Well if they're like the first one I'll be more than happy about this. To be honest I didn't mind the second and third that much, but the first is definitely a superior film. I'm cautiously optimistic about this.
I didn't think you guys read our comments. That's nice to see. That said I have a lot to contribute to this thread myself.Elizabeth Grunewald said:D'oh! Thanks much; duly adjusted.mindlesspuppet said:They're not called the Wachowski Brothers anymore, just the Wachowskis, cause you know, sex change and all that.
Woah.DustyDrB said:I can only picture his expression...Tom Goldman said:Reeves seems excited about the possibility...
Wait, I don't have to. Here it is.
Did he die? I don't remember that. He was carried off by the machines after defeating Smith. I always though it kind had a redeeming quality to it. Remember how Morpheus said there was once a man at the centre of everything who controlled the machines and he let the first humans out for them to build Zion? Isn't that the story coming full circle? Neo is now that man. That's what I always thought anyway.Suicideking said:No, Neo did not die seven times before that. A person with the same kind of powers as Neo has came to be in each form of the Matrix, and was set upon a similar series of events to remove that person from the Matrix so that it could then be reset. Yes each person died, but that doesn't mean they were Neo. Neo was apparently special because of his love of Trinity. Out of all of those that became "The One" he is the only one that had a single person he was in love with. So each "One" is different.darthotaku said:I see alot of people saying that he already died. when he met with the programer he said the died seven times before that. It will be a new reincarnation of neo.
If the new reincarnation of Neo was to appear, that should mean the Matrix was once again reset. Which would then leave huge gaps in what happened and would completely distance the new sequels from the originals, and basically would end up just being the first movie again.
The entire point of Neo's death in the third film was to ensure the destruction of Agent Smith. In order to rid the Matrix of Smith, Neo had to die. If Neo resurrects, then Smith, or some other super powerful agent, has to rise with him.Darth IB said:I'm cautiously excited. I know I can trust Matrix movies to be cool, if not good.
Also concerning the whole "Neo died in the third movie" business, you might recall that he also died in the first one, and got better. Also he's basically the Jesus of the Matrix (he's even in crucifix-position towards the end if I recall) so he could reasonably resurrect just because he's the one.
My understanding was that the One is, essentially, a glitch in the Matrix. A recurring pattern that causes the same sequence of events each time. The machines aren't sure how to compensate for it so they (on one level, ie Smith and the Agents) try to quash it whereas on a higher level (the Architect) they prepare for the cycle to begin again. Neo altered that by taking a third path, but how are we to know that what he did wasn't exactly the same thing all his predecessors did? For all we know, Neo himself could be a program insterted into a human body - we've seen it happen before, and it certainly fits with the cyclical theory, keeping the glitching program (and the human rebels) busy until the cycle burns itself out again.Suicideking said:No, Neo did not die seven times before that. A person with the same kind of powers as Neo has came to be in each form of the Matrix, and was set upon a similar series of events to remove that person from the Matrix so that it could then be reset. Yes each person died, but that doesn't mean they were Neo.
This explanation assumes that Neo, at any point in the movie, actually left the Matrix. It's entirely possible that he did not, and that Zion was merely another level of the Matrix. Or that everything the Architect said was bullshit. Practically everything we know about the world (or worlds) that these movies are set in is learned from other characters, many of whom have good reason to lie, so we can't take a lot for granted. Also, remember that Neo uses his powers in the "real world", lending further weight to the layers-within-layers theory.Suicideking said:If the new reincarnation of Neo was to appear, that should mean the Matrix was once again reset. Which would then leave huge gaps in what happened and would completely distance the new sequels from the originals, and basically would end up just being the first movie again.
Wasn't the whole point of his death to be a sacrafice so that there would be compromise?Suicideking said:The entire point of Neo's death in the third film was to ensure the destruction of Agent Smith. In order to rid the Matrix of Smith, Neo had to die. If Neo resurrects, then Smith, or some other super powerful agent, has to rise with him.
the_tramp said:I know it's the Matrix and he is the One and all but... didn't he die at the end of the 3rd film?
Oh yeah I was talking specifically about the 2nd and 3rd. The 1st is my favorite action movie, everything is done well and it's self-contained (they hinted at a sequel, but it wasn't strictly necessary with the story presented).That Guy Who Phails said:But the first one did both without breaking a sweat, this franchise has huge potential.necronmm said:Arrgh, they should focus on making the story interesting instead of "revolutionizing" the action genre.