Tracer from Overwatch Confirmed as a Lesbian.

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My reaction: Whooooooo gives a shit? They're literally Team Fortess 2.5 level characters. She could be literal asexual(not the way it's misused today, but as in can make another Tracer all by herself) and it makes no damn difference. The only people who care about this are Waifu Warriors and Rule 34 artists. Keep trying Blizzard. I'm not coming back to your game
 

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theevilgenius60 said:
My reaction: Whooooooo gives a shit?
You can find around a dozen people in this thread. Is that a serious question, or are you trying to pretend that your opinion is the majority?
theevilgenius60 said:
The only people who care about this are Waifu Warriors and Rule 34 artists.
Classy.
 

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Silentpony said:
nomotog said:
I would have expected more people to see this coming. It's not really a surprise.
To be fair, at least for me, I'm less surprised as bewildered. Like...why does it matter, in any way? Were there really lesbians on the fence saying "Well, the gameplay and story are crap and its very repetitive, but if only there was a fellow lesbian character for me to identify with, it'd make the game tolerable."
And I didn't even know one of the characters was said to be LGBTQRS+, so its doubly bewildering anyone who bought the game on that selling point. What if it wasn't the correct character for them? Are they gonna stop playing because the monkey dude doesn't like balls?

It reminds me of that 'Dumbledore is gay' saga. It never came up in story and was completely irrelevant to everything, especially anyone who didn't like the series because of the lack of secretly gay old men with beards who die without ever revealing their sexuality to a teenager.
I quit worrying about the justification for queer awhile ago. I never worried about why the straight people were straight, so it really wasn't fair.
 

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nomotog said:
Well put indeed.
I hate to use the term 'normal' because it galvanizes anyone not under that umbrella, but same with me with heterosexual sexuality. I just assume heterosexual, because its the statistically more likely sexuality, but in the event of a homosexual relationship(regardless of gender), I just shrug as well. Neat. How does it add to the gameplay, etc...

But I guess that's prejudice? Technically? Pre-judging? Anyway, I'll stop worrying about the implied sexuality of a fictional character of a game I don't play.
 

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erttheking said:
theevilgenius60 said:
My reaction: Whooooooo gives a shit?
You can find around a dozen people in this thread. Is that a serious question, or are you trying to pretend that your opinion is the majority?
theevilgenius60 said:
The only people who care about this are Waifu Warriors and Rule 34 artists.
Classy.
Not meant to be classy, just as a flip remark, but tell me. Other than those two groups, who would really care?
 

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I believe this is somewhat appropriate:


OT: Aaaaand this changes things... how exactly? I mean, the R34 train has basically been speeding at Mach 2 since the game's release, and from empirical rese... I mean from rumors I've heard, most of it is already her getting funky with the other female characters. I can't even see this adding more fuel to the fire, since the porn scene around Overwatch is already like Dresden in 1945 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II]. I'm not against it, Blizzard can do whatever they want with their properties (but after this they certainly don't have the right to complain about the R34 anymore), but acting like this is some world changing shock is a teensy weensy bit blown out of proportion.

Metalix Knightmare said:
I just wanna know one thing.


What's the deal with Reaper here?
OMG! DON'T YOU SEE?!

HE KILLED BATMAN'S PARENTS!!!!!!
 

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theevilgenius60 said:
erttheking said:
theevilgenius60 said:
My reaction: Whooooooo gives a shit?
You can find around a dozen people in this thread. Is that a serious question, or are you trying to pretend that your opinion is the majority?
theevilgenius60 said:
The only people who care about this are Waifu Warriors and Rule 34 artists.
Classy.
Not meant to be classy, just as a flip remark, but tell me. Other than those two groups, who would really care?
These bizarre little groups called "people who just really like the idea." I like it and I care. So am I a rule 34 artist or a waifu warrior?
 

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Waifu nowadays just means "favorite female character" so I see nothing wrong with the term. Having favorite chars is great.


I wouldn't bother being self conscious by all snide implied remarks that some choose to read into the term such as people forgoing relationships or masturbating to the characters and what have you. Whoever takes that out of it was someone who you likely could never get along all that well with anyways.
 

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Wow, incredible. Someone wrote a story for an online shooter. Fascinating.

What, one of the characters is gay... who gives a shit? Gay or not, backstory of any kind or just the neutral mask... they only exist to get shot 57 times and die over and over and over and over. Giving a shooter a story, neat I guess but does it change the fact that struggle is ultimately pointless because everyone is immortal and the fights are just makework for iron and lead manufacturers? Kind of like in Titanfall where the war only exists to prop up the titan manufacturing industry on a steady diet of cloned soldier corpses. A story for an online shooter. I finally found something even more worthless than the story in a vs fighter.
 

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Kyrian007 said:
Wow, incredible. Someone wrote a story for an online shooter. Fascinating.

What, one of the characters is gay... who gives a shit? Gay or not, backstory of any kind or just the neutral mask... they only exist to get shot 57 times and die over and over and over and over. Giving a shooter a story, neat I guess but does it change the fact that struggle is ultimately pointless because everyone is immortal and the fights are just makework for iron and lead manufacturers? Kind of like in Titanfall where the war only exists to prop up the titan manufacturing industry on a steady diet of cloned soldier corpses. A story for an online shooter. I finally found something even more worthless than the story in a vs fighter.
Generally in games like this, the backstory serves one of two purposes, to give context to the setting, i.e. worldbuilding, or to build attachment to the characters.

In Overwatch's case, they do both, in this case its mostly the latter, and given the enthusiasm, fan art, cosplay, and excitement surrounding the characters, there are a lot of people that do care. Sort of like how there is a significant number of people that haven't played TF2 but still swarm all over Youtuve whenever Valve posts a new TF2 character video.

People love the characters in this particular Blizzard property, and want to see more of them, shorts, comics, cosplay, fan art, etc. etc. etc. There is demand, very fervent demand, and Blizzard wants to meet it.

If nothing else it can't hurt, between two identical shooter games, where one has fleshed out characters and interesting worldbuilding, and the other does not, the former will almost always attract more people, story and setting may not matter to you for a game like this, but Overwatch and TF2 serve as good examples that people do care about that kind of thing.
 

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EternallyBored said:
Kyrian007 said:
Wow, incredible. Someone wrote a story for an online shooter. Fascinating.

What, one of the characters is gay... who gives a shit? Gay or not, backstory of any kind or just the neutral mask... they only exist to get shot 57 times and die over and over and over and over. Giving a shooter a story, neat I guess but does it change the fact that struggle is ultimately pointless because everyone is immortal and the fights are just makework for iron and lead manufacturers? Kind of like in Titanfall where the war only exists to prop up the titan manufacturing industry on a steady diet of cloned soldier corpses. A story for an online shooter. I finally found something even more worthless than the story in a vs fighter.
Generally in games like this, the backstory serves one of two purposes, to give context to the setting, i.e. worldbuilding, or to build attachment to the characters.

In Overwatch's case, they do both, in this case its mostly the latter, and given the enthusiasm, fan art, cosplay, and excitement surrounding the characters, there are a lot of people that do care. Sort of like how there is a significant number of people that haven't played TF2 but still swarm all over Youtuve whenever Valve posts a new TF2 character video.

People love the characters in this particular Blizzard property, and want to see more of them, shorts, comics, cosplay, fan art, etc. etc. etc. There is demand, very fervent demand, and Blizzard wants to meet it.

If nothing else it can't hurt, between two identical shooter games, where one has fleshed out characters and interesting worldbuilding, and the other does not, the former will almost always attract more people, story and setting may not matter to you for a game like this, but Overwatch and TF2 serve as good examples that people do care about that kind of thing.
Yeah, that's why I said "Neat, I guess." Didn't say it couldn't be entertaining... lots of pointless things are funny. Red vs Blue is a thing. It makes meta jokes about being in an online shooter and can on rare occasions be kind of entertaining. But just like Tracer being gay doesn't actually change anything about the game in real terms... neither does anything anyone writes in a comic.
 

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MrCalavera said:
Wouldn't care much normally, but the fact that Widow isn't her gf should generate that extra amount of salt. IDK, maybe it's a weird kind of schadenfreude, but i like when shippers get butthurt about these things.

Ezekiel said:
But I wonder what this will do to all the porn of her.
Pal, i can assure you, characters' established sexuality means nothing to porn artists.
If that is the case, then my yuri anime female characters wouldn't be kept pure out of respect to the girl. Not to mention actual homosexuality in anime tends to scare off fujoshi.
 

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Kyrian007 said:
Yeah, that's why I said "Neat, I guess." Didn't say it couldn't be entertaining... lots of pointless things are funny. Red vs Blue is a thing. It makes meta jokes about being in an online shooter and can on rare occasions be kind of entertaining. But just like Tracer being gay doesn't actually change anything about the game in real terms... neither does anything anyone writes in a comic.
If we are going to go that route, then the game itself doesn't change the comic, so for someone more interested in the characters than the gameplay, then the game is itself just "neat I guess". The ancillary comics aren't really any more or less pointless than the game itself. The game is a semi-competitive shooter that people derive enjoyment from, likewise, the comic is ancillary material that you can derive enjoyment from, just like the game itself.

Tracer being gay doesn't change anything about the game, except some peoples perception of the character, for some it means nothing, for others, they enjoy the expanded lore or character building, or just like the slice of life setting of something like this, its all about enjoyment, both the game and the comic serve roughly the same purpose: entertainment.

It changes nothing about the game for you, for other people it does matter, and they appreciate that Blizzard tries to build a world around its shooter game, for them it does effect the game, because part of their enjoyment of the game comes from their enthusiasm for the characters, or setting, or worldbuilding.
 

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The comic was nice, whats the problem?

Who cares what someone's orientation is? Does everyone have to be straight or something?
 

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erttheking said:
theevilgenius60 said:
erttheking said:
theevilgenius60 said:
My reaction: Whooooooo gives a shit?
You can find around a dozen people in this thread. Is that a serious question, or are you trying to pretend that your opinion is the majority?
theevilgenius60 said:
The only people who care about this are Waifu Warriors and Rule 34 artists.
Classy.
Not meant to be classy, just as a flip remark, but tell me. Other than those two groups, who would really care?
These bizarre little groups called "people who just really like the idea." I like it and I care. So am I a rule 34 artist or a waifu warrior?
Like it all you want, my point was that the people all booty blasted about it required a reason. Those are the only two I could think of. Liking it? There's several reasons I can think of for that
 

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This isn't news to me.

Tracer/Widowmaker is easily the most popular pairing that I - *cough* - "other people" have observed, second hand, on the internet, in a professional manner and from a safe and dignified distance.