Tracer from Overwatch Confirmed as a Lesbian.

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EternallyBored said:
Then the game itself doesn't change the comic, so for someone more interested in the characters than the gameplay, then the game is itself just "neat I guess". The ancillary comics aren't really any more or less pointless than the game itself.
Yes, that one. That's the point I was getting at. For me shooters are fun for a short time (in my case a round or two) then dropped and forgotten. Like their stories. Like vs. fighters. And it matters as much to me as much as someone's preference. Very little to none.
 

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People get very passionate about video games, and I think it's important to take a step back and acknowledge that what is important to gamers is not a one-size-fits-all shoe. While many might react to this as "it's stupid romance crap with no bearing on gameplay, who cares" for many, the aspects of narrative, character building, and romance are of critical importance. It's easy to say that one gamer's worthless fluff, is another gamer's sole reason for playing, although neither stances alone encompass all possible viewpoints. We do no favors to anyone by reducing a section of a fanbase down to some witty insult. People develop attachments to fictitious characters across all media, and care about what happens to them, and the relationships they have, and when something unexpected happens to a character they care about, they have strong reactions. I have no doubt there may be some rather base homophobic rejections to this particular case, but I also think that it's just as likely that people are having a strong reaction because the character's canon is a major departure from their expectation, and in a game like Overwatch where diverse characters are so prevalent, the shipping community is bound to be rather attached to it's many possibilities for establishing their own "one true pairing", and to have any pairing canonized is bound to have backlash. Overall it's a healthy symptom of a franchise that is doing something interesting.
 

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Sheesh, imagine if people realised that, say, the ranger from Path of Exile was a lesbian. I wonder what would happen then.

...actually, as far as I know nothing much happened. I'm not entirely sure why this requires that much publicity and apparently outrage.
 
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DoPo said:
Sheesh, imagine if people realised that, say, the ranger from Path of Exile was a lesbian. I wonder what would happen then.

...actually, as far as I know nothing much happened. I'm not entirely sure why this requires that much publicity and apparently outrage.
I'm guessing that's because no one really knows who "the ranger from path of exile" is, and they consequently don't give a shit. Tracer is million peoples' waifu.

It's the difference between "Insert super famous and recogniseable hollywood starlet from this year's runaway blockbuster movie here" and "insert actor for that minor character from that TV show you half remember from last year" is gay.

I suppose you know this and yours was some sort of "who gives a shit" comment, but I felt I'd do the take it literally thing and post an answer to your indirect question because I'm bored.
 

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theevilgenius60 said:
erttheking said:
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My reaction: Whooooooo gives a shit?
You can find around a dozen people in this thread. Is that a serious question, or are you trying to pretend that your opinion is the majority?
theevilgenius60 said:
The only people who care about this are Waifu Warriors and Rule 34 artists.
Classy.
Not meant to be classy, just as a flip remark, but tell me. Other than those two groups, who would really care?
These bizarre little groups called "people who just really like the idea." I like it and I care. So am I a rule 34 artist or a waifu warrior?
Like it all you want, my point was that the people all booty blasted about it required a reason. Those are the only two I could think of. Liking it? There's several reasons I can think of for that
That's not what you said. What you said was "the only people who care about this are-" And as I said, I care. Hell, plenty of people in this thread care. We think it's a good direction for the game.
 

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Wouldn't care much normally, but the fact that Widow isn't her gf should generate that extra amount of salt. IDK, maybe it's a weird kind of schadenfreude, but i like when shippers get butthurt about these things.

Ezekiel said:
But I wonder what this will do to all the porn of her.
Pal, i can assure you, characters' established sexuality means nothing to porn artists.
Well, I've seen some yuri art of her.
But I don't think I've seen anything explicit. Most of it is straight porn. I'm looking forward to it.
You, sir, haven't been looking hard enough. :^)
 

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maybe I missed something but could Tracer always remove the chest piece? Wasn't that the only thing keeping her from phasing out of time and reality?
 
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Ezekiel said:
MrCalavera said:
Wouldn't care much normally, but the fact that Widow isn't her gf should generate that extra amount of salt. IDK, maybe it's a weird kind of schadenfreude, but i like when shippers get butthurt about these things.

Ezekiel said:
But I wonder what this will do to all the porn of her.
Pal, i can assure you, characters' established sexuality means nothing to porn artists.
Well, I've seen some yuri art of her.
But I don't think I've seen anything explicit. Most of it is straight porn. I'm looking forward to it.
I think i saw that artwork before. Before Blizzard announced Tracer being gay. So yeah, i'm sure straight porn and Widow shipping will continue as well, along with lewd drawings of Tracer and her official girlfriend.
 

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Well put indeed.
I hate to use the term 'normal' because it galvanizes anyone not under that umbrella, but same with me with heterosexual sexuality. I just assume heterosexual, because its the statistically more likely sexuality, but in the event of a homosexual relationship(regardless of gender), I just shrug as well. Neat. How does it add to the gameplay, etc...

But I guess that's prejudice? Technically? Pre-judging? Anyway, I'll stop worrying about the implied sexuality of a fictional character of a game I don't play.
I don't assume, but I go with who makes the cutest ships. :p

It is prejudice. It wasn't implied but rather outright showed.
 

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Hell, plenty of people in this thread care. We think it's a good direction for the game.
As a True Gamer Extraordinaire I can't even fathom this perspective. How can something that doesn't have anything to do with the game be a good direction for the game? This is the sort of thrash I'd expect in the back of a cereal package - that just screams skewed priorities to me. However, I'm pretty confident Blizzard knows how to keep the supplementary shit separate from the gameplay crap. Just... blows my mind every time.
 

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GZGoten said:
maybe I missed something but could Tracer always remove the chest piece? Wasn't that the only thing keeping her from pashing out of time and reality?
As per Blizzard, it's hanging out on the floor.

Technically, it just has to be nearby. She wears it on her chest in combat because she zips around like a caffeinated ferret.
 

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McElroy said:
erttheking said:
Hell, plenty of people in this thread care. We think it's a good direction for the game.
As a True Gamer Extraordinaire I can't even fathom this perspective. How can something that doesn't have anything to do with the game be a good direction for the game? This is the sort of thrash I'd expect in the back of a cereal package - that just screams skewed priorities to me. However, I'm pretty confident Blizzard knows how to keep the supplementary shit separate from the gameplay crap. Just... blows my mind every time.
Tracer has, for lack of a better word, become iconic. Hell, I'd ever say that she's the face of Overwatch. And for all it's focus on nonsensical people killing three clones of themselves, this IS a character based shooter, much like TF2. And like TF2, those characters are the main draw for a vast number of people. As a result, people care about the characters and want to know more about them.

But I'm probably not going to change your mind on this, so what the hoo-ha.
 

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GZGoten said:
maybe I missed something but could Tracer always remove the chest piece? Wasn't that the only thing keeping her from pashing out of time and reality?
That is the real shake up for the shippers and porn artists. It totally changes the game.
 

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I don't really get people being either mad or happy about this... It doesn't affect anything.
 

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altnameJag said:
GZGoten said:
maybe I missed something but could Tracer always remove the chest piece? Wasn't that the only thing keeping her from pashing out of time and reality?
As per Blizzard, it's hanging out on the floor.

Technically, it just has to be nearby. She wears it on her chest in combat because she zips around like a caffeinated ferret.
oh, so it's more of a signal she receives from it rather than a machine she has to wear... wait no. At the end of the comic we see her at Winston's place and the chest piece is nowhere in sight. Is it a christmas miracle or is Emily charged with the same energy as she seems to be the only thing that appears both times she takes it off.
 

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GZGoten said:
altnameJag said:
GZGoten said:
maybe I missed something but could Tracer always remove the chest piece? Wasn't that the only thing keeping her from pashing out of time and reality?
As per Blizzard, it's hanging out on the floor.

Technically, it just has to be nearby. She wears it on her chest in combat because she zips around like a caffeinated ferret.
oh, so it's more of a signal she receives from it rather than a machine she has to wear... wait no. At the end of the comic we see her at Winston's place and the chest piece is nowhere in sight. Is it a christmas miracle or is Emily charged with the same energy as she seems to be the only thing that appears both times she takes it off.
Orb-y thing by the tree.
 

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Orb-y thing by the tree.
in their apartment yes I see it being charged. But what about at Winston's place?
How did she get there without it?
 

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Kyrian007 said:
EternallyBored said:
Then the game itself doesn't change the comic, so for someone more interested in the characters than the gameplay, then the game is itself just "neat I guess". The ancillary comics aren't really any more or less pointless than the game itself.
Yes, that one. That's the point I was getting at. For me shooters are fun for a short time (in my case a round or two) then dropped and forgotten. Like their stories. Like vs. fighters. And it matters as much to me as much as someone's preference. Very little to none.
Your personal preference is fine, if it doesn't matter to you that's a-ok, I've had games where I didn't give one shit about the story and just picked it up for the gameplay, or vice versa, I haven't played TF2 in 3 years, but I still watch all of Valve's short films when they are released as I like the characters.

I was mainly answering your question of "who gives a shit?" which turns out, quite a lot of people give a shit. You build a game with characters as popular as the ones in Overwatch, and it turns out people want to see and know more about those characters. If you don't care, then you've still got a pretty solid online shooter to entertain you, if you do care, then you've got ancillary materials to help enhance your enjoyment of said online shooter.
 

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Zykon TheLich said:
DoPo said:
Sheesh, imagine if people realised that, say, the ranger from Path of Exile was a lesbian. I wonder what would happen then.

...actually, as far as I know nothing much happened. I'm not entirely sure why this requires that much publicity and apparently outrage.
I'm guessing that's because no one really knows who "the ranger from path of exile" is, and they consequently don't give a shit. Tracer is million peoples' waifu.
The playerbase of Path of Exile is between hundreds of thousands and millions [footnote]they've registrations in the single digit millions, apparently, but most likely that doesn't corresponds to that many players[/footnote] and pretty much everybody who has played the game would have seen the ranger - she's one of the playable characters. So no, it's not really "no one". With that said, it was just an example - could be any other character.

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It's the difference between "Insert super famous and recogniseable hollywood starlet from this year's runaway blockbuster movie here" and "insert actor for that minor character from that TV show you half remember from last year" is gay.
Right. That doesn't explain the need for a bigger publicity and apparent outrage. Yes, somebody is gay - tell me, does that really justify two separate threads and an entire news article on this website? At the time or writing this There almost a hundred comments in this thread and even more across the other two. This alone is a bigger deal than a bunch of studios being closed after the employees hadn't been paid for months. Again, just an example - I picked a different recent news article.

So, to recap - a character is gay in Overwatch and that's apparently A. Big. Deal., however, characters in other games don't deserve any outrage or any mention. It's also more important than something that has real-world consequences to hundreds of people and a ripple effect through the gaming industry as a whole.

This isn't a "who gives a shit" post. It's a "why do people flip their shit over this" post.