UK Defense Secretary Calls for Medal of Honor Ban

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ciortas1 said:
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Woodsey said:
Well of course he's disgusted by it, because the moron hasn't looked into it more than: "OH NOEZ, TALIBAN!1!".

I'm sick of these fucking idiots.
You and me both, man. You and me both.
You and you and me, all three of us.

When will this retardation be eradicated from the human species?
When people start playing Russian Roulette with semi-automatics.
 

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No one complains when you can play as Nazis, but this is crossing the line?

They (the people complaining) need to be consistent; otherwise, it's hard to side with them.
 

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Oh wow, all they're doing is fighting, they're not enacting Sharia law or anything, so what's there to complain about?

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Last time I checked America was not part of the UK.
On the contrary, Britain acts like it is the 51st US state since the war on drugs.
 

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I bet Mister Fox played the MOH beta and didnt like it so he's raging, but instead of 4chan or youtube he go to, its....the goverment..
 

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The Taliban obviously killed more people than the Axis forces during WWII? Makes perfect sense to ban the game. I'd rather kill some babies in Dante's Inferno anyway, or slaughter pedestrians in one of the many GTA games, or even align blocks into rows and watch them dematerialise as their friends and neighbours scream in terror as they know that they too will inevitably meet the same demise.
 

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Hang on, "At the hands of the Taliban, children have lost fathers and wives have lost husbands,"... in the years of the British Empire, I'm sure many places considered the English the bad guys who were killing fathers and husbands, it's just that the winners get to look like the good guys
 

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TestECull said:
"At the hands of the Taliban, children have lost fathers and wives have lost husbands," he said.
.....couldn't you say the same thing for British soldiers as well? Every enemy soldier they killed had family back home. Many of them were husbands and fathers, which leaves many wives windowed and children partially orphaned.

"But TestE, we can overlook that because they're us! We can do no wrong!"

lol. stupid politicians. Glad to see America isn't the only shithole with 'em.
You sir, win this thread. Now, if you would, please relay that point on to every western politician or news organization out there.
 

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So, basically that big wall of verbiage can be condensed down into two simple words: Too soon.

I have to wonder though, assuming neither of us has played the game, how do either of us know what the actual content is going to be like?

As for the rest. Fiction is fiction, I don't' believe it's fair to attack the work for people's warped perceptions.

The simple fact of what they are doing should be enough. It's pointless to complain if people go running out and buy a game "to find out". That simply plays into the tasteless contreversy.

I'll be honest in saying that while I have little faith in video game boycotts in general, I think we need to see some successful ones. Not just because of material like the above, but because by supporting the business models of the current gaming industry that we see now, it renders what we as gamers think or have to say irrelevent. For example someone who ran right out to buy "Starcraft 2: Wings Of Liberty" despite it's higher than normal price and only having part of the storyline included, isn't going to accomplish much by complaining about Blizzard/Activision and it's greed, or whatever psycho thing Bobby Kotick is planning to do next.

This comes down to a matter of principle, rather than business practice, but the same logic applies. You can't buy the game, and THEN complain that what they did shouldn't have been done. That isn't going to teach them anything except that being offensively contreversial on things is going to help them sell games.

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As far as warped perspectives go I hear it frequently. I am well aware that I am in a minority on these forums when it comes to politics. I don't generally expect many people to agree with me, but saying my piece does provide a bit of balance.

People getting angry (as another post) isn't surprising, a lot of what I have to say challenges a lot of long-held beliefs that are common to this audience. I do however think peole need to relax, instead of explaining how angry they are, or implying someone's point of view is "warped". I don't freak out or get insulting every time I see someone say something I strongly disagee with. I state my point of view, and typically when it comes to the big picture we wind up having to agree to disagree. I also think people need to realize that I'm not some "whacked minority", the nation (US) is very much divided 50-50, with goverment positions being decided by very slim margins. Obama is a popular present with a 7% lead at his best when he came into office, that's only a lot when you consider how close a lot of the other recent elections were. A political map of the UK someone put up in another thread seemed to show that it's similarly divided along very close, diametrically opposed lines. Nothing good is going to happen if everyone keeps biting each other heads off, and remains convinced that there is no validity to the other side, or that their point of view is that
of some kind of non-existant super-majority.

Ahh well, I'm rambling (as I tend to do), and this is getting well off subject. In the end I think people in the US/UK and allied nations should indeed boycott this game and that it's out of line (though the goverment should not itself ban it). They should not give the producers money for making it, even to "find out" since what they put into the game stands on it's own. A lot of people of course disagree wih me and my reasoning, that's fine. We'll see what happens, but to be honest I have so little faith in video game boycotts and game consumers having any kind of meaningful voice, that I doubt the request of the UK Defense Secretary will have any influance at all.
 

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This is just silly. As not the "good guys" dont kill anyone. They dont bomb civillians or stuff like that. The only casulties are talibans and terrorits.

And shouldnt Counter-Strike and Counter-Strike Soucre be banned to you play as terroist there to?
 

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what do Jack Thompson, Michael Atkinson and Liam Fox have all in common?

they all are in a mid-life crisis and never have played a computer game in their life.
 

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No... NO... NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!! How about you don't ban a game when we're trying to pay off debts you god damned government! We're up to our necks in debt and you want to take away a game which has the full blown potential to complete cash in for retailers? Is that what you want?

No-one complains when it's Nazi's we kill, but when it's the Taliban, a group of people which probably doesn't even have that many members and claims responsibility, and is a group that the press decide to interview every other tuesday, THEN it is wrong? Not the most evil army in the world, controlled by a man who slaughtered MILLIONS of Jewish people, merely because of what they believed in? Some of those people had no idea of their heritage, and still died because of the most absurd links! Strangely, apparently Hitlers Grandfather was Jewish, but he turned his nose up at himself the Hypocrite. Tell me, would you prefer us to march online and be these people, or them.

Oh sure, I understand the fact of the whole "Too Soon" thing, but guess what? The US originally supported the Taliban, and even provided arms, hoping that they would restore order to a war ravaged country. They did, but then got too big headed. Here we are, trying to stop them.

Okay... I have forgotten where I'm going with this. The point is...



Calumon: Here come's Jack's Midland Rage!
 

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Apparently its not offensive to play as terrorists in CoD4 and MW2 is they have a made up name, but god forbid if you use the name of a real terrorist organization
 

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diggy140892 said:
This is stupid, the Nazis committed far more atrocities than the Taliban have, yet it's been fine to play as them in the multiplayer modes of previous Call of duty games.
They probably find that acceptable cos the nazis got their asses kicked so it doesnt really matter but the Taliban are still killing so it can be seen as showing support for them... dont get me wrong im british and want this game to come out and disagree with foxxy, but i am a bit open-minded and can see where he is coming from to an extent. but anyway what about the families our soldiers have torn apart? and they fight for what they believe in so in all honesty, everyone is at fault (im not anti-militant in any way im just making a point)
 

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diggy140892 said:
This is stupid, the Nazis committed far more atrocities than the Taliban have, yet it's been fine to play as them in the multiplayer modes of previous Call of duty games.
They probably find that acceptable cos the nazis got their asses kicked so it doesnt really matter but the Taliban are still killing so it can be seen as showing support for them... dont get me wrong im british and want this game to come out and disagree with foxxy, but i am a bit open-minded and can see where he is coming from to an extent. but anyway what about the families our soldiers have torn apart? and they fight for what they believe in so in all honesty, everyone is at fault (im not anti-militant in any way im just making a point)