Transmogrify Your Armor in WoW

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ZeroDotZero said:
FlameAx said:
I think its also worth mentioning that 4.3 is the last patch of this expansions , as in the deathwing fight
I am pretty sure there is at least one more patch before Deathwing. War of the Ancients patch, with the new CoT raid.
War of the Ancients CoT Raid?
Why didn't you tell me about this sooner.
Consider my account reactivated. I need to catch up on gear and join a raid guild before this is out.

OT: Hell, it's about time, Blizzard! I've been asking for this on your forums since Vanilla WoW.
 

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Warhammer online did this before WoW successfully. But it was free via just sticking the piece you wanted to steal the look from in a secondary slot for that piece. And you could dye your armour whatever colour you liked, though some dyes were quite rare and expensive. WoW seems to want to do this, but then make you pay. What the fuck blizzard?
 

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Greg Tito said:
The price of switching appearance doesn't look cheap. The screenshots show an orc transmogrifying a piece of armor for almost 120 gold. Granted, that's piddling change to people who raid constantly but decking out your whole outfit will set you back a not insubstantial amount of gold.
That screenshot looks like he is transforming about 6 different things.

Coincidentally, the reforge cost for those items would be about the same combined. Regorging being the ability to convert 40% of a secondary stat into another secondary stat not already on said item.

Therefore, it's more likely to either cost the same as a reforge or they are just using reforge values in their alpha testing for the pricing.

The_root_of_all_evil said:
Ah Blizzard, charging people for what other games include as standard. No wonder you're rolling in money.
..what? Did you even read the news post?
 
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Baneat said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
Ah Blizzard, charging people for what other games include as standard. No wonder you're rolling in money.
..what? Did you even read the news post?
Very carefully in fact.

The screenshots show an orc transmogrifying a piece of armor for almost 120 gold. Granted, that's piddling change to people who raid constantly but decking out your whole outfit will set you back a not insubstantial amount of gold.
So there's the timesink set up to restart the in-game economy.

Blizzard also expects Transmogrification will increase demand for bag space in banks and on your person because it will be necessary to keep all of the old items if you want your new stuff to be transmogrified to look like it. Bashiok promised this would be alleviate with another new feature - Void Storage - but we'll have to wait until tomorrow to find out more about that.
And there's the feature that will be "available at a price".

Blizzard don't have to take real money to gain real money anymore, they just have to keep the long-term players timesinking so they renew their subscription.

This is something that's been asked for, by even the hardcore fans, since conception. Seems odd that it's being rolled out now.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Baneat said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
Ah Blizzard, charging people for what other games include as standard. No wonder you're rolling in money.
..what? Did you even read the news post?
Very carefully in fact.

The screenshots show an orc transmogrifying a piece of armor for almost 120 gold. Granted, that's piddling change to people who raid constantly but decking out your whole outfit will set you back a not insubstantial amount of gold.
So there's the timesink set up to restart the in-game economy.

Blizzard also expects Transmogrification will increase demand for bag space in banks and on your person because it will be necessary to keep all of the old items if you want your new stuff to be transmogrified to look like it. Bashiok promised this would be alleviate with another new feature - Void Storage - but we'll have to wait until tomorrow to find out more about that.
And there's the feature that will be "available at a price".

Blizzard don't have to take real money to gain real money anymore, they just have to keep the long-term players timesinking so they renew their subscription.

This is something that's been asked for, by even the hardcore fans, since conception. Seems odd that it's being rolled out now.
Ah, it appeared that you thought transmogrification cost real money, but you're just guessing the void storage will cost real money?

Well, as I said, I don't think it'll cost 120g per item but if it does, and there are 8 pieces I want to change that's 1K which honestly isn't that expensive, especially since it's optional unlike enchantments.
 
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Baneat said:
Ah, it appeared that you thought transmogrification cost real money, but you're just guessing the void storage will cost real money?
I'm very careful around the Hardcore WoW fans ;)
Well, as I said, I don't think it'll cost 120g per item but if it does, and there are 8 pieces I want to change that's 1K which honestly isn't that expensive, especially since it's optional unlike enchantments.
But that's for one set. Back in the EQ days, we'd often bot each others characters if we needed an extra Tank/Healbot for a raid, and the running joke was dyeing all their armour pink to do it. That was 42plat 8gold for each the pieces, chump change to anyone over level 40.

Dyeing it back was quite tough. Because it required all of your original colours, and the dye reagents, and there's not a lot of room to carry all of that. (This was back in 2000 odd)

LotRo has the feature where you can slip in the armour you look like and the armour you're actually wearing as standard. No extra space required. (2007)

Now, it really doesn't matter if Void Space costs anything, you'll have players up until the 4.3 logging back in to ready themselves for something that's been promised since WoW Beta, 2004.

They COULD have slipped it in with Cataclysm pretty easily, or Wrath, or Burning...but instead of having a "finish in 6 hours" campaign, why not a Tailoring expansion? You're talking 2 months extra, say, per character to get all the gold/what they want to look like/showing off, etc.

And you imagine how well this is gonna go down in all of the RP/Furry/Cyber locations. That's a lot of extra RL money coming their way.
 

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So you need to own the set you want to have the appearance of? Meaning you'll have to grind sets again to get them just to make your new set that you also grinded to get look like it.

Good idea but the time and money required just to make your armour look different just doesn't seem worth it
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Baneat said:
Ah, it appeared that you thought transmogrification cost real money, but you're just guessing the void storage will cost real money?
I'm very careful around the Hardcore WoW fans ;)
Well, as I said, I don't think it'll cost 120g per item but if it does, and there are 8 pieces I want to change that's 1K which honestly isn't that expensive, especially since it's optional unlike enchantments.
But that's for one set. Back in the EQ days, we'd often bot each others characters if we needed an extra Tank/Healbot for a raid, and the running joke was dyeing all their armour pink to do it. That was 42plat 8gold for each the pieces, chump change to anyone over level 40.

Dyeing it back was quite tough. Because it required all of your original colours, and the dye reagents, and there's not a lot of room to carry all of that. (This was back in 2000 odd)

LotRo has the feature where you can slip in the armour you look like and the armour you're actually wearing as standard. No extra space required. (2007)

Now, it really doesn't matter if Void Space costs anything, you'll have players up until the 4.3 logging back in to ready themselves for something that's been promised since WoW Beta, 2004.

They COULD have slipped it in with Cataclysm pretty easily, or Wrath, or Burning...but instead of having a "finish in 6 hours" campaign, why not a Tailoring expansion? You're talking 2 months extra, say, per character to get all the gold/what they want to look like/showing off, etc.

And you imagine how well this is gonna go down in all of the RP/Furry/Cyber locations. That's a lot of extra RL money coming their way.
I'm just curious where the 2 months figure comes from? Plus the RP/Cyber/Furry thing you're referring to - Some secret underground I'm not aware of.. hidden deep within IronForge or something?

I have 3 85's which together have 7 specs, to transform all of them would be 8K roughly. Now you're talking decent money but I bought a pair of bracers the other week for that, one pair of bracers for 8K for one spec. And, guess, I'm not transforming all 7 specs, I'll change my retribution, protection, restoration and rogue sets and leave the others, which are "offspecs".

Also: When was this feature promised? I know people have asked for it, but when did blizzard say it was something they were putting into the game? People have asked for all sorts of things that cost way less than this to implement (For one, let me just have a glyph that makes me a perma-tree plz :( ) for a long time, but that means little.

I'm just finding it hard to be pessimistic about the addition of this feature, especially since it's from a different team than the one that do the PvE content, and will lead to more character variety, less mish-mash gearing and cause people to run the older raids in smaller groups to get the aesthetic gear pieces. I'm pretty pleased with all that, especially since I can take the awful daggers they make and switch it for something like they had pre-expansion, i.e the daggers are daggers and not shortswords (With the shortswords looking like hand-and-a-half swords).

No, if something's to be pissed about it's the awful state of PvP and the fact that they said they would frequently add more raiding content, not that I get to piss about playing dress-up (MANLY dress-up)

Naxx(12)>Ulduar(12)>ToC(5)>Icc(12)>RS10(1)+EoE(1)+Ony(1)

Hm... The next patch will be the final tier.

t11(12)>FL(7)>Deathwing's raid(?)

More frequent my ass.
 
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Baneat said:
I'm just curious where the 2 months figure comes from?
Estimation. Given the little I know.
Plus the RP/Cyber/Furry thing you're referring to - Some secret underground I'm not aware of.. hidden deep within IronForge or something?
I'm sure some WoW person will let me know. Where all the Tauren's do sexeh dance and swap slash.

I have 3 85's which together have 7 specs, to transform all of them would be 8K roughly. Now you're talking decent money but I bought a pair of bracers the other week for that, one pair of bracers for 8K for one spec. And, guess, I'm not transforming all 7 specs, I'll change my retribution, protection, restoration and rogue sets and leave the others, which are "offspecs".
No idea what you said here.
Also: When was this feature promised? I know people have asked for it, but when did blizzard say it was something they were putting into the game? People have asked for all sorts of things that cost way less than this to implement (For one, let me just have a glyph that makes me a perma-tree plz :( ) for a long time, but that means little.
Character customization? I've heard of people asking it since they were trying out the Beta.
I'm just finding it hard to be pessimistic about the addition of this feature, especially since it's from a different team than the one that do the PvE content, and will lead to more character variety, less mish-mash gearing and cause people to run the older raids in smaller groups to get the aesthetic gear pieces. I'm pretty pleased with all that, especially since I can take the awful daggers they make and switch it for something like they had pre-expansion, i.e the daggers are daggers and not shortswords (With the shortswords looking like hand-and-a-half swords).
But it's a feature that should have been in years ago. Every other MMO does it.
No, if something's to be pissed about it's the awful state of PvP and the fact that they said they would frequently add more raiding content, not that I get to piss about playing dress-up (MANLY dress-up)
That's for WoW fans. I'm just saying that it's a very odd time to be adding customization.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Baneat said:
I'm just curious where the 2 months figure comes from?
Estimation. Given the little I know.
Oh ok 1000g is very little, I have 60K without even trying. If you wanted to change all your pieces it would take you no longer than an hour to get the gold required, and that's through one of the worst methods (flying about gathering herbs or mining ore for an hour)

Honestly this goes a little further than dying your armour, something I'm quite accustomed to from Guild Wars. This lets you use that armour set you like without having to sacrifice stats to do so.
 

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So...why didn't they just introduce an actual wardrobe system? Far easier, no arbitrary spending of money, and easier to manage. This still has the same issue where whenever the next raid cluster comes out you'll need the new gear and then you'll have to transmogrify that. This just seems like a poorly-done implementation of what other MMOs have.
 

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Caveat: I've played WoW off and on since beta and as recently as two months ago. I enjoy the game, and still buy everything blizzard makes.

Good job finally including this. Horrible implementation. LoTRo, WAR, SWG have all implemented appearance tabs in some way. All are better. This is a big money sink that is useless while levelling. A level 15 gets almost nothing from this.

Good work, but look at what's out there and learn from it....
 

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lumenadducere said:
So...why didn't they just introduce an actual wardrobe system? Far easier, no arbitrary spending of money, and easier to manage. This still has the same issue where whenever the next raid cluster comes out you'll need the new gear and then you'll have to transmogrify that. This just seems like a poorly-done implementation of what other MMOs have.
Which is the point.
gold sinks are needed in any in game economy to keep it balanced. further more, this supports the concept of Go out and explore this world again.

plenty of people have favorate peices of gear from old raids that they've long ago sold or destroyed... which means that if players acctually want that then they have to acctually go out and do said raids, re-experience that old content, and spend more time in game in order to get the items they want from old content so they can use it in new content asthetically.
 

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It's nice, but honestly, I've seen far better implementations of stuff like this. Spiral Knights, for instance, gives you a costume slot for each piece of armor. I'm not gonna be giving Blizz praise for something that should've been implemented a while ago IMO. Granted, I really haven't payed much attention to WoW at all since I stopped playing.
 

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It sounds kind of cool, and I liked the version in LOTRO (Which is basically this system without paying).
Honestly I kind of wish more MMO's would do this because some armors may have better stats, but look horrible.
 

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manythings said:
If it's purely cosmetic why charge for it?
Because in lore, or in the game, a service is being provided by an Ethereal. The same can be asked of the Barbershop. The answer is the same as the pets: People want something that they consider their own, knowing that someone else doesn't have it.
 

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Of course, about two patches AFTER I quit they add this feature. I can only imagine how much people are going to be farming old raids for all that armor. Within a few months every paladin is going to be walking around wearing the old Judgement set.

That would actually be really funny to watch now that I think about it. There are going to be 25 man MC raids consisting entirely of Paladins, all of them arguing over who gets the drops.