The 'which developer is most evil >:D' thread

[Joccaren]

Tie between EA, Activision-Blizzard and Ubisoft.

Never played Capcom/Konami/Whoever games, though from memory people had problems with at least one of them, but EA, Activision-Blizzard and Ubisoft are all turds that need to die.

The Devs aren't evil [Most of the time], just utterly incompetent in some factors. These publishers however... f*** them all.

 

[Zelcor]

Gonna go and head throw Nintendo into the ring here

-Refuses to update tech to meet standards
-Pretty much gave up on people who love games for the new casual crowd
-Letting garbage third party developers run rampant with their software library
-Purposely holding off releasing pikmin 3 for 8 years even though they know that would've been the kind of game we wanted
-Not giving Intelligent Systems the time of day (mountain of evidence on this one)
-Not letting Retro Studios make original IPs
-Only halfway decent game that came out in the entire year of 2011 was Zelda
-Announcing third party support while shamelessly saying that they are only games that are either already out or games that will be out for a while when the WiiU comes out

and there's plenty more.

And I know what some of you might say that doesn't make them Evil just stupid but what makes it evil is that they do all these things and pretty much know they are the wrong things to do and still look at me saying "Remember us it's good old nintendo please buy our system to play that game you've wanted forever and then never ever making another game you want again."

 

[him over there]

Yep Karutomaru, keep ignoring the posts that prove you wrong.

Can't have confirmation bias without a few double standards

Ahhhhhh, but it's all okay because he uses the most credible source of all, -- himself!

Yeah, that's not biased in the slighest!

I also forgot to mention Majesco. They're almost as bad as Ubisoft.

Probably gonna sound stupid here but who are Majesco?

Just looked it up on Wikipedia, they published Cooking Mama and a couple of things like that. Along with quite a few games that to my memory were actually pretty good. Like they published Psychonauts apparently

Yeah. And Pirates Plundaaar Treasure. And Rico, I believe.

I cry thinking about those pieces of shit.

Are you by any chance a fan of the wiiviewr?

 

[Enthuril]

Yep Karutomaru, keep ignoring the posts that prove you wrong.

Can't have confirmation bias without a few double standards

Ahhhhhh, but it's all okay because he uses the most credible source of all, -- himself!

Yeah, that's not biased in the slighest!

I also forgot to mention Majesco. They're almost as bad as Ubisoft.

Probably gonna sound stupid here but who are Majesco?

Just looked it up on Wikipedia, they published Cooking Mama and a couple of things like that. Along with quite a few games that to my memory were actually pretty good. Like they published Psychonauts apparently

Yeah. And Pirates Plundaaar Treasure. And Rico, I believe.

I cry thinking about those pieces of shit.

I wouldn't say pieces of shit, I'd say that they're games targeted at a different audience which therefore should not be judged in the same way. Because, funnily enough, it's like comparing a romantic comedy and a horror movie for example. They just don't fit the same standard. And if you honestly cry thinking about them, I'd recommend you get help...

 

[him over there]

Yep Karutomaru, keep ignoring the posts that prove you wrong.

Can't have confirmation bias without a few double standards

Ahhhhhh, but it's all okay because he uses the most credible source of all, -- himself!

Yeah, that's not biased in the slighest!

I also forgot to mention Majesco. They're almost as bad as Ubisoft.

Probably gonna sound stupid here but who are Majesco?

Just looked it up on Wikipedia, they published Cooking Mama and a couple of things like that. Along with quite a few games that to my memory were actually pretty good. Like they published Psychonauts apparently

Yeah. And Pirates Plundaaar Treasure. And Rico, I believe.

I cry thinking about those pieces of shit.

Are you by any chance a fan of the wiiviewr?

Not especially. He's waaaay too soft on the truly horrible games. He doesn't seem to understand our standards.

Thanks for the input, I like him for a lot of different reasons but the fact you know what Majesco is tipped me off that you know he exists.

 

[ResonanceSD]

You should have a poll with only two options.

EA or Activision.

And neither of those are developers. They are both publishers.

 

[Vigormortis]

Developer? If it was publisher, I'd say EA.

No Game Devs are evil innately. Some are just idiots.

I'd argue that Blizzard and Epic Games could be considered "evil", in-so-far-as they have been constantly adding extra layers of DRM, premium "extra" content, and other bullshit into their rather lackluster games (currently). Most of the time simply to see how far gamers will go to put up with; and even defend; the companies decision.

Saddest part of it all is the fans have been extraordinarily fervent in their defense. In the case of Diablo 3, I've seen people being even more hypocritical over the games bullshit then the Bioware fans were over the on-disc/Day-1 DLC for Mass Effect 3.

 

[Enthuril]

You should have a poll with only two options.

EA or Activision.

And neither of those are developers. They are both publishers.

EA is technically a bit of both, since they have their own development studios.

Yep Karutomaru, keep ignoring the posts that prove you wrong.

Can't have confirmation bias without a few double standards

Ahhhhhh, but it's all okay because he uses the most credible source of all, -- himself!

Yeah, that's not biased in the slighest!

I also forgot to mention Majesco. They're almost as bad as Ubisoft.

Probably gonna sound stupid here but who are Majesco?

Just looked it up on Wikipedia, they published Cooking Mama and a couple of things like that. Along with quite a few games that to my memory were actually pretty good. Like they published Psychonauts apparently

Yeah. And Pirates Plundaaar Treasure. And Rico, I believe.

I cry thinking about those pieces of shit.

Are you by any chance a fan of the wiiviewr?

Not especially. He's waaaay too soft on the truly horrible games. He doesn't seem to understand our standards.

And whose standards are those aside from your own?

It's funny, you kind of remind me of a guy I used to date in the fact that he was the kind of person who had unreasonable standards for things and tried to impose those standards on others, hating things without actually giving a proper reason why.

 

[Gorilla Gunk]

Valve because seriously fuck them.

"We can't get DLC to the consoles because MS/Sony won't let us!!!"

*Looks at the heaps of awesome DLC Borderlands, Fallout, and Bioware's games get*

Really Valve? Really?

 

[him over there]

Yep Karutomaru, keep ignoring the posts that prove you wrong.

Can't have confirmation bias without a few double standards

Ahhhhhh, but it's all okay because he uses the most credible source of all, -- himself!

Yeah, that's not biased in the slighest!

I also forgot to mention Majesco. They're almost as bad as Ubisoft.

Probably gonna sound stupid here but who are Majesco?

Just looked it up on Wikipedia, they published Cooking Mama and a couple of things like that. Along with quite a few games that to my memory were actually pretty good. Like they published Psychonauts apparently

Yeah. And Pirates Plundaaar Treasure. And Rico, I believe.

I cry thinking about those pieces of shit.

Are you by any chance a fan of the wiiviewr?

Not especially. He's waaaay too soft on the truly horrible games. He doesn't seem to understand our standards.

Thanks for the input, I like him for a lot of different reasons but the fact you know what Majesco is tipped me off that you know he exists.

What? He has nothing to do with that. I know Majesco because their games always get slammed in Nintendo Power for being shovelware shit.

Really? I don't see much in Nintendo Power about them but the wiiviewr rags on them and calls attention to them all the time.

 

[ResonanceSD]

You should have a poll with only two options.

EA or Activision.

And neither of those are developers. They are both publishers.

EA is technically a bit of both, since they have their own development studios.

Well no they fucking don't. They buy profitable studios, slap an EA badge on them, gut the staff and call it a day.

EA Bioware
EA Maxis

EA "Sports"

That's their business model in a nutshell. They're a developer in the same way that a holding company is the company that it owns. I.e. they're the same to people who don't know what the difference is.

 

[ResonanceSD]

Valve because seriously fuck them.

"We can't get DLC to the consoles because MS/Sony won't let us!!!"

*Looks at the heaps of awesome DLC Borderlands, Fallout, and Bioware's games get*

Really Valve? Really?

Brave poster is brave. Do you know what the subtleties of "why valve won't release updates to consoles" are?

XBOX charge a shitload of money for each patch to go through. do you have any idea how often those patches are released for the source engine?

 

[Enthuril]

You should have a poll with only two options.

EA or Activision.

And neither of those are developers. They are both publishers.

EA is technically a bit of both, since they have their own development studios.

Well no they fucking don't. They buy profitable studios, slap an EA badge on them, gut the staff and call it a day.

EA Bioware
EA Maxis

EA "Sports"

That's their business model in a nutshell. They're a developer in the same way that a holding company is the company that it owns. I.e. they're the same to people who don't know what the difference is.

To be fair most of their studios are nothing of what they used to be, so they're more EA than they are anything.

 

[ResonanceSD]

You should have a poll with only two options.

EA or Activision.

And neither of those are developers. They are both publishers.

EA is technically a bit of both, since they have their own development studios.

Well no they fucking don't. They buy profitable studios, slap an EA badge on them, gut the staff and call it a day.

EA Bioware
EA Maxis

EA "Sports"

That's their business model in a nutshell. They're a developer in the same way that a holding company is the company that it owns. I.e. they're the same to people who don't know what the difference is.

To be fair most of their studios are nothing of what they used to be, so they're more EA than they are anything.

Which doesn't invalidate my point even slightly. At their core, EA are still a publisher.

 

[Enthuril]

You should have a poll with only two options.

EA or Activision.

And neither of those are developers. They are both publishers.

EA is technically a bit of both, since they have their own development studios.

Well no they fucking don't. They buy profitable studios, slap an EA badge on them, gut the staff and call it a day.

EA Bioware
EA Maxis

EA "Sports"

That's their business model in a nutshell. They're a developer in the same way that a holding company is the company that it owns. I.e. they're the same to people who don't know what the difference is.

To be fair most of their studios are nothing of what they used to be, so they're more EA than they are anything.

Which doesn't invalidate my point even slightly. At their core, EA are still a publisher.

Never said they weren't, I was merely pointing out that EA are technically a developer as well. Doesn't matter what they are either way though, they're still pretty shit.

 

[bullet_sandw1ch]

Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft.

Jim did NOT spit enough metaphorical acid at them in his Ubisoft episode! They have done FAR more shit over the entirety of this generation that he didn't bring up!

i would say NIIIIIIIIINNNNNNEEEEENNNNNNNDDDDDDO. all they do is take old games and rape them. over and over. also because you must be a nintendo fanboy.

 

[ResonanceSD]

You should have a poll with only two options.

EA or Activision.

And neither of those are developers. They are both publishers.

EA is technically a bit of both, since they have their own development studios.

Well no they fucking don't. They buy profitable studios, slap an EA badge on them, gut the staff and call it a day.

EA Bioware
EA Maxis

EA "Sports"

That's their business model in a nutshell. They're a developer in the same way that a holding company is the company that it owns. I.e. they're the same to people who don't know what the difference is.

To be fair most of their studios are nothing of what they used to be, so they're more EA than they are anything.

Which doesn't invalidate my point even slightly. At their core, EA are still a publisher.

Never said they weren't, I was merely pointing out that EA are technically a developer as well. Doesn't matter what they are either way though, they're still pretty shit.

In this thread, yes it kinda does. They are in no way a developer as they Don't. Create. Games. They Just Buy And Sell Companies Who Do Create Them.

 

[bullet_sandw1ch]

Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft Ubisoft.

Jim did NOT spit enough metaphorical acid at them in his Ubisoft episode! They have done FAR more shit over the entirety of this generation that he didn't bring up!

i would say NIIIIIIIIINNNNNNEEEEENNNNNNNDDDDDDO. all they do is take old games and rape them. over and over. also because you must be a nintendo fanboy.

When have they ever done that?

mario, sonic, pokemon, zelda, the list goes on. all these games have had abysmal entries recently, either bringing nothing to the table thats new/fun[ pokemon black/white], or just being shit [skyward sword].

 

[AetherWolf]

Activision, if I'm forced not to choose EA (seeing how most people in this thread have mentioned them). From their general overpriced DLC to axing franchises that still show potential. In most cases I despise them more than EA.

 

[Gorilla Gunk]

Valve because seriously fuck them.

"We can't get DLC to the consoles because MS/Sony won't let us!!!"

*Looks at the heaps of awesome DLC Borderlands, Fallout, and Bioware's games get*

Really Valve? Really?

Brave poster is brave. Do you know what the subtleties of "why valve won't release updates to consoles" are?

XBOX charge a shitload of money for each patch to go through. do you have any idea how often those patches are released for the source engine?

Bethesda and other companies don't seem to have too much trouble affording updates and it's not like we're asking for updates every week. Any updates would be nice and not just two or three then abandon the game entirely pretending it doesn't exist.

If memory serves me correct updates for LIVE cost around 30 grand. Valve is a multi-billion dollar company. You telling me they can't afford it?

If you step back and examine the situation you'd realize they don't really have that great an excuse. Too bad most Valve fans have Gabe's cock rammed halfway down their throat cutting off oxygen to their brain and preventing them from thinking logically.