Transformers 2 Writers Explain Why it Sucked

[Mister Linton]

Personally, I kinda like that the military get as involved as they do in the Transformers films. The Decepticons aren't defeated by a computer virus, or a stupid macguffin like water, or a small child accidentally flying a fighter into their control ship. If aliens came to Earth, I strongly believe the military would put up a hell of a fight.

 

[Siege_TF]

Personally, I kinda like that the military get as involved as they do in the Transformers films. The Decepticons aren't defeated by a computer virus, or a stupid macguffin like water, or a small child accidentally flying a fighter into their control ship. If aliens came to Earth, I strongly believe the military would put up a hell of a fight.

The Mayans put up a hell of a fight against the Spaniards, but were still horribly outclassed because of the tech gap. Don't you think this should apply to Transformers as well? Most of our modern tech is based off of what we gleaned from Megatron himself, which is why The Allspark was animating SUVs and Mountain Dew machines, and why their first reaction was to attack everything in sight, but it also means that whatever we had to fight the Decepticons would probably pale in comparison to what they had at their disposal. But in the second movie it looked like the Military with the help of four or five Autobots were about to beat back the Decepticons until The Fallen showed up.

 

[Azaraxzealot]

Was I the only person who thought Transformers 2 was really Awsome?
It had tons of action and explosions, and robot killing each other.
Not movie of the year but still really good.

I thought of this movie like I do an action game. That means I don't care what the story is and I just want to get straight into the action.

But the action sucked. It was poorly choreographed, inexpertly shot, ugly, difficult to follow, and pointless. There was no tension or sense of purpose or danger. I swear during the fight where Optimus "died" I just quit trying to figure out who the hell was doing what and spaced out.

And just when you started to care about what was going on in the action, they'd cut to captain douchebag running like a sissy, or slutdog McGee doing... something... with that damn thing in her purse. Or one of the comic relief characters doing something racially offensive. Or they'd make a dick joke that wouldn't make a 12 year-old chuckle.

I get so tired of people saying this movie was good "because of robots fighting and stuff".

I could make more interesting, more exciting action sequences with some fireworks and gasoline in my back yard.

us critics and "intellectuals" can say all we want about why it sucked. we can go into explicit detail, say all of it was "poorly choreographed" and "has bad cinematography" and how there are actual racist stereotypes and it has "poor acting"... but the average joe is only going to see "robots and explosions with megan fox, yo!"

and really? that's all they'll care about. i should know, my entire family and fiance's family are EXACTLY like that. easily amused.

 

[Darth_Dude]

Dark of the Moon? Really?

They couldnt come up with a better title?

 

[Tyler Meiburg]

writing was only half the problem, the REAL problem was this: 2 words, Michael Bay

 

[Saltyk]

Was I the only person who thought Transformers 2 was really Awsome?
It had tons of action and explosions, and robot killing each other.
Not movie of the year but still really good.

I enjoyed it. There were a few moments that I thought were stupid (the balls joke), but I enjoyed it just fine. One of the few movies that I actually could let my brain take a vacation, and enjoy.

But hey, I hated movies like Meet the Parents, and only started enjoying School of Rock about halfway in. So take that how you will.

 

[A Curious Fellow]

I would believe that was the real culprit if the first Transformers had been better.

 

[Truehare]

So what was the excuse for the first movie?

There, I read the first post and already have nothing else to add to this discussion...

 

[UltimatheChosen]

Was I the only person who thought Transformers 2 was really Awsome?
It had tons of action and explosions, and robot killing each other.
Not movie of the year but still really good.

I enjoyed it, too.

It wasn't one of my favorite movies of all time, but it wasn't supposed to be.

 

[Aethin]

Was I the only person who thought Transformers 2 was really Awsome?
It had tons of action and explosions, and robot killing each other.
Not movie of the year but still really good.

Yeah there was plenty of good with the movie. The first transformers wasn't that story heavy either. I guess it's just something that comes part of the series.

Think about it this way. If the directors had actually worked a story into it, there would be more lulls in the timeline and we wouldn't see as much action. Standing how it is, the movie was pure action. Yes it wasn't perfect, but I enjoyed it immensely for what it offered and it quite deserved it's large profit.

 

[Stevepinto3]

Does anyone else think the Transformers just look like crap? They look like moving junkyards.

They have so many shadows and separate pieces that just looking at them strains my eyes, there is nothing to focus on. It's hard to tell at times if their bodies are even humanoid in shape.

 

[Andy of Comix Inc]

The movie sucked because it was a Michael Bay film. It was also a poorly-written slock-fest with terrible humour and acting, that turkey-slapped Transformers fans and newcomers alike just by existing.

Did I mention it was a Michael bay film?

 

[moviedork]

I actually not one of those geeks that shit on a movies because they "rape" a childhood. I accept it for what it is and make up my mind if I enjoy it or not. The first Transformers is a really enjoyable popcorn flick, nothing more.

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

Fuck you. You make horrible movies that cater to idiots and yes, I stand by that. Who the hell could watch the flabbergast that was the first and second Transformer movie and say it was "decent" or "enjoyable"? So many people say the action was good but seriously, fuck them.

The Escapist when it comes to Michael Bay in a nutshell, ladies and gentlemen.

If you thought the first Transformers was good fun and could overlook the painful jokes and some of the main actors, fuck you.

If you like Bad Boys or The Rock, two movies that a lot of people like, fuck you.

I suggest you take your elitism and stuff it, go watch the original cartoon and think about how Bay destroyed your childhood and how much you're better than people who enjoyed those two movies.

 

[WaReloaded]

Was I the only person who thought Transformers 2 was really Awsome?
It had tons of action and explosions, and robot killing each other.
Not movie of the year but still really good.

I also enjoyed Transformers 2. Sure it wasn't the greatest film I've ever seen but it was a great way to kill almost 3 hours. It's dumb fun.

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

Bay knows this. He knows we're just after the sfx, and he delivers.

No, ILM (who are gods among men) delivered the SFX, and did so with their usual amount of being fucking incredible, but a good narrative shouldn't be considered a luxury in a major motion picture.

 

[tehweave]

So what was the excuse for the first movie?

I love you.

In all seriousness, "Transformers 2 writers explain why it sucked: Two words. MICHAEL BAY."

Yes, the man has created some fun movies (Friday the 13th reboot, Bad Boys 2) but for the most part, makes incredibly overdone action films that are more stupid than anything else. And anything that can go as an adaptation (Transformers) or historical epic (Pearl Harbor) pretty much dies in his hand.

He's not a bad director, mind. I watch his movies and understand WHAT he's trying to do. He's a competent director to say the least. The movies look good, the music is usually well organized and written, and the editors and cinematographers he hires do their jobs well.

The. Writing. Always. Always. ALWAYS. SUCKS. A. HOOGE. CHUB. I can even go further! The plot is understandable. The stories might be cliche, but they're in some way fun. The way he falls? In every movie he's ever done? Two things: One, pacing. Two, characters.

I've NEVER cared about any character in any film he's directed, and the pacing in most of them is either too slow (Pearl Harbor) or an adrenaline junkie trying cocaine, speed, and caffeine for the first time. While on a rollercoaster. (Bad Boys 2, Armageddon) Not only that, if he does an adaptation, he makes it about the 2 dimensional characters nobody gives a flying fuck about, and NOT the ones that, you know, MAKE UP THE ADAPTATION! (Transformers - all of them) The transformers movies might just be called:

"Teen Angst, Patriotism, and the Dumb but Heroic Military The Movie: We occasionally see big robots."

Somebody stop him. Please. If not, then BRING HIM BETTER SCRIPTS!!! DEVELOP CHARACTERS MORE AND PUT A HAPPY-MEDIUM ON YOUR PACING! Or, just don't bother and speak to Speilberg or Bruckheimer. They have terrible movies too, but the good outweigh the bad.

 

[Korusho]

No, I loved it because it was Transformers, The whole analyzing the quality of the flick didn't matter to me when I saw it... I was all 'HOLY F*#(, ACTION!'
GIANT ROBOTS FIGHTING, WHO GIVES A F^(% ABOUT THE STORY.

This was pretty much my opinoin throughout the movie. Don't care about the story, I wanna watch Optimus rip some Decepticons to tiny metal shreds.

 

[Alon Shechter]

Personally, I enjoyed the movie except one thing.
Megan Fox.
The Muppet Show has better actors than her, and they are Godamn DOLLS.

 

[putowtin]

So what was the excuse for the first movie?

*Drum Crash* wonderful! Just wonderful!

Thanks for making my day