Ubisoft Kills Ghost Recon: Future Soldier on PC

[Corran006]

I guess we should just not buy the new Creed game on PC than. I have a feeling that will be the last one on PC given their new direction.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

Does this constant blaming of PC Gamers kind of remind people of the olden days of screaming, "Witch" while bringing out some poor innocent soul to go roast on a stick because someone got the sniffles?

Nope, nor does it remind me of Nazi Germany, McCarthy era USA, the White Australia Policy, the Great Leap Forward, Stalin's Purges, The Crusades, various South and Central American Death Squads, Apartheid South Africa, the Atlantic Slave Trade, Internment Era Northern Ireland, or when Spock died.

It's just some company acting like a sack of cocks.

 

[Doc Cannon]

I would have expected this from Epic... but Ubisoft? I'm disappointed.
Know what? If the multiplayer was going to work as badly as Conviction's, I won't lose a thing.

 

[Laser Priest]

I'm not even a PC gamer, but this is still adding to my list of reasons to dislike Ubisoft.

 

[Slayer_2]

Or they could just release the game the normal way, DRM free and see if that works. Guess what Ubisoft, if you didn't shove so much crap down our throats people might be able to not only play your game, but lose the frustration of trying to get it to start up in the first place. DRM is like a mall cop who goes out of the way to piss of real customers, then ignores actual thieves.

Is that why World of Good had a 90% piracy rate despite no DRM?

No idea what that game is, but here is a fact for you. People are gonna pirate. It doesn't matter how tight your security, one day, someone will crack it. Then distribute it. Once it's out there, it's out there. Doesn't matter if it's one person in the world that hacks it, or a million, all it takes is one upload. I don't know exact rates, but I'm sure piracy figures are higher than sales figures for most games. Show me the game that has never been pirated, and I'll retract my statements about DRM.

So unless DRM manages to stop alp piracy completely, you say its a failure. The fuck? A reduction in the rate of piracy is a success for DRM, not the total stopping of all piracy.

You're thinking of this the wrong way. Think if it like a dam (DRM). People (pirates) are trying to sabotage the dam with jackhammers to get the water (software) on the other side. They don't want to pay the cost of the water bill (cost of the legit game), whatever. Does it matter if the dam is only cracked in one small area or if it is utterly destroyed by a massive horde of angry jackhammer-bearing construction workers? No, the end result is the same, the water is flooding out, and the dam is useless.

So your solution is to not build the dam in the first place? How would that be better?

I don't know if you know this, but building a dam takes lots of time, and money. And in the case of always-on online DRM, additional server costs. Why waste money and time on something that is GUARANTEED to be destroyed within weeks, if not days? Instead of building the dam, just charge people for the "water" and hope they're decent enough to not go "downstream" to get it. Of course, with this method, LOTS of people are going to go "downstream", but most will find the "water" is not to their taste, which they would have anyhow, had you bothered to give out free samples.

 

[HassEsser]

I officially hate Ubisoft now. I've been really on the fence with whether or not I like Ubisoft for a good 3 years now, especially since they started milking the hell out of the mediocre at best Assassin's Creed series. Oh well, I hated Ubisoft's games after Splinter Cell and Prince of Persia and Beyond Good and Evil, so Ubisoft can go fuck off for all I care, I'm done caring if they are. . .

 

[Sizzle Montyjing]

You're still lucky you have Assassin's Creed Ubisoft... or i would of marked you off my 'To buy list' FOREVER.
Just like EA.

Also: Go fuck yourself Ubisoft.

 

[Porecomesis]

And once again, piracy results in us not having nice things. And by 'us', I mean you, not me (the grammatically incorrect one).

 

[D0WNT0WN]

Ubisoft creates invasive DRM that punishes the paying customer
Pirates get past the invasive DRM as a big "Screw You" to Ubisoft
Paying customers who have become sick of the invasive DRM resort to piracy
Ubisoft has a temper tantrum because they just can beat the pirates.

 

[GeekFury]

Hands up who is in the 5% with legal Ubisoft games? I own a number of Ubisoft games, bought them all 100% legitamately, never downloaded an illegal game in my life or bought one.

Ubisoft, stop talking out your backside.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

I would have expected this from Epic... but Ubisoft? I'm disappointed.

Funny thing there is that Epic have stated they're looking at getting into 'middle tier' (between indie and AAA) developing for PCs... much lower budgets but, OTOH, far less insane sales pressures... meaning they can really push the envelope for dick jokes in gaming without having to worry too much about consumer backlash.

 

[DalekJaas]

Ubisoft has never made a game worth playing anyway, I'll keep my console ported CoD and Skyrim TYVM.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Ubisoft are being douches to PC gamers?

Wow. I made this exact same post yesterday... Ubisoft are becoming predictable.

A bit sad that the gif must be used again so close to when it was last used in reference to this exact same company. Anyway I don't think I'll be buying anything first hand from Ubisoft unless they do some serious PR recovery as to be honest this is making Bobby Kotick look like he has people skills. I can't wait until they complain about preowned sales now because 95% of the people that play the game bought it preowned.

The whole fucking PR department of Ubisoft must be on holidays or else they are keeping them locked in a basement as it seems they really don't like money. Although the tone in this is much less fuck you and more of its not you its me.

I played the last 2 Ghost Recon games and while the first AW was alright(nothing like older games) the second was a boring disgrace of a game and I wouldn't even compare it to a B movie let alone super Hollywood. Although I shouldn't be mean to B movies they never hurt me. I mean 50,000*?30= ?1,500,000. While it may not be big bucks in the game industry now it is more than enough to make back the money on a port and even that is a ridiculously low sales rate only a shitty port would get. This isn't even including the fact that it expands your potential audience for the crap these companies love like DLC.

As another user said Ubisoft you have one more chance you fuck up Rainbow 6 and you're dead to me. To think I was considering buying their catalogue during the Steam Christmas sale now I'll take my money somewhere else.

 

[Robert Ewing]

I find it hilarious. It's like Ubisoft is tortured father that nobody really likes, and he's just on the edge of complete insanity.

FINE, WHATS THE POINT OF ME EVEN TRYING IF YOU'RE JUST GONNA PIRATE IT ANYWAY YOU DICKS. FUCK YOU AND YOUR PC'S!

Rather childish, and really not good. For all the pirated copies someone must buy a ubisoft game for pc. I have. I regretted it, but i still bought it.

 

[vrbtny]

Ubisoft are being douches to PC gamers?

Wow. I made this exact same post yesterday... Ubisoft are becoming predictable.

A bit sad that the gif must be used again so close to when it was last used in reference to this exact same company.

Eh, for me it's just a excuse for using it. The thing took me 30 minutes to make, so I feel like I need to use it at least 30 times, to make up for every minute I could have used instead to play Skyrim.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Ubisoft are being douches to PC gamers?

Wow. I made this exact same post yesterday... Ubisoft are becoming predictable.

A bit sad that the gif must be used again so close to when it was last used in reference to this exact same company.

Eh, for me it's just a excuse for using it. The thing took me 30 minutes to make, so I feel like I need to use it at least 30 times, to make up for every minute I could have used instead to play Skyrim.

That's fair enough but it doesn't look good for Ubisoft and their seemingly absent PR department.

 

[kebab4you]

K, thanks, won't download your shitty game anyway but good to know where we stand in our relationship.

 

[vrbtny]

Ubisoft are being douches to PC gamers?

Wow. I made this exact same post yesterday... Ubisoft are becoming predictable.

A bit sad that the gif must be used again so close to when it was last used in reference to this exact same company.

Eh, for me it's just a excuse for using it. The thing took me 30 minutes to make, so I feel like I need to use it at least 30 times, to make up for every minute I could have used instead to play Skyrim.

That's fair enough but it doesn't look good for Ubisoft and their seemingly absent PR department.

I have the most horrible feeling that Ubisoft does in fact have a huge PR department, it's just comprised off all the insufferable dicks who were kicked out of the other departments for being....well, dicks.

 

[Anaklusmos]

I had a huge list of Ubisoft games I wanted to buy because they intrigued me... *deletes off Notepad* most likely just saved myself £150+ thanks Ubisoft, I was kind of in a tight situation with money and you just made it a hell of a lot easier!

 

[Wolfram23]

This is the industry that charged $60 for a 30 second Atari game. How in the hell do you say a game with 70,000 times the playing length and several trillion times the content should be worth less than that?

They did find a happy medium - $60. The price should be around $110. And for games like Skyrim, $230.

Or, you know, the Atari game should have cost $5.

PS: I'm fairly sure you're being sarcastic, but I felt I needed to reply in case you're actually that stupid. Hard to tell sometimes.

But OutrageousEmu is right - £50 is a happy medium.

A large pizza costs about £12 and lasts maybe an hour. A decent meal can cost £40/£50 and lasts a couple of hours. Even a game like Portal 2 provides dozens of hours of entertainment for £50 - the same as four pizzas. Something like CoD or Skyrim can provide hundreds of hours of entertainment. Thats pretty good value to me.

Because clearly pizza is charged to us based on how long it takes us to eat, not on how much ingredients and labour and overhead cost to make it...

You could probably build a very simplistic Flash game that has infinite length (random generating dungeons for example) in a matter of days... doesn't mean it should be worth more than five cents.

Do you think CoD MW3 took anywhere near as long or as much money to make as Battlefield 3 or Skyrim? No fucking way. Plus it sells a shit ton more overall, which means they should actually charge a hell of a lot less! Instead they jack their profit margin through the roof. Good for business? Yep! Good for consumers? No!

How the fuck would that work? Less popular games charge more? How in the hell would that help them at all?

Decreasing prices would just drive people to the cheapest games, which would just dumb down the tastes of gaming as a whole. Good for consumers? Well, they get their crap cheaper. Good for gaming? Holy ************, not anywhere close.

But fair enough, a game should charge for labour, materials, and a healthy profit on top of that. And woah, lookit that, that price is $60. Almost as if game developers already worked this out.

And people complain about $60 as they would about it costing anything - because the people who do complain about price are either too poor (in which case they may need to recognise that gaming is just a hobby outside their price range - sad but true) or, more likely, because they're entitled whingers. Like the people who demand well kept roads and high standards of public education but don't want to have to pay any taxes.

Right, because for all the millions who shop at Walmart, there's of course nobody who bothers going to Armani Exchange for their clothes. For all the Dodge Dakotas out there, nobody bothers buying a Nissan Titan. For all the copies of Amnesia: The Dark Descent sold, nobody bothers to buy Skyrim.

A product is as valuable as people are willing to pay for it. If Ubisoft thinks "95%" of PC gamers are pirating their game then something must be terribly wrong when there's plenty of games/publishers making loads of cash on PC. Maybe that something is that the real value of the product is far less than the $60 they want for it so it doesn't sell like they hoped, and then they have to make up stupid numbers and blame arbitrary "pirates".

Let's say someone engineers a product and that costs $100,000. Then to fabricate it, it's another $10,000. To sell 2 products they'd cost over $60,000. But wait, if they can sell 10 products, the price drops to $20,000! 100 items it's only $11,000!

You can't possibly believe when MW3 breaks all kinds of sales records, and given that it came out in only 1 year, and given that it runs on the same engine as the other CoDs (plus a little tweaking), that it could possibly have cost the same to produce as a game like Skyrim, whether looking at whole development cost or cost per sold item. Obviously they're just charging $60 because they can get away with it. It is not at all a competitive market. If Skyrim sold for $70 and MW3 sold for $30 I would consider it reasonable. Premium rate for a premium product (well, hopefully they'd fix more bugs before shipping) and low rate for a pile of poo.