Meanwhile, Gabe Newell bathes in money after a tiring session of skeet-shooting release builds of Half Life 3.
Ubisoft Kills Ghost Recon: Future Soldier on PC
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But the problem arises when the pirating minority is addressed by DRM.Flac00 said:
I mean, I actually have the fucking $50 Shivering Isles disc AND the $50 Fallout 3 disc that I bought at Best-Buy some odd 4-6 years ago, AND I STILL have torrented .iso versions saved to my external drive, because the DRM on the discs WON'T LET THE GAMES FUCKING RUN.
I mean, they're ruining their own market. People pirate on consoles, too, it's just that they don't get as much attention. It's also hard to find PC games. I mean, I go to Gamestop looking for a game, and they don't have it, because they literally get ONE copy of the game for PC. That's it. ONE COPY. Once it's gone, you can't get it there. You have to go online. For some people (like me) who don't have credit cards, or $110 on hand to spend on a $100 pre-paid Visa Debit to buy a game online, we're not left a lot of options.
in retail, if you accuse a customer of shoplifting and they are not, you can be sued for harassment. So, ubisoft(retail shop) is accusing 95% of PC gamers of being pirates(shoplifters) can everyone who has bought a ubisoft PC game sue them for harassment?
Ubisoft: Stop being a *****, if you don't want to make PC games then piss off, but don't come with stupid reasons for your decisions, if you want to use succesfull DRM then get Steam to help you out, also what might help...make fucking better games!!!
Pirating is happening on all 4 formats asshole, and 95%, reallllly? Please quote the source of that information you lying sack of shit!!!
Pirating is happening on all 4 formats asshole, and 95%, reallllly? Please quote the source of that information you lying sack of shit!!!
A few years ago there was a fella in my buddy's apartment building that out of the blue one day decided my buddy and his girlfriend were stealing his wifi without his permission because his internet was slow in the evening. They tried assuring him they had their own internet and really didn't have any need to use his. That did no good. He eventually went so far as to complain to the super and even after the super told him they had their own internet service he still was of the belief that they were using his internet. Finally, after multiple weeks of baseless accusations and being treated like so much shit they finally decided "fuck it" and started using his internet out of spite.
The moral of all that is that if people are going to accuse you of doing something and treat you accordingly regardless then you may as well go ahead and fucking do it. I think we are seeing a lot of this in PC gaming anymore. PC gamers are largely sick and tired of companies assuming they are all pirates and treating them as such even after they know for a fact they aren't pirates after they purchase the game. Is it really any wonder that after these companies call PC gamers thieves and treat them accordingly that they become just that?
The moral of all that is that if people are going to accuse you of doing something and treat you accordingly regardless then you may as well go ahead and fucking do it. I think we are seeing a lot of this in PC gaming anymore. PC gamers are largely sick and tired of companies assuming they are all pirates and treating them as such even after they know for a fact they aren't pirates after they purchase the game. Is it really any wonder that after these companies call PC gamers thieves and treat them accordingly that they become just that?
you may be right..especially with publishers freaking out over used games...while the retailers are pushing harder for the consumer to buy more used games (liek with EB games new "carrot" program)Waaghpowa said:
a future without hard copies may be upon us, which I find off-putting
Im interested what your refering to when you say "ignorance"
Here is the thing. As gabe newell put it, people pirate games more often if the pirated version of the game is better then the legitimate version of the game. This is true with ALL ubisoft PC games, and it causes them to be pirated disproportionately.Flac00 said:
No, you use pirate bay because you are an immoral leach on an industry that you continue to complain about. If you are not willing to pay for something, that doesn't give you the right to steal it.BodomBeachChild said:
Well this is quite worrying. This could mean future Assassin's Creed games don't appear on PC, which would fucking suck, because I love the series and I don't have any consoles.
I own all the Assassin's Creed games so far (preordered Revs) because despite the stupid DRM they have put in place I find the games themselves to be excellent which I think makes up for that.
Also I was interested in playing Future Soldier. I didn't give a shit about I Am Alive, but it's a shame that this isn't coming to PC, because I like these type of "realistic, but not too much" shooters.
Guys, PLEASE buy Assassin's Creed Revelations and let the figures show them we want their PC releases.
I own all the Assassin's Creed games so far (preordered Revs) because despite the stupid DRM they have put in place I find the games themselves to be excellent which I think makes up for that.
Also I was interested in playing Future Soldier. I didn't give a shit about I Am Alive, but it's a shame that this isn't coming to PC, because I like these type of "realistic, but not too much" shooters.
Guys, PLEASE buy Assassin's Creed Revelations and let the figures show them we want their PC releases.
I'm trying to think of any games I have pirated as a PC gamer, but am currently unsure about if what I did was wrong. Example, I got Unreal Tournament 99 from a friend on a flashdrive way back in high school, I liked it and it was only available bundled with UT2004, so I bought that. It also came with a CD with the awesome music for the games.
I legally purchased a copy of the original Bioshock and played using a crack that removed the 5 activation limit and removed the malware known as Securom as well.
Torrents are meant for Linux distros and legally questionable anime fansubs.
I legally purchased a copy of the original Bioshock and played using a crack that removed the 5 activation limit and removed the malware known as Securom as well.
I think the main reason for piracy tends to be how easy it is to do it and how unfortunately in multiple cases it is better. There are plenty of people who are pirates who download games with no though to ever buy them. There are also those who pirate the game and buy it later, Steam is a great system where developers make their money; its easy on the consumer in terms of DRM, and I can just wait for a sale if theirs something I want. If it is easier, and less inconvenient to pirate something they will do it. I am fine with online registration for multiplayer games, but constant internet to be able to play a single player game; along with not being able to save locally is stupid.brainslurper said:
Torrents are meant for Linux distros and legally questionable anime fansubs.
I hope everyone does what i do.
DON'T PLAY THEIR STUPID F2P NONSENSE
show them we don't want their games free. I pray PC gamers will not play this game, I want ubisoft to eat it's own words.
I also want people to pirate the free game. Hell, if you want to try it, pirate it and set up a private server, JUST TO PISS THEM OFF.
PLEASE do this! for the industry!
DON'T PLAY THEIR STUPID F2P NONSENSE
show them we don't want their games free. I pray PC gamers will not play this game, I want ubisoft to eat it's own words.
I also want people to pirate the free game. Hell, if you want to try it, pirate it and set up a private server, JUST TO PISS THEM OFF.
PLEASE do this! for the industry!
Very well, Sebastien.
5% of your games players want to give you money for your games? I rather suspect that's significantly below the industry average, and in that case, well, that's *your* problem, and nobody else's.
And if that's the same rate across the industry, and those 5% of paying players aren't enough to cover your development costs, as they apparently do at EA, Valve, Positech, Introversion, Stardock, THQ, Bethesda, et al, then again, the problem is you.
Of course, the most interesting part is what goes unsaid here, and that's the concession that all their much vaunted DRM measures are as for naught.
5% of your games players want to give you money for your games? I rather suspect that's significantly below the industry average, and in that case, well, that's *your* problem, and nobody else's.
And if that's the same rate across the industry, and those 5% of paying players aren't enough to cover your development costs, as they apparently do at EA, Valve, Positech, Introversion, Stardock, THQ, Bethesda, et al, then again, the problem is you.
Of course, the most interesting part is what goes unsaid here, and that's the concession that all their much vaunted DRM measures are as for naught.
They've more or less said their plan is to try and dive into the Free To Play cashpit that PCs are seeing at the moment.Aprilgold said:
Got to say, batshit way to go about it...
Sorry but no.AverageJoe said:
Firstly because I have no interest in the game and secondly because I don't believe in rewarding people for dickish behaviour.
