Update: Fez Dev Tells Media Member To Kill Himself

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Tony2077

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NiPah said:
Never got to play Fez, too busy playing Japanese games and triple A games to have a chance.

Oh hey, he's said something stupid again, oh and he canceled a game he was making I was never going to play, truly an uneventful day overall.

On the other hand Tales of Xillia is coming out soon, can't wait to play the shit out of that.
i can't wait either and i think i'll see if the 2nd one is preorderable
 

Revolutionary

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Oh Phil, we can always rely on you to be a total asshat for our entertainment.
Oh and in response to that update, what a fuckface, what a whiney crybaby asshat. And to people defending this twat.... [HEADING=1]it's not relevant that it's a futurama reference[/HEADING]The fact that he has mental problems is also irrelevant, it's twitter, think before you post because that's your fucking job.
 

Altorin

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pretty sure it was a bender quote.

B E N D E R! BEeeeEeeEeennder! B E N D E R! BEeeeEeeEeennder!
 

Riobux

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Omegatronacles said:
You are correct, if you got hit by a car tomorrow, I would not lose any sleep over it, because I do not know you and until this point you have not crossed my life today.

But at the same time, I do not spend my time going "If Riobux dies, nothing has been lost", because that's a stupid statement, and it implies that you have no value to anyone in this world.

If there is at least one person who feels the world is better due to your time on it, you have produced value and don't deserve to have your entire life dismissed in 8 words.
True, but the phrase "and nothing of value was lost" tends to be directed towards personal perception of value, rather than value to anything at all. If the latter, well, it's a phrase that could never be used.
 

KungFuJazzHands

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Fish: Obviously troubled young man. most likely suffering from some sort of social anxiety disorder. Can't handle criticism or stress. Lashes out at friends and critics alike. Possibly bi-polar.

Beer: Self-important games critic and sometimes-PR douche for industry companies. Stereotypical British "holier than thou" attitude. No obvious psychological conditions. Very big mouth.

One has mental issues, the other is just an asshole. I know where my sympathies lie.
 

RaikuFA

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Not going to defend Mr. Fishs comments, even though I think people are blowing it WAAAAAY out of proportion. Especially when one realizes that the latter part of his tweet was a Futurama reference and therefore a joke.

But this is the internet, after all. And the only sense of humor people have 'round here is one that involves either lol-cats or picking on people and being cruel. So...oh well.

Anyway, while I'm not defending Fishs tweet, I am going to agree with him and a few others in saying that Mr. Beer can fuck right off. His remarks towards Phil Fish and Johnathan Blow were unwarranted, needlessly confrontational, unceremoniously personal, and completely tasteless. The guy is a colossal prick and deserves as equal a level of ire and ridicule as Phil Fish is receiving.

Seriously....fuck Marcus Beer. What a twat.
But both of them do only come out from the woodwork when they want attention. Beer was calling them out for just that.
 

Morsomk_v1legacy

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Yeaahhh.....this whole thing is just a mess ain't it. Granted, I never actually cared about Phil Fish(Dat name) or his game, but that attitude is just not making want to play it. Ever. Also that Markus Beer guy, probably shouldnt have aimed his joke at an indie developer that was known for having outbursts on Twitter....Unless he intended too(Golly Gee, WE GOT A MYSTERY ON OUR HAND), which is still a dick move btw.

Might as well just keep on gaming guys. So what about those Japanese games that are supposed to come out?
NiPah said:
On the other hand Tales of Xillia is coming out soon, can't wait to play the shit out of that.

Amen, random person in the internet that I agree with! Am-fucking-en!
 

Midniqht

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The more I hear about this guy, the more I dislike him. So what if he developed Fez. Sure, it was an OK game, nothing to herald as the end-all-be-all of indie games, but that doesn't give him the right to act like a total bag of dicks. Seems like everything I see about Fez developers is nothing but complain, complain, complain. How about be less of an asshat, Phil Fish
 

Necrofudge

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He didn't even legitimately tell the guy to kill himself. Anyone with two working brain cells could see he was just reciting a line from Futurama. It speaks to his arrogance, but can't be taken seriously as a death threat.
 

GoaThief

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Beer was way out of line, it was quite a vicious attack on someone with serious mental health issues (Fish is bi-polar).

Some of the comments here are pretty shameful, if they were directed at a fellow forum goer there would be bans aplenty.
 

Nemu

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I'm glad that I'm not the only one who had never heard of the guy.

Or "Fez" for that matter.

But if he was acting like a petulant child with only minimal noteriety, imagine if he designed for a bigger gaming house. HE would be the one swinging from the rafters instead of a reporter. Sheesh.
 

Headdrivehardscrew

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Vie said:
I've barely heard of the guy and I already want to slap him about the head and tell him to grow up.

That's never a good sign.
Yeah. I usually make a mantra out of ignoring peoples/artists characters and recommend others to do the same. If one really doesn't want to support selfish assholes with weird ideas, we'd be unable to watch most movies, listen to most music and we'd also have to cut back on the majority of painters and pencillers. That's a generalization, of course, but cuntmuffins come in all shapes and colours. Phil Fish should have gotten some proper management or PR team the moment he struck gold. He's just not very good with words... or people.
 

Headdrivehardscrew

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GoaThief said:
Beer was way out of line, it was quite a vicious attack on someone with serious mental health issues (Fish is bi-polar).

Some of the comments here are pretty shameful, if they were directed at a fellow forum goer there would be bans aplenty.
Ah, but I don't really care if Fish is bipolar or hailing from Alpha Centauri. It's none of my business. If I have that information, I might gladly give him a free multipass the first time he goes bonkers, but I would absolutely expect him to get a grip on himself one way or another after that. Fish is above that. You either got yourself in check and under control or you pay people to do that for you. Fish has been well out of line for a while and repeatedly went borderline psychotic batpoop crazy, shit just gets old really fast.

I also don't agree on the 'vicious attack' description of yours. Beer used foul language interspersed with eff words. It's his personal style, not very smart, not very edgy, but he usually has at least one straight man countering his lovely and loving negativity. Jonathan Blow and Phil Fish = blowfish. Hilarious? No. But that's not the core of the criticism Beer came up with. I think Beer made proper points that should be addressed and, maybe, discussed beyond Invisible Walls.

As Lao-Tse said: You better check yoself before you wreck yoself.
 

Headdrivehardscrew

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KungFuJazzHands said:
Fish: Obviously troubled young man. most likely suffering from some sort of social anxiety disorder. Can't handle criticism or stress. Lashes out at friends and critics alike. Possibly bi-polar.

Beer: Self-important games critic and sometimes-PR douche for industry companies. Stereotypical British "holier than thou" attitude. No obvious psychological conditions. Very big mouth.

One has mental issues, the other is just an asshole. I know where my sympathies lie.
An asshole with mental issues is still an asshole.

Team Beer all the way.
 

Hero in a half shell

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KungFuJazzHands said:
Fish: Obviously troubled young man. most likely suffering from some sort of social anxiety disorder. Can't handle criticism or stress. Lashes out at friends and critics alike. Possibly bi-polar.

Beer: Self-important games critic and sometimes-PR douche for industry companies. Stereotypical British "holier than thou" attitude. No obvious psychological conditions. Very big mouth.

One has mental issues, the other is just an asshole. I know where my sympathies lie.
Hmm...

That breakdown reminds me of something...


Get me CBS on the phone now!
 

odanhammer

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eh fez 2 cancelled .. no loss . i never bothered to play the first one after seeing that on xbox it had some critical bug of some sorts.. figured it would of gotten sorted out.. which it never really did before i forgot about the game and this loser indie dev.

Look i have no problem with ranting on twitter about loser media members , nor do i have any problem with media members commenting on loser indie devs. But when it goes to far , and you tell someone to kill themselves.. your on my list of do not buy from ever. And then cancelling the 2nd game your making .. well that just makes it real easy to not purchase anything from this guy .
eh
 

Cybylt

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A favorite comment of mine from other reports of this.

"In other news - Local boy takes ball, goes home."
 

klaynexas3

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I'm starting to understand more and more why Fish's partner left him, and was possibly even thinking about screwing Phil over. I don't have anything major against Phil, but he seems to just think that he can act like any normal person with an internet connection and not receive any more shit even though he is a rather big name, and makes certain people know he's big. He's way too full of himself, that bubble is way to thin that shields his ego so he'll lash out at the slightest indication that someone doesn't agree with him, and he acts like the world owes him for his ultimate "genius." Not that Fez isn't a good game(I've yet to play it so I don't know), but I doubt it's any better than some of the better games even in the AAA industry. And I bet most Japanese games are better than his own. And then, if THIS is why he canceled Fez II, he's a bigger baby than thought possible.

He seems like the kind of guy I'd be internet friends with. And considering how big of a shut in I am(if I hang out with friends, I need a few days at home to recuperate, so I talk with my friends more online), that means quite a bit.