This scare the shit out of anyone else?

[redisforever]

Lying, probably. Heard of exaggeration? Also, he did not take personal credit at first. He said he agreed with the attacks, but later said he taken part in the planning. According to the interviews I've read about him, he was indeed a polite, quietly-spoken man. This is what the US government does, any enemy of theirs is turned into a caricature of themselves.

Just becuase he was polite and quietly spoken doesn't mean he wasn't a psychopath.

Yes, psychopaths could be polite, but why was he a psychopath? Because he fought for what he believed in? I am very much against him, but that doesn't mean he can't act on what he believes in.

 

[Dfskelleton]

He killed millions of innocent civillians, and now he's dead. We're celebrating that the man who has caused us so much pain has finally gotten what's been coming to him, and we're glad about it. Sure, celebrating the death of someone isn't usually acceptable, but then again, neither was 9/11.
In my oppinion:

 

[Zorg Machine]

While I think that it's fair to allow people to say that justice has been served and that they finally got the bastard, it crosses the line when they actually take to the streets and party over the death of a single person. especially when it doesn't mark the end of a war.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

Lying, probably. Heard of exaggeration? Also, he did not take personal credit at first. He said he agreed with the attacks, but later said he taken part in the planning. According to the interviews I've read about him, he was indeed a polite, quietly-spoken man. This is what the US government does, any enemy of theirs is turned into a caricature of themselves.

Just becuase he was polite and quietly spoken doesn't mean he wasn't a psychopath.

Yes, psychopaths could be polite, but why was he a psychopath? Because he fought for what he believed in? I am very much against him, but that doesn't mean he can't act on what he believes in.

I'd hope sane people wouldn't do the things that he did.

 

[Cpu46]

And this is happening all over the US, people are actively celebrating killing a guy? Does that not seem a bit medieval to anyone else? When people turn out in their thousands to celebrate something like this it justs worries me like hell.

We learned that our special forces just killed the mastermind behind an attack on our country that killed thousands of people, destroyed two civilian buildings, heavily damaged our military headquarters, and tried to destroy the capitol building all while using planes filled with American citizens.

Yea, were celebrating the death of a guy.

 

[Belated]

Sometimes we're a bit TOO new-age. I don't see anything wrong with celebrating a person's death if that person totally deserved it. So what? What's the problem? He was an ass. He's dead. And we're glad to be rid of him. Is this not cause to celebrate? There's such a thing as thinking too hard about something. Maybe if he had some redeeming qualities as a person, or a valid reason to be upset with us, then his death would be tragic and something to reflect on. But it's not. He was an unambiguously evil bastard who plotted something that resulted in the death of thousands. His demise is indeed cause to celebrate. Yes he thought he was justified in his own head, but pretty much nobody out of nobody agrees with him except a few other people following archaic rules in an archaic book that they misinterpreted.

 

[Frozen Donkey Wheel2]

All the more reason to take the high road and SHOW some dignity and respect. Two wrongs don't make a right. If we continue to treat him as we would any other human being, despite everything he did, we assert our moral authority over him and his followers. We make a statement: "We will never sink to his level."

Not sure I quite get this idea. We're America, not Batman. We're allowed to kill our enemies, just so long as we don't get stupid about it. This all seems quite contained and reasonable as far as military operations go.

Not to mention that "sinking to his level" would involve secretly plotting and then engaging in the deaths of thousands of civilians in a series of cowardly attacks. He's basically been a military target for 10 years, so this outcome should come as no surprise.

Look, I'm not saying it's bad that we killed him. We were well within our rights to do that. I'm just saying we should be a little more tactful about our reaction.

And as for the "sinking to his level" bit, I was speaking philosophically, not literally.

 

[Xpwn3ntial]

Lying, probably. Heard of exaggeration? Also, he did not take personal credit at first. He said he agreed with the attacks, but later said he taken part in the planning. According to the interviews I've read about him, he was indeed a polite, quietly-spoken man. This is what the US government does, any enemy of theirs is turned into a caricature of themselves.

Just becuase he was polite and quietly spoken doesn't mean he wasn't a psychopath.

Yes, psychopaths could be polite, but why was he a psychopath? Because he fought for what he believed in? I am very much against him, but that doesn't mean he can't act on what he believes in.

He believed in the destruction of the U.S. (western civilization in general, really) and the deaths of Jews.

Yes, it does mean he can't act on what he believes in. Yes, it does make him a psychopath.

 

[Dr.A]

Just a quick reply to the part where you said "(although isnt it a bit odd how the US can stroll into a country and execute who they like?)".

The US did not stroll into Pakistan and kill Osama just like that, they were working together with the Pakistani people. It was not just a random thing.

Someone may have ninja'd me already, but I don't feel like sorting through 8+ pages of this.

 

[Burtono]

Well it is nice to win a hide and seek match for the past 10 years

 

[Exterminas]

Sure it is perverse.

People seem to forget that there is a difference between venegance and justice.
It just gets sader if you realize that this whole event is part of war that is supposed to help spread democracy and western values over the world.

 

[Shadie777]

"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." Martin Luther King Jr

Yeah, I know I'm British and so a lot of people would say I don't have a say in this, but fuck celebrating this.

I am glad that he's dead, I can do that, I can be happy that someone who caused so much hate and anger and retaliation which led to more hate and anger is dead, but that doens't mean I have to celebrate, I don't rejoice. I even find it quite hard to see this as a positive thing. Well done, after a decade of death and horror, you finally managed to kill an old man, who will doubtless be avenged in return.

There is a lot of truth in this comment.

 

[pliusmannn]

Yeah, all these celebrations make me upset aswell. I would celebrate an end of a war, but not the killing of a man no matter how evil. These celebrations makes me see most of America as hypocrites, full of wanna-be faithful, but once again evil as the man they've killed. Also lol at the hand with peace symbol there, that's just pathetic...

I may not be celebrating the death of Osama with anything more than somberness, but this right here? Don't take a pathetic moral high ground if you don't understand the situation.

Here's a little perspective: It's been a very bitter decade. With war after war and the recession hitting the world hard, there's finally a scrap of good news. As a generation, our maturation has been put on pause fueled by an after-911 setting of paranoia and fear. Most of the people who have been celebrating were barely eight-to-twelve at the time of this 9/11 happening and for most, they've never heard of anything more terrible before in their so-far short lives. It was seared into their memory and had such a profound effect. For those who weren't children at the time, it brought them together and united a country that at times is at constant arguing with itself, one half against another. It brought a sense of unity for them that lasted longer for some rather than others, but it still brought them together, even through grief.

In the wake of all of this bad news that has been compounding and piling on top of us for the past decade, people finally got some good news to celebrate over that wasn't just another "WOO, Superbowl!" They're not celebrating the death of a man; they're celebrating their relief that things might slowly be able to turn back to normal. Whether this is a naive view is up for debate, but that's beside the point.

I'm not celebrating the death of Osama, but after having been given this perspective on the situation I believe calling out "hypocrite" and "pathetic!" is founded in ignorance.

Your view is right, but from my point of view, when I am not US citizen, when in my country we celebrate these releavance occassions silently, this seems not right, yes someone accepts it as an starting end to a war, but it's not the end itself, also US wasn't reppressed, it wasn't colonised or attacked by a whole country, decade of this war seems nothing compared to soviets and their consentration camps, nazis and camps of theirs, and soviets actally was worse, except world was ignorant to this

Well, then let's do each other a favor and not call someone pathetic for differing cultures, yeah? I don't know where you're from, but many countries had many, many violent celebrations in their traditions that to this day are only barely fading away from the public's attention. Britain has a few like these that used to be absolutely filled with hatred.

I did not say it was the end itself. Nobody said that. Nobody's saying that. That's just silly.

Nor did I say that the US was repressed at all. Where in the world did I say that and how is it relevant? The "Well, someone else had it worse" is a weak argument that is pointless because there'll always be someone else whose had it worse. (Also, the soviets didn't have it the worst.)

To clear my view, I say that silent celebration is more wise. If we are looking forward then we must have to put end to barbaric celebrations of death. Also soviets didn't have bad at all, what i say, those who were repressed by soviets had maybe worst time, even yewish wasn't treated like ukrainians, or people from baltics. Sure there's every time "we had it worse than you" talk, I don't say it's wise and I'm not considering myself wise, my point is, if we talk about peace, then we must talk about respect too, and violent loud celebrations is not ever in a shadow of any kind of respect. If humanity would ever hit adulthood, we won't see celebrations as this one, or any other like this.

Yes, I know. That's why I'm not out there celebrating by getting drunk and chanting "USA! USA! USA!" I'm treating the situation somberly and respectfully. And while I like that you're treating it silently, calling those who don't "Pathetic" and "Hypocrites" when it isn't hypocritical and they aren't pathetic is no wiser than they are. Nor is it respectful at all. So, if you really are preaching respect, then preach respect, but don't come off as an ass at the same time.

You are right, I see that this doesn't make me different from them too. Well I've done my mistake and I am sorry. Those words came from just from the point where people are calling themselves faithful, go to church and believe in god. Me myself, I don't go to church I am not religious in any way, but standing against your beliefs seems somekind of pathetic to me, I accept that people have faith in god and I respect that, but when those people doesn't live a life they pretend to, then it's quite different talk. Also when those same people call me an atheist or satanist

Well, it's good that you admit it and apologized! That's the mature and wise thing to do.

As for your latter point, I can agree with that. I'm Christian myself, but I don't associate with any church because I find most of them to be hypocritical. I go by myself and preach love and tolerance, not any of the hate-mongering they do. I just wish more Christians would actually follow the teachings of Jesus. Most do not seem to do that.

But don't worry if they call you a satanist, for those who are ridiculed for their beliefs shall inherit Heaven. Or, at least that's what more of those teachings would have you believe. Uh, but that's a discussion for elsewhere.

Thank you for the conversation. As for my beliefs, I have knowledge of most of them from Bible teachings to darkest cults, but I keep at my own faith. It's those rare times when you can have constructive and good conversation with people from far away makes me happy

 

[Jeans44]

I don't like it, killing him didn't solve anything nor will it ever be a "victory" no matter how loud people yell about it out on the streets.

 

[Kyle Roberts]

It reminds me of what happened in Ww2 Since they had a proper war and enemy to fight the allies or so should i say americans felt proud (And made 5000 games about it) it was a accomplisment and finding a guy who "slaughtered" people after 10 years of searching makes them feel that again i will say its a outstanding thing but there not crediting england and the other places at helped.

Im not saying america has became a bunch of selfish morons soaking up the glory im just stating at its a bit over the top if they won the war and we could stop sending people there then we could celebrate not because the leader was killed i mean if (and don't be offended or moan at me) a general was killed and they celebrated we would be outraged but seeing how all the civilan deaths and rape ats going on it would be justified (well sort of) im just stating from what i seen when i was there for a year or so.
I may be taking this into the wrong direction.

 

[redisforever]

Lying, probably. Heard of exaggeration? Also, he did not take personal credit at first. He said he agreed with the attacks, but later said he taken part in the planning. According to the interviews I've read about him, he was indeed a polite, quietly-spoken man. This is what the US government does, any enemy of theirs is turned into a caricature of themselves.

Just becuase he was polite and quietly spoken doesn't mean he wasn't a psychopath.

Yes, psychopaths could be polite, but why was he a psychopath? Because he fought for what he believed in? I am very much against him, but that doesn't mean he can't act on what he believes in.

He believed in the destruction of the U.S. (western civilization in general, really) and the deaths of Jews.

Yes, it does mean he can't act on what he believes in. Yes, it does make him a psychopath.

Ok, so if I believe America can go screw itself, I am a psychopath? Because of what I believe? I can't argue that I believe Jews should die, as I am one, but his beliefs don't make him a psychopath.

 

[Kadoodle]

Snip

and again

Yeah you really make it sound like spite, I thought vengeance was something toddler's did after you stole their sweets? I know the whole of America has a superiority complex but really is this actually necessary? Its just infantile.

There is a massive difference between taking candy and slaughtering thousands of innocent men and women and ruining the lives of their family members. It's only infantile when the cause is trivial.

Maybe you should tell the families of the 9/11 victims that Bin Laden had a right to life, and that any revenge would have been infantile.

 

[00slash00]

So, Osama, Ok death of a international hate figure aside etc etc if anyone deserved it he did and so on, thats not what worries me. (although isnt it a bit odd how the US can stroll into a country and execute who they like?)

The troubling thing is this

and

Spoiler: this

and to be honest, this [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/editors_note/8844-Editors-Note-Better-Than-Before] as well which is what prompted this thread.

And this is happening all over the US, people are actively celebrating killing a guy? Does that not seem a bit medieval to anyone else? When people turn out in their thousands to celebrate something like this it justs worries me like hell.

Anyone else? Or are you all patriotic Americans and whatnot?

scary? no. revolting and disrespectful, definitely. im not saying bin laden deserved respect from anybody, but i am saying that human life deserves respect. i understand that people are happy that we finally got revenge. theres nothing wrong with revenge, just as long as people realize that its all this is

 

[JUMBO PALACE]

Even though this thread has been done to death...

I think it's in really bad taste. I'm honestly shocked that my fellow Americans are actively celebrating an assassination. Pictures like that make us look no better than those who took to the streets to celebrate the attacks on 9/11. Have some class.