Update: Fez Dev Tells Media Member To Kill Himself

[fix-the-spade]

Fish was out of line certainly. But the other guy sounds like a grade-a juvenile asshole as well. This is an example of two people who should've been the better man, and yet neither of them were.

Worthwhile note, when he was talking about Blowfish he was talking about the collective pairing of Jonathan Blow of Braid fame and Phil Fish of Fez fame. Also, like the Blowfish, they're quite tasty but potentially lethal.

He was specifically talking about the pair's tendency to court the media at every opportunity, but immediately lash out the moment the attention they'd created didn't suit them or the coverage moved in a direction they didn't like. Whilst his delivery was typically sweary welshman the point was that 'BlowFish' have set themselves up as the self proclaimed faces of Indy Game Development. Having created that image themselves, they don't get to be surprised when the press turns to them for an opinion. As the 'faces' of an entire industry they have a duty to make that industry look good, not lash out all the time which could hurt many more people and projects than their own.

Unfortunately that seems to have sailed past Fish, who's reverted to type.

 

[Colt47]

A man insults another man for insulting him. We must all comment on this! =p

 

[Dogstile]

Given the sheer amount of shit I see tossed at Phil Fish on the internet on a constant basis, this outburst is wholly understandable. Childish and irrational to be sure, but also understandable.

Agreed, holy shit the guy is abused on a daily basis. No wonder he's being a dick.

 

[the_pleasure_is_mine]

Wow, way to act like a child and throw a tantrum.

It's a shame, Fez was such genius.

 

[The_Echo]

I'm not up to speed with Fish's PR. But what I do know (or am led to believe) is that he generally acts like an unlikable ****.

Something tells me if that didn't happen, Twitter wouldn't bring "so much ugliness" into his life.

Telling someone to kill themselves (after insulting and lording over them, no less), then cancelling your game after people got mad at you? Christ, might as well be middle school.

 

[Fin Morrison]

I'm really sad that fez 2 got cancelled, i was really looking forward too it. also, has anyone ever considered the possibility the Phil might actually be doing i this on purpose? I mean his twitter profile pic is bleeding Andy Kaufman!

 

[WanderingFool]

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*20 minutes later)*

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Oh god... that is awesome...

 

[Formica Archonis]

Given the sheer amount of shit I see tossed at Phil Fish on the internet on a constant basis, this outburst is wholly understandable. Childish and irrational to be sure, but also understandable.

Agreed, holy shit the guy is abused on a daily basis. No wonder he's being a dick.

If he wasn't known for blowing up so easily and dishing it out when he can't take it, then no one would bug him. People are pricks to be sure, but he made himself a hornet's nest for the world to poke. When someone's trying to get a rise out of you, you never give them the joy of knowing they succeeded.

Then he didn't have the sense to either get out of Twitter or to better control his emotions. Emotional problems or not, he wasn't chained to his Twitter feed. He stayed in the cesspit and then complained about being neck-deep in crap.

There's indie devs who don't have to put up with half of what he had because they can control if not themselves then at least their responses. There's also people in gaming hated far more than him that have a far easier time of it because they're smart enough to do things like disable comments on their blogs and not throw themselves into the unmoderated messes of Twitter et al.

 

[Omegatronacles]

*SNIP*

Let's be realistic: Why would you care if I got hit by a car tomorrow? Sure you may have a brief moment of "oh, it's sad he got hit by a car", but because I haven't had any significance to your life in any way you probably wouldn't care beyond five minutes. I haven't produced anything note-worthy, not in terms of physical content, social content or something mentally stimulating. Phil Fish, to me, hasn't provided me anything that has been note-worthy to me personally in any way. Therefore, if he offed himself in the near future nothing of value would be lost to me.

Although if you can name someone who has been worth a lot despite not making anything of worth in terms of physical, social or mental content, I'll admit fault.

You are correct, if you got hit by a car tomorrow, I would not lose any sleep over it, because I do not know you and until this point you have not crossed my life today.

But at the same time, I do not spend my time going "If Riobux dies, nothing has been lost", because that's a stupid statement, and it implies that you have no value to anyone in this world.

If there is at least one person who feels the world is better due to your time on it, you have produced value and don't deserve to have your entire life dismissed in 8 words.

 

[Ralfarius]

Not nearly enough people chiming in on recognizing a well-placed Futurama quote.

That is the truly disappointing aspect of this entire debacle.

 

[Baldr]

I would give my "Personality is paramount in the game industry" and "Being an independent game developer does not separate you from the industry" speeches, but at this point it like beating a dead horse as it pertains to Fish.

 

[thespyisdead]

this is my biggest fear if i ever become a recognized game dev: me losing my temper and lashing out at every single thing

 

[fwiffo]

Bummer, was looking forward to fez 2. Recently played the first one, and thought it was pretty great.

Some people aren't made for social media.

best of luck to him in the future.

 

[ZZoMBiE13]

Beer needs to fuck off.

Boy do I ever agree with that part. Not a fan of Fish either, but that podcast guy is as big a douche as I've ever seen holding a microphone. "Annoyed Gamer" indeed. Should be called "Entitled Prick".

But whatever. Neither of them come out of this one looking like anything more than idiot man-children, crying for attention.

 

[Infernal Lawyer]

So when a shitstorm starts brewing on Planet of the Arseholes, in which one do you duck for cover?

At least it would have been that way if it wasn't for that 'Fuck it, no Fez 2 for you' comment from Phil. Not that I care that much for a Fez sequel, but come on... That just turned from two stupid toddlers having a shit-flinging match to one toddler screaming 'I hate EVERYONE! I'm taking my cool toys home with me now!'

So, people here have been pointing out that he both gives and gets a lot of shit from the likes of the media and twitter, with an emphasis on not being able to take his own medicine. Regardless of who's in the right or wrong here, everyone stinks and has slightly less (objectively) nice things in the world.

 

[Impluse_101]

Is it really that hard to practice some basic self control and human decency? Honest question here.

This.
Just This.
I have nothing more to say.
So have a picture of something cute to hopefully pause you for two seconds.

Spoiler: People like Doctor Who right?

 

[Daverson]

In my experience, the media usually deserve this sort of thing.

I'd comment on the irony of saying something like that in response to a news story, but I feel the fact that two grown men engaging in one of those cartoon slapping battles being "news" more or less proves my point.

 

[DarkhoIlow]

This is a loss to the fans of Fez and to those that were looking forward to the sequel. But from what I've read in the past, he had a very awful attitude and I'm sorry for those who have worked with him on the game may be jobless because of his outburst and arguments on twitter.

Giving a single person so much power (the power of canceling his game) upsets me. He is being very selfish in my eyes.

 

[Hero of Lime]

I really can't wait for Marcus's response, while I don't always agree with Marcus on gaming issues, I certainly like him way more personally than that Mr. Fish. That guy sounds so full of himself it's ridiculous.

 

[shrekfan246]

I thought these indie guys were supposed to be all chill and artsy. Yeah, he gets shit about stuff, but so does everybody else. He isn't special and you don't go around on social media sites saying those things this day and age w/o consequences.

Indie devs seem to be the most prone to lashing out at people who criticize them or their projects, actually. Mostly because, unlike AAA-devs (or at the very least publisher-funded devs) they're generally a small team pumping all of their heart and soul into a project and rarely doing it just for the paycheck (not to say the bigger teams only do it for the paycheck, but there's more lost in the translation when the team is 200 people instead of five).

OT: Cancelling the game seems kinda like an overreaction to me. But hey, it's his prerogative.