The sarcasm/BDSM discussion thread!

[Mr_Spanky]

I really want to know.

I really want proof that I "hate men" ;D

Explain to me why you feel men shouldn't have any power. This is the exact thing that women have fought to end for themselves and you wish to take humanity back but just reversing the roles.

Why?

I don't think you are a feminist at all. No, you are not a feminist.

"Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, and social rights for women."

If you got your wish men and women would not be equal. Please, don't ever call yourself a feminist ever again.

Still waiting for an admission of error on your part or proof of your statement. You made a claim regarding myself at the start of the conversation. Once one of those occurs, I'll answer any question you have

Ok since I havent been involved with the rest of this conversation so theres no "history" can you tell ME why you dislike men having power? Its a curious line to take that you make a statement and then repeatedly refuse to defend it.

But since im asking nicely could you please tell me?

Since you asked nicely ;P

I've simply been abused too many times by men to want to allow them to have any more power over me. Like a child bitten by a dog, I guess. I let my current boyfriend have a little control in some ways--gently pushing my boundaries with me so I can work through my issues--but as a general rule, I like it to be all me, zero him. He's pretty much the most amazing person I've met and he totally gets it. So all is well!

The confusion perhaps arises when you say that men shouldnt have power and leave it there. Im pretty sure that on the power corrupting and absolute power corrupting absolutely basis men and women are equally corruptable.

But in the context of you dont want any man to have power over YOU personally then that makes total sense.

 

[Geo Da Sponge]

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Okay, okay, I hate to be the one who sits here and then casts down my judgement from my high-horse (I know Matthew94 has called me out on it before), but I think we just need a bit of clarification here. I think what Boudica originally meant was that she doesn't want men to have any power... Over her and/or in the bedroom. Which I think we can agree is a bit fairer, although that clarification is all important. Anyway, that's the impression I'm getting, which makes this all one hi-larious misunderstanding. At least I hope it is.

Am I right in saying that's what you originally meant, Boudica?

You are correct, but more importantly--what is your name from? I'm intrigued!

What's it from? Well, at risk of going off topic it's not really from anywhere. It's just the first three letters of my name followed by "Da Sponge". The three letter name part came from having to type it into arcade highscore tables, and the fact that it was back around 2000 when making your name sound like Neo was totally cool and original.

Where did the Da Sponge part come from...? No idea either, just a mad old friend who would talk about some character called Bobby Da Sponge, who seemed to exist only in his imagination.

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Actually, the quote was:

I like the fem-dom kind of BDSM roleplay, personally. I don't like the male dominant version because I dislike men having any power. My current boyfriend enjoys it, so I've little reason to care about changing lol.

50 Shades of Grey had BDSM in it to the same degree that A Serbian Film has sex in it--i.e. it's all wrong. The book itself is creepy, but not sexist.

So yeah, you can take something out of context to make it suit your position, that's not enough to support your assertion that what she expressly said was "Men shouldn't have any power in any aspect of our world ever."

If it was so simple then why did she fuck about for so long then ignore me. Notice how after I said I couldn't prove she didn't hate men, she refused to reply to me even thoughshe said she would (which makes her a liar).

Why not just elaborate from the outset, why fuck around for so long?

Also, people think it's ok for her to judge all men based on her having a few bad experiences? Talk about double standards ahoy!

Again, at the risk of turning this thread into pure drama it's not a good idea to yell at someone for not responding to your schedule.

Oh, and what double standard? Show me where someone has said that if a guy has been the victim of an abusive relationship with a woman it's their fault for feeling distrustful towards giving women power over them. There's a bit of a difference between saying that someone thinks all men are eeevil and saying that you wouldn't want to be tied to your bed by one. Not to be crass or anything, but for a start I doubt it would turn her on any more.

 

[Neonit]

this all ridiculousness could be solved by simply changing the original post and admitting that it was something that could be misinterpreted.

im surprised it didnt happen till this point.

and in current form this post could be terribly "misinterpreted" in a way, that could be considered strongly sexist.

also, i believe that if it would indeed be an "misinterpreted text", then it would be explained as such the very first time someone pointed it out, the fact that it wasnt, suggests in my opinion something else.

but here we enter the realm of assuming, and i have no intention of going further in.

as to the topic at hand, whatever happens between two consenting adults in their own bedroom and/or house, is their own business.

i didnt read 50 shades of gray, but from what i see it reminds me of all popular things, where people get mad at something that doesnt affect them. if you dont like something, ignore it.
im too old for getting mad at every next new boys-band, new fashion BS that will fade in a couple of months, or a book that is hated upon, until it is inevitably forgotten over the course of one year and im friggin 20. i saw things like these come by and go away many times.

 

[Seydaman]

As someone into BDSM, there's a broad spectrum. 50 shades is shit in terms of literary quality.

In regards to sexism, I'm personally into a female dominant. But I can swing either way. As long as both parties consent and desire what's happening, it's not sexist.

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[Seydaman]

I really want to know.

I really want proof that I "hate men" ;D

Explain to me why you feel men shouldn't have any power. This is the exact thing that women have fought to end for themselves and you wish to take humanity back but just reversing the roles.

Why?

I don't think you are a feminist at all. No, you are not a feminist.

"Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, and social rights for women."

If you got your wish men and women would not be equal. Please, don't ever call yourself a feminist ever again.

Still waiting for an admission of error on your part or proof of your statement. You made a claim regarding myself at the start of the conversation. Once one of those occurs, I'll answer any question you have

Ok since I havent been involved with the rest of this conversation so theres no "history" can you tell ME why you dislike men having power? Its a curious line to take that you make a statement and then repeatedly refuse to defend it.

But since im asking nicely could you please tell me?

Since you asked nicely ;P

I've simply been abused too many times by men to want to allow them to have any more power over me. Like a child bitten by a dog, I guess. I let my current boyfriend have a little control in some ways--gently pushing my boundaries with me so I can work through my issues--but as a general rule, I like it to be all me, zero him. He's pretty much the most amazing person I've met and he totally gets it. So all is well!

And what if your aggressive treatment of men makes them hate women and act aggressively towards them? Do you see what I'm getting at here?
No one should be abusing anyone, regardless of gender. Just because men have been abusive and dickish to you, doesn?t mean that you can be abusive and dickish to other, unrelated men.

Yar, power imbalances on a non-consent-ual level are sexist. Abuse is bad, wether physical or mental, no one, of any gender, should have to face abuse.