exists... we can track back our DNA and genome through analysis (which we haven't perfected based on processing power) but we can not find how we came from primeapes or anything else on this planet... because the missing link is not there...Abengoshis said:
But no scientist will agree a missing link doesn't exist... DNA IS THE CHAIN and every chain binds to another that causes a link.
Here is a hypotheticalenzilewulf said:
"That's right, around 50% of the population of the United States does not believe in evolution, and that is sad"
Who put you on such a high horse? You know what? Your saying its sad that people don't believe in what you do, and that is sad. Seriously most people don't give a shit about Human evolution so deal with it. Why do people who strongly believe in Evolution have to be such dick heads? Sorry we can't all be like you.
Let me put it to you this way i start denying world war 1 or 2 happened, you can prove me wrong and you may well try but i believe your lying and your evidence is falsified how can you make my change my mind, simple answer is you cant.
I do not care if you believe in god or not but evolution happened by gods hand or not, denying it and the evidence though isn't sensible or rational we have to accept the reality of our world around us so we can better our understanding of it and progress science medicine etc. Most people who try to teach you evolution arnt trying to upset you they are trying to teach the truth. Trust me learning the truth about the world does not tarnish its beauty.
This thread is a perfect example of why I have a hard time believing in evolution- most of you can't even agree on what we're supposed to believe!
I was raised as a Christian and still believe all that stuff but I've seen more and more evidence that points to evolution being something that may have happened. One thing I've never understood is why people don't believe God could have guided evolution; or at least played a part in it.
I was raised as a Christian and still believe all that stuff but I've seen more and more evidence that points to evolution being something that may have happened. One thing I've never understood is why people don't believe God could have guided evolution; or at least played a part in it.
Incorrect, we have no genetic differences, we merely have new information that our body retains in an index or archive or diseases and essentially protects us against.cdstephens said:
We get a new instruction manual, we have "learned", "experienced", or "adapted".
We have not evolved, and I don't know any scientist who would agree that your statement would be defined as evolution.
To everyone who doesn't know what he's talking about:Delsana said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve
tl;dr: Every woman has DNA in her mitochondria which was passed on from her mother. By comparing the mitochondrial DNA with that of other living women, scientists have reached the conclusion that an African H. sapien woman is the ancestor of every woman currently alive on earth.. Her contemporaries reproduced, mind, but none of their lineages have survived "unbroken".
If any of you are interested in how this was done, this is a very informative Wiki page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogical_DNA_test
Look at the mtDNA section.
& Back on topic, please explain exactly the "link" you say is missing. What would you accept as proof? What is the link we're looking for? Fossil evidence? The name and address of the lady? What do you want from us?
