After hearing of Osama's death I listened to the America Fuck Yea song....then I went on with my live.
Well you don't know shit about Pakistan. Their intelligence agency, the ISI, is probably 25% al-Qaeda. The last Pakistani politician that would have stood up to al-Qaeda was Bhutto, and look how that turned out.manythings said:They had nothing to gain from supporting him... they're kind of fighting a war against the incursion of "Al Qaeda". The group that has been taking control of large areas of their country. It's kind of a big deal.CrazyJuan77 said:I wasnt one to run out and join the party in the streets. I was working, but I dont blame them at all. The scar that the 911 attacks left on the American psyche made these celebrations pretty much unavoidable. Apart from that, the celebrations were non violent, just a gatherings of peopel reveling in a big win. I've seen worse at "football" (soccer) games. People are just being hypersensitve to it.
As far as Pakistans sovereignty is concerned, I can understand why they would feel slighted by our kicking in the door and taking bin ladin without asking for permission. That said, the truth of the matter is despite the billions of dollars of our aid money they have happily accepted there was doubt that pakistan wouldnt tip our hand and warn osama that it was coming. I mean lets be real about it, the guy was in thier back yard in a HUGE complex built specifically for him, I just cant find it credible that nobody knew he was there. Seeing as how the stance of America has been we are going to get this guy, whatever it takes, stand with us or against us, any doubt basically ruled out America not asserting its OWN sovereignty and killing the man who so richly deserved our retribution.
Also he's dead but the next "threat" to America will appear promptly, just in time to deflect attention from the next scandal.
Personally, anyone who boos any anthem is a terrible person. I'd rather they weren't Canadian (or even exist at all), but we can all have our dreams. That's really a matter of respect. I mainly hear it come from the other end (being Canadian myself; everyone has their bias), and for the most part, we tend to roll with the joke...I honestly can't say I've ever heard an American boo our anthem, though. That's just disgraceful.emeraldrafael said:well... I'm thinking of very specific cases like where Canadians decide to boo our national anthem while they're in our country, even when Americans have the courtesy to be respectful during Oh Canada.Lonan said:I would be more scared if they didn't have the courage to do so, and only bad-mouthed from the safety of Canada. I would also be rather disgusted.emeraldrafael said:Why should it scare people? The US is a country based on revenge. This wasnt about a war on terror. This was about getting the guy, and we did.
Besides, its just a bunch of drunks chanting USA USA USA!
I'll tell you what scares me. When the Canadians bad mouth America while they're in America. I'm scared for the guys, they may not make it back over the border.
Or when a Canadian said something about how the American Health Care system sucks (which, some parts do), and Universal Health care had no faults whatsoever and continued to ride it. I dont know why that argument bothers me, but it always does when the conversation between private and universal comes up.
No, believing the U.S. should destroyed makes you a psychopath to the same extent wanting any other country destroyed makes you a psychopath (it does, by the way). You can tell us to screw off all you want.redisforever said:Ok, so if I believe America can go screw itself, I am a psychopath? Because of what I believe? I can't argue that I believe Jews should die, as I am one, but his beliefs don't make him a psychopath.
Wrong people have every right to celebrate an evil being purged from the Earth. Americans don't really have much to celebrate lately so whats wrong with a lil happyness about the world being less 1 very evil man.Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:First of all, a disclaimer: I'm American, and I really hate these people celebrating in the streets. All my (American) friends agree that it's kind of sick.
The event of a death should always be met with dignity and respect, no matter who died. Death should never be a cause for celebration.
Well go ahead and give your acceptance speech, because you just won the Pretentious Award for Pretentiousness on the Internet. I may have removed a few words from your plaque to protect myself from moderation. I won't tell you the award's full name, but a word that rhymes with "stick" was definitely in there somewhere.Andothul said:Wrong people have every right to celebrate an evil being purged from the Earth. Americans don't really have much to celebrate lately so whats wrong with a lil happyness about the world being less 1 very evil man.Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:First of all, a disclaimer: I'm American, and I really hate these people celebrating in the streets. All my (American) friends agree that it's kind of sick.
The event of a death should always be met with dignity and respect, no matter who died. Death should never be a cause for celebration.
I love the hipsters who keep saying its sick were celebrating a mans death. Any news is bad news to them and Americans are a terrible people blah blah blah
Seeing as I dont believe in the death penalty in any case (in any circumstances)... But that aside, wanting revenge comes from a base human instinct to get your own back, its petty and childish. And yes I certainly would argue with families of any of the victims that just because a man indirectly caused the death of their relative, that does not give them the right to have their 'revenge' as your suggesting.Kadoodle said:Maybe you should tell the families of the 9/11 victims that Bin Laden had a right to life, and that any revenge would have been infantile.ShakyFiend said:Yeah you really make it sound like spite, I thought vengeance was something toddler's did after you stole their sweets? I know the whole of America has a superiority complex but really is this actually necessary? Its just infantile.Kadoodle said:and againShakyFiend said:Snip
Fire with fire and the whole world will burn im afraid (and we'll be blind on top of that), and if your really arguing tit for tat you have just justified another terrorist attack on your country, works both ways.The Incredible Bulk said:The damn terrorists celebrated when the towers went down. Why the FUCK should we not do the same when their leader is killed? Eye for an eye. Fire with fire.
Exactly, is there anything civilized about waving flags over a man's death? (and I dont know where your got your definition of 'medieval' from but that is one hell of a generalization you've got there).maturin said:"Medieval" typically refers to widespread human impulses unadulterated by civilized restraint.ShakyFiend said:Does that not seem a bit medieval to anyone else?
You're absolutely right, go put some flowers on his grave.ShakyFiend said:So, Osama, Ok death of a international hate figure aside etc etc if anyone deserved it he did and so on, thats not what worries me. (although isnt it a bit odd how the US can stroll into a country and execute who they like?)
The troubling thing is thisand
and to be honest, this [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/editors_note/8844-Editors-Note-Better-Than-Before] as well which is what prompted this thread.![]()
And this is happening all over the US, people are actively celebrating killing a guy? Does that not seem a bit medieval to anyone else? When people turn out in their thousands to celebrate something like this it justs worries me like hell.
Anyone else? Or are you all patriotic Americans and whatnot?
THANK YOU, thought I was the only one who had seemed to notice it...OmegaAlucard777 said:I find it a bit funny how a majority of Americans were totally shocked and pissed off when Al-Qadea and the other Anti-American's were celebrating in the streets and stuff when the 9/11 happened, yet they find themselves doing the EXACT SAME THING.