UPDATE: Microsoft Announces Left 4 Dead 2

Abedeus

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harhol said:
Abedeus said:
harhol said:
I don't see why everyone is making such a big deal about this. Yearly sequels used to be the norm. It's kinda weird in that it's Valve doing something normal for a change, but all these suggestions that it "must be a joke" are frankly ridiculous.
Used to be norm? WHEN? Games took years to develop, because there were less gamers than today.
Well, not including every sports series ever, here are some examples:

Rockstar North:

GTA3 (2001)
Vice City (2002)
Manhunt (2003)
San Andreas (2004)

Core Design:

Tomb Raider (1996)
TR2 (1997)
TR3 (1998)
Last Revelation (1999)
Chronicles (2000)
NOT MULTIPLAYER GAMES

Abedeus said:
It's kind of a big deal, since a lot of people have bought the L4D even recently after the free weekend and price cuts, and now after November the game will be another abandoned title, because a sequel came out.
If you played L4D two hours each day from now until when L4D2 is released, you'd get approximately 350 hours of playtime. If you've been playing it two hours a day since it was released and continue to play it, you'd accumulate almost 800 hours play time...

...For a game which costs less than $40.

Seriously what are you complaining about?
The game doesn't cost $40 in Europe. Even now it costs 30 EUR after price cuts.

I'm complaining because it's an ONLINE MULTIPLAYER game. Don't you see? In multiplayer games, you have to buy new expansion packs or add-ons, or you stay behind with everyone else. You don't buy new Guild Wars expansions? No new skills or items or classes for you. You don't buy WoW expansions? No content or raids for you.
 

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Left 4 Dead only cmae out recently so i think its too soon to realease a sequel but this trailer looks pretty sweet.
 

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Abedeus said:
I don't think CSS came out one year after CS 1.6.
It didn't. And people STILL play it. So what makes you think everyone would abandon L4D after just a year?
 

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the new tank is more realistic, and melee weapons will make the game awsome, atleast the concept is. But i agree with you guys, too soon, and im not paying another full price game that should of been what i payed for in the first place. Also, i hate MS, i was given an opportunity to tour their Washington campus, about to accept an intership there, and im telling you, its like selling your soul to satan.( They have a damn pool, a pool!RIGHT NEXT TO THE BUILDING I WAS TO WORK IN!)
 

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Anybody saying this is bad, is fucking retarded. You alll will go get LFD2 when it comes out and you all know it because we are gamers and always want more, that is what we do. And when it comes to zombie killing fun in multi player. if u dont like that you should die. Im not saying this is the best news in the world. Im just saying that this will be a great game because anything anybody hated about left for dead one will be changed to make it more entertaining. Like the variety in tanks for example.
 

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I slept over it for a night, and I am a bit at ease. I don't think MS has much to do with it (please god, let me be proven right). It will most probably be an awesome game, just as the first one, but with way more content. I wouldn't mind paying for it. I only spent about 18 EUR for the first one (weekend deal). But I will not pay 50 or even 60 EUR for it. No fucking way.
 

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it's good news accept it, and what's this shit about being warped to April 1st?

L4D came out november 2008... on 360 anyway QQ more
 

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Chimpaco said:
Anybody saying this is bad, is fucking retarded. You alll will go get LFD2 when it comes out and you all know it because we are gamers and always want more, that is what we do. And when it comes to zombie killing fun in multi player. if u dont like that you should die. Im not saying this is the best news in the world. Im just saying that this will be a great game because anything anybody hated about left for dead one will be changed to make it more entertaining. Like the variety in tanks for example.
Oh yeah, because we have doubts on how a game that is exactly like the last one which basically looks like a DLC made for the first one will be worth buying we're all "fucking retarded".

Hate about Left 4 Dead 1? What's to hate, kill or be killed. Simple concept but they should've released more maps for the first one, aka about 10 OR SO DAMN MAPS, before actually making a new game which pretty much looks like a DLC for the first game. I'm not paying $40 JUST so I can play the same game again in different enviroments. Sure, you get a chainsaw, instead of a Hulkish looking tank you get a farmer looking tank but heck, couldn't have all this be made into a DLC? It just fells a bit rushed that after barely supporting the 1st game to release another game.

Gamers might want more, but gamers also think a tad about money and what kind of game they get. Would you buy the same game with different enviroments when it's obvious you could've just made that into a DLC?

Has for the game itself, I'll wait for it to be released, see a bit of gameplay and probably buy it, but my trust in Valve has diminished, a lot.
 

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Guys... The "farmer looking tank" isn't the new tank. It's a new special infected called the Charger, it's main purpose is to stop people from camping.

Basically it takes a couple of seconds to power up, then it can charge at you with it's muscular arm. It can't turn corners well, and if you get behind it you can take it down easily, so it's main task is to trap survivors in corners, in closets or in crowded corridors.

Also, I think I now know why it's being announced/released so soon...

"...[Chet] told us that when they finished production of Left 4 Dead last year many of the developers had ideas they wanted to pursue for a sequel. And since Valve employees get to choose their next project, it quickly paved the way for Left 4 Dead 2."

So as to "Why this before HL2Ep3?", the answer is simple- The employees wanted to do L4D2 instead. Sequel wise, it usually takes between 2 and 4 years for a decent sequel, right? Theoretically, if twice the people WANT to work on the project, twice the man-hours can be done in half the time, so 2 years becomes 1 year. I'm not saying I'm happy with the decision, nor am I supportive of the fact that this isn't a DLC, I'm just saying that I can see the other side of the argument.

EDIT: Oopsie, [citation needed] for that quote
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/988/988416p1.html
The IGN breakdown of what they saw yesterday, as well as some time talking to Chet.
 

II Vincent II

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Daye.04 said:
quack35 said:
Didn't Left 4 Dead just come out?
Yeah, exactly. What's up with this? I mean .. Seriously. At least they could have hold back the release a couple of months in case they got these ideas ...
The Game Ain't Comin Out For Quite Sometime.

It's Probably Still In Production..Besides The Trailer Looks Great.
 

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II Vincent II said:
The Game Ain't Comin Out For Quite Sometime.

It's Probably Still In Production..Besides The Trailer Looks Great.
Do You Need To Capitalise Every Word?

But anyway, it's meant to be out in 6 months. One day short of a year after L4D came out.
 

II Vincent II

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wordsmith said:
II Vincent II said:
The Game Ain't Comin Out For Quite Sometime.

It's Probably Still In Production..Besides The Trailer Looks Great.
Do You Need To Capitalise Every Word?

But anyway, it's meant to be out in 6 months. One day short of a year after L4D came out.
I Can't Help It

It's A Bad Habit

Sorry
 

SP MeaslyBinkie

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I hope this comes with more "gameplay" content than just you can use melee weapons now which if they were going to add should really have been in the first game hopefully new special infected or something of that sort.
 

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Looks like its going to be interesting.

Though I do wonder why they don't just make it DLC instead but ah well I'm sure it'll be fun and I'll probably buy it.
 

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I've got a bag of crisps on my table that's older than L4D. Aren't they going to update L4D in the same manner as TF2?