Are we? Don't we lack a sense of humor if we refuse to laugh? Jokes are funny, after all.You are free to not like anything
Speaking of the counter protest, wasn't it formed by the guy who defended fucking CUTIES?
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Are we? Don't we lack a sense of humor if we refuse to laugh? Jokes are funny, after all.You are free to not like anything
Which makes it even funnier because the Netflix protestors were fine with Cuties but it was Dave Chapelle's specials that were the problem? Really?Speaking of the counter protest, wasn't it formed by the guy who defended fucking CUTIES?
yes, so as Suicide Squad flip flop and all sorts it's hard to call them properganda especially when half the time it's Wallers Cadmus or other such labs experiments getting out of hand that requires them to go in. Literally government black ops experiments going wrong.A villain can tell you what's NOT acceptable. That's the point of them. With the note the Suicide Squad, due to them being protagonists, are able to flip flop due to them needing to be heroes sometimes
Because once it's out, made and there. What the hell is the point in trying to ban it or remove it again? Yes it's not for said audience they say so and if they weren't the audience for the property anyway they can be ignored.This started with you implying they should be offended. You are doing the exact same thing you decry. It's been the whole point of this. Sure, they might not have power. Neither do you.
You can be offended but you can take responsibility for the offence because you walking into a Welsh Nationalist bar while not being Welsh. What did you expect a warm welcome as you ordered your English beer in English?No. If someone calls me or anyone else a child murderer, I'm allowed to be offended. I wouldn't doubt that 95% of the population of the world would agree with me.
Again, this is you just pretending you have the power to decide what's offensive
No it seems to show you misunderstand the existing groundwork on a lot of the present subject to suggest the jokes are part of the issue here to begin with or in any way comparable to a mainstream news source lolThis is not a rebuttal. This shows you misunderstand my point
And that's his prerogative to argue for them to change. He was putting how offended to him to use to make the arguments as to why people should side with him rather than an angry mob who went after Daphne. Due made that argument right there. The protests against him are arguing people shouldn't be even allowed to hear his arguments.I mean, Chappelle was out there trying to shame millions of people on international TV (stream? I don't know what we could call it). He was asking them to change their ways. He was asking people to side with him.
YesAnd if somebody doesn't like it to the point that they drop Netflix over it, that's fine, right?
YesIs telling other people that they dropped Netflix over it okay, or is that invalid speech?
Pretty sure you're over the line at this point into a no because you're entering into just trying to suppress stuff you don't like.Is telling Netflix that they'll buy Netflix again if they stop buying these kind of shows again okay, or is that invalid speech?
Yes that's fine as long as you don't start claiming it should be removed because it's harmful.Is telling people how and why they think that "comedy" is bad okay or invalid speech when the opinion is the majority opinion? Does it change if it's a minority opinion?
I'd argue it's fine as long as you're not at the point of arguing adults shouldn't have access to it either on the grounds of "We live in a society" or something.Would asking for a different age rating or adult verification or a content warning be okay to segregate offwomen in bikinisedgy jokes that don't land for the subject of the joke?
Did a fucking survey did you?Which makes it even funnier because the Netflix protestors were fine with Cuties but it was Dave Chapelle's specials that were the problem? Really?
Yep.And if somebody doesn't like it to the point that they drop Netflix over it, that's fine, right?
It is okay.Is telling other people that they dropped Netflix over it okay, or is that invalid speech?
Thats fine too.Is telling Netflix that they'll buy Netflix again if they stop buying these kind of shows again okay, or is that invalid speech?
This is basically just reviewing the show so it is perfectly fine. However it might be disingenuous if you dont actually watch the show and thus make this opinion based off snippets and heresay.telling people how and why they think that "comedy" is bad okay or invalid speech when the opinion is the majority opinion? Does it change if it's a minority opinion?
I think it would be fine to ask netflix to put a trigger warning on the beginning of the show. If that would make people feel better. That is much fairer of a request than not having the show at all.Would asking for a different age rating or adult verification or a content warning be okay to segregate offwomen in bikinisedgy jokes that don't land for the subject of the joke?
Nothing you suggested is a demand for removal, nothing you suggested was anything more than critique and explanation for why you personally will no longer support Netflix based off your opinion of the comedy. You comment and you vote with your wallet which is perfectly okay. I have said this many times this thread so i dunno why there was so much confusion.Just trying to sus out the line between "valid criticism" and "cancel culture"
Did a fucking survey did you?
To be fair, Netflix screwed up the marketing for that movie. They marketed it completely the wrong way, and it was not marketed like that in it's home country, nor anywhere else. There was a whole bunch of misleading advertisement all on Netflix part and not the director. I'm not defending the movie, because I have no interest, but Netflix itself did nothing to make the situation better at all. They sure as hell didn't bother to help the director when she was constantly harassed by racists jackasses or those thinking she was doing a pedo bait movie.Cuties | Rotten Tomatoes
A talented 11-year-old girl joins a hip-hop dance troupe.www.rottentomatoes.com
This survey did. I find it funny that critics loved the child exploitation but hated Dave Chappelle jokes.
Then again critics are rarely right these days. But the audiences clearly are more accepting of one show versus the other one.
Child sexualization in the name of art is fine. But you better not make a trans joke or you are fucked mister!
Let's just deal with thisYou can be offended but you can take responsibility for the offence because you walking into a Welsh Nationalist bar while not being Welsh. What did you expect a warm welcome as you ordered your English beer in English?
Yes! Perfect. Telling your friends and posting reviews online for people to NOT visit a restaurant is totally cool and fair game.Let's just deal with this
If such a thing would happen, the customer would be writing a Yelp review and then telling all their friends, online and off. Because something so blatantly racist is not acceptable in society
That's what the responsible action would be, warning people of inappropriate behaviour
And people are perfectly entitled to write a yelp review. It'd be hilarious cause generally pubs love but the Welsh nationalist types who hate the English don't care too much about English business anyway lolLet's just deal with this
If such a thing would happen, the customer would be writing a Yelp review and then telling all their friends, online and off. Because something so blatantly racist is not acceptable in society
That's what the responsible action would be, warning people of inappropriate behaviour
So they walked out over Cuties did they?Did a fucking survey did you?
So what's the problem? You seem to be fine with literally everything that's happening. These people aren't running around canceling other people's Netflix accountsYep.
It is okay.
Thats fine too.
This is basically just reviewing the show so it is perfectly fine. However it might be disingenuous if you dont actually watch the show and thus make this opinion based off snippets and heresay.
I think it would be fine to ask netflix to put a trigger warning on the beginning of the show. If that would make people feel better. That is much fairer of a request than not having the show at all.
Nothing you suggested is a demand for removal, nothing you suggested was anything more than critique and explanation for why you personally will no longer support Netflix based off your opinion of the comedy. You comment and you vote with your wallet which is perfectly okay. I have said this many times this thread so i dunno why there was so much confusion.
Nobody is trying to wield state power here. Just telling the owners that they won't be back while that asshole is still serving customersYes! Perfect. Telling your friends and posting reviews online for people to NOT visit a restaurant is totally cool and fair game.
Going to the city and demanding the city shut the business down because one of the waiters was an asshole or the cook got your food wrong or that the customers were rude....not cool.
Seems fair right?
Ah. Thanks for proving that your into crybullingAnd people are perfectly entitled to write a yelp review. It'd be hilarious cause generally pubs love but the Welsh nationalist types who hate the English don't care too much about English business anyway lol
I find it funny the whole "it's not acceptable in society". It's their regular pub just don't go in there. Society is not obliged to cater to everyone all the time and as long as they're in their pub they're not causing trouble in other pubs.
Welsh Nationalist pub, Welsh Nationalist Pub rules. It's how private establishments operate
So, you're into cancelling as long as there isn't a rally about it. Got itYes! Perfect. Telling your friends and posting reviews online for people to NOT visit a restaurant is totally cool and fair game.
Going to the city and demanding the city shut the business down because one of the waiters was an asshole or the cook got your food wrong or that the customers were rude....not cool.
Seems fair right?
What? Critique isn't cancelling. How do you even put those together as the same thing?So, you're into cancelling as long as there isn't a rally about it. Got it
When is it cancelling in your eyes?What? Critique isn't cancelling. How do you even put those together as the same thing?
You you demand a piece of media to be outright removed. Or a business to be outright close. Especially when no legal wrong doing has taken place.When is it cancelling in your eyes?
Nope writing bad jokes is pretty easy as it turns out.See? An actual fucking joke! It's not that hard!