[Update] Your Pokemon Black & White Starters Could Evolve Like This

nuba km

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Gigaguy64 said:
Wow.
these look Awesome!

Though i cant help but think that the Artists were playing Spectrobes while designing them.
And that's not really a bad thing.

Spectrobes gave me a Cactus Dragon.
CACTUS.
DRAGON.
And it is one of the coolest things i have ever seen.
The water type reminds me of
Just not quite as cool.
I quite like spectrobes I can't think of a cactus dragon though I have only played the first two. one thing I like about spectrobes is that each game is a clear improvement (the one for the wii looks like a improvement)
I see where you get the thought from especially with the fire one. which starter are you getting I'm gone get the pig starter (not calling it the fire starter) so i can have a demonic (as well as Greek) pig called Mr.Bacon.
 

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...Actually, those look pretty cool. Kinda makes it hard to pick a starter for the first playthrough (as soon as I get if, of course).
 

nuba km

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Man you guys are gullable
Before we begin, please refer to this charecter sheet.
http://pokebeach.com/news/0610/black-white-character-sheet.jpg
please compare the dragon and the bat to their revealed forms. You'll see that every detail down to the shading is perfectly insynch.
http://serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml

Here's another one.


Also, these gifs are coming to you from Suave Squirtal from the Serebii forms.



Bulbapedia stepped in during a discussion on /vp/ and made its official stance more clear

http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/2ch,_others_leak_heap_of_Black_and_White_info
See the big unconfirmed and rumour things on there? Bulbagarden's staff are mixed in opinion on this one at the moment. We're reporting on it simply because a number of sites have been running it as confirmed, but I'm personally leaning towards false right now.

Here's the low-down on why this is all up in the air.
1. When our staff were discussing this with the staff of other sites, they said they got this info from an inside source. If they got it from someone separate to Melkor of PokExperto, then the question is who, and how reliable they are as a source. They're refusing to reveal exactly who these sources are.

2. Serebii mentioned to RexRacer (the EiC of Bulbanews) that he had a number of the in-game sprites himself, however that Melkor had all the sprites. We've yet to see the sprites ourselves, so we can't confirm or deny if these are legit based on the info we have.

3. Melkor did get a big scoop with the previous generation in getting a full list of the new Pokémon names well before release (apparently from the same source Serebii had, they had a huge fight on the issue back then as I remember), which gives this a bit more credibility than it might have had otherwise.

4. The instant that these got out, multiple people were already claiming that they were fake and that they had been the ones to fake them, including different pictures of inspirations, etc.
Also, some more gifs














Now excuse me while I tear apart your sources
The pokemon fansite from Spain is the main cause of all this. He allegedly has "insider information" and once claimed to have the full game via his twitter. He posted this image:


1. The HP on the final forum of pokabu is lower than that of pokabu.
2. The names are wrong and belong to already existing pokemon
3. This screen shot belongs to a previously linked screen shot.
4. After the obvious fake was pointed out, this was deleted off of his twitter. However you can still see his website in the background.

There are other issues with his site and his alleged source, and I question as to why he won't show his sprites in private to Bulbapedia. His "confirmed" typings also differentiate between the ones leaked by 2chan that came with the images. Basically I'm calling this guy a liar.

What about Serebii, the "source who is never wrong." Hahahaa, you guys don't know him. Serebii posted that Arceus wasn't real. He then would delete any post to anyone who brough him up on the site when signs started to point towards him being true. Serebii was also NOT ONLY WRONG about Shaymin's alternative form BUT CLAIMED TO HAVE AN INSIDE SOURCE. This is not the only time Serebii has faked having an "inside source." He was triced by someone into thinking that Shellos was a prevo too Lapras by an "inside source"
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Shaymin

Serebii is a sociopath who strives to have the best pokemon fan site whatever the cost.
So, with our only two sources lacking in serious validity, and the art itself having HUGE problems, both from a manipulation point, as well as having HUGE basic artistic mistakes, I believe we can safely call these fake. Good day gentlemen.
This stupidity can only be done by a genius (I'm talking about you) have you looked at the concept art for delta in bioshock 2 nearly no similarities also the grass one has the most natural evolutions the arms and legs get smaller and the body gets longer. Other pokemon(even in the first generation) had much bigger leaps in evolution. Also NEARLY any pokemon has at least one body shape or part that looks like another pokemon this is because apart from the third generation pokemon are all the same style (sure there are some difference in each generation) this means that pokemon share similarities and with over 600 pokemons once this generation comes out they are going to share body shapes.
 

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Im now on Debate between Grass and Water, I was just going to use Grass this time instead of water (Like I normally do) When I saw the final water starter. (Im planning on not looking at anymore pokemon, make the experience fresh)
 

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Kyman102 said:
Look, people complaining about Pokemon Black and White. Please, do us all a favor.

Shut up. Stop decrying about how Pokemon has sucked since Red and Blue, stop obsessively rushing around forums speculating about these games to tell us how much they suck, and stop telling us how those of us looking forward to this game are stupid. Just shut up, nobody cares.

You're entitled to your opinions. I know that not everybody likes fifth gen. And, well, I'm sure most of us who still enjoy Pokemon just don't care. And frankly, I'd enjoy Pokemon discussions more if I didn't have to rake through people BAWing like some kind of Final Fantasy fanboy upset at the fact that Square-Enix DARED to make a game that wasn't FFVII.

So, if you hate it, don't buy it. I for one love the design for the Grass final evolution, and I enjoy the Water final form. I'm going to buy one of these games, and I'm going to play it, sink HOURS into it, and have a lot of fun. As will millions of other fans who are willing to enjoy this game.

So, please, if you don't think you'll like Pokemon Black and White... Just shut up.
One of the few intelligent people on this site....you have no idea how many times I have to fend off pokemon haters with a crowbar I stole from HL2 (Im not a fan of Half-life before you ask)
Seriously, I love the newer games better and thats not because I played them first, I played Red and Blue first but Im not one of those people who let Nostalgia cloud their vision. I know which ones are better.
 

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Until now I always picked the fire typ even before I knew how its final evolution would be like and I've never been disappointed. This time I guess I have to break my fire starter streak (If this pics are real).
 

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So, Smugleaf becomes Smugdragon.
Stupid otter thing turns into awesome fish-seal-narwhal-walrus-thing.
Fire pig turns into FUCKING SATAN GANON.

Reiem approves.
 

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Ciran said:
Um...no, Bulbasaur was a plant lizard (actually more of some generic reptile, but it was most definitely not just a bulb), Chikorita was a plant dinosaur, Treecko was a gecko, and Turtwig was a tortoise not a turtle, therefore a reptile.

EDIT: Even more evidence that Bulbasaur isn't a bulb is the pokedex entry from the first games: A strange seed was planted on its back at birth. The plant sprouts and grows with this Pokemon.

Therefore proving the being is separate from the plant.
person427 said:
Ciran said:
And why is the grass starter ALWAYS a reptile, can't they get a bit more creative than that?
They've only had one reptile. Bulbasaur was a plant bulb, Chickorita was a leaf, Treeko was a gecko, and Turtwig was a turtle(amphibian, not a reptile).
Turtles are reptiles.
The ability to be on land and in water makes them amphibious, not amphibians.

And it doesn't matter if they've had a lot of reptiles, they've all been adequately different from each other. This new one is no different, and besides, its easy to relate reptilian creatures to grass and trees and stuff.
It's indeed true that they've been adequately different, but after a while it starts to annoy when the two other starters have had such a variety of different ideas and forms take place. It may not matter to you, but obviously it does to me.

It's also true that reptiles are easily related to grass types, but it's also easy enough to relate insects, birds, monkeys, squirrels, and trees to grass and trees and stuff and all of those would be adequate and creative candidates for a starter. Not only that, but water has always stuck close to it's element and yet had variety and fire has had many creatures that have had nothing to do with it's element, pretty much anything after Charizard.
 

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CRASHiC said:
I thank you, I really do. I tried to make a similar arguement but had no sources to back up my distrust of Serebii, and the illegitmacey of the final evolutions. People need to realise that Serebii isn't to be trusted.
 

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If those are the actual starter.... it looks like this will be the first time I use the grass starter.
 

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I'm hoping the water doesnt turn to a water/fighting. Physical water types never really hold up well, (excpet maybe swampert, but I wouldnt exactly call him physical). Saying that, I dont know what else it would be.
 

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emeraldrafael said:
I'm hoping the water doesnt turn to a water/fighting. Physical water types never really hold up well, (excpet maybe swampert, but I wouldnt exactly call him physical). Saying that, I dont know what else it would be.
Poliwrath holds up quite well...in my opinion anyway.
 

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CRASHiC said:
Man you guys are gullable
Before we begin, please refer to this charecter sheet.
http://pokebeach.com/news/0610/black-white-character-sheet.jpg
please compare the dragon and the bat to their revealed forms. You'll see that every detail down to the shading is perfectly insynch.
http://serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml

Here's another one.


Also, these gifs are coming to you from Suave Squirtal from the Serebii forms.



Bulbapedia stepped in during a discussion on /vp/ and made its official stance more clear

http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/2ch,_others_leak_heap_of_Black_and_White_info
See the big unconfirmed and rumour things on there? Bulbagarden's staff are mixed in opinion on this one at the moment. We're reporting on it simply because a number of sites have been running it as confirmed, but I'm personally leaning towards false right now.

Here's the low-down on why this is all up in the air.
1. When our staff were discussing this with the staff of other sites, they said they got this info from an inside source. If they got it from someone separate to Melkor of PokExperto, then the question is who, and how reliable they are as a source. They're refusing to reveal exactly who these sources are.

2. Serebii mentioned to RexRacer (the EiC of Bulbanews) that he had a number of the in-game sprites himself, however that Melkor had all the sprites. We've yet to see the sprites ourselves, so we can't confirm or deny if these are legit based on the info we have.

3. Melkor did get a big scoop with the previous generation in getting a full list of the new Pokémon names well before release (apparently from the same source Serebii had, they had a huge fight on the issue back then as I remember), which gives this a bit more credibility than it might have had otherwise.

4. The instant that these got out, multiple people were already claiming that they were fake and that they had been the ones to fake them, including different pictures of inspirations, etc.
Also, some more gifs














Now excuse me while I tear apart your sources
The pokemon fansite from Spain is the main cause of all this. He allegedly has "insider information" and once claimed to have the full game via his twitter. He posted this image:


1. The HP on the final forum of pokabu is lower than that of pokabu.
2. The names are wrong and belong to already existing pokemon
3. This screen shot belongs to a previously linked screen shot.
4. After the obvious fake was pointed out, this was deleted off of his twitter. However you can still see his website in the background.

There are other issues with his site and his alleged source, and I question as to why he won't show his sprites in private to Bulbapedia. His "confirmed" typings also differentiate between the ones leaked by 2chan that came with the images. Basically I'm calling this guy a liar.

What about Serebii, the "source who is never wrong." Hahahaa, you guys don't know him. Serebii posted that Arceus wasn't real. He then would delete any post to anyone who brough him up on the site when signs started to point towards him being true. Serebii was also NOT ONLY WRONG about Shaymin's alternative form BUT CLAIMED TO HAVE AN INSIDE SOURCE. This is not the only time Serebii has faked having an "inside source." He was triced by someone into thinking that Shellos was a prevo too Lapras by an "inside source"
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Shaymin

Serebii is a sociopath who strives to have the best pokemon fan site whatever the cost.
So, with our only two sources lacking in serious validity, and the art itself having HUGE problems, both from a manipulation point, as well as having HUGE basic artistic mistakes, I believe we can safely call these fake. Good day gentlemen.
im not going to try to argue with you about the majority of your points. I dont know much about graphic art but I do know that the images leaked from the manga are concept art. You cant compare an alleged final image to a concept piece and call it fake because they dont look the same. Hell, they have even changed the designs of some pokemon after they have been released, look at raikou(sp?)
 

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kevo.mf.last said:
CRASHiC said:
Man you guys are gullable
Before we begin, please refer to this charecter sheet.
http://pokebeach.com/news/0610/black-white-character-sheet.jpg
please compare the dragon and the bat to their revealed forms. You'll see that every detail down to the shading is perfectly insynch.
http://serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml

Here's another one.


Also, these gifs are coming to you from Suave Squirtal from the Serebii forms.



Bulbapedia stepped in during a discussion on /vp/ and made its official stance more clear

http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/2ch,_others_leak_heap_of_Black_and_White_info
See the big unconfirmed and rumour things on there? Bulbagarden's staff are mixed in opinion on this one at the moment. We're reporting on it simply because a number of sites have been running it as confirmed, but I'm personally leaning towards false right now.

Here's the low-down on why this is all up in the air.
1. When our staff were discussing this with the staff of other sites, they said they got this info from an inside source. If they got it from someone separate to Melkor of PokExperto, then the question is who, and how reliable they are as a source. They're refusing to reveal exactly who these sources are.

2. Serebii mentioned to RexRacer (the EiC of Bulbanews) that he had a number of the in-game sprites himself, however that Melkor had all the sprites. We've yet to see the sprites ourselves, so we can't confirm or deny if these are legit based on the info we have.

3. Melkor did get a big scoop with the previous generation in getting a full list of the new Pokémon names well before release (apparently from the same source Serebii had, they had a huge fight on the issue back then as I remember), which gives this a bit more credibility than it might have had otherwise.

4. The instant that these got out, multiple people were already claiming that they were fake and that they had been the ones to fake them, including different pictures of inspirations, etc.
Also, some more gifs














Now excuse me while I tear apart your sources
The pokemon fansite from Spain is the main cause of all this. He allegedly has "insider information" and once claimed to have the full game via his twitter. He posted this image:


1. The HP on the final forum of pokabu is lower than that of pokabu.
2. The names are wrong and belong to already existing pokemon
3. This screen shot belongs to a previously linked screen shot.
4. After the obvious fake was pointed out, this was deleted off of his twitter. However you can still see his website in the background.

There are other issues with his site and his alleged source, and I question as to why he won't show his sprites in private to Bulbapedia. His "confirmed" typings also differentiate between the ones leaked by 2chan that came with the images. Basically I'm calling this guy a liar.

What about Serebii, the "source who is never wrong." Hahahaa, you guys don't know him. Serebii posted that Arceus wasn't real. He then would delete any post to anyone who brough him up on the site when signs started to point towards him being true. Serebii was also NOT ONLY WRONG about Shaymin's alternative form BUT CLAIMED TO HAVE AN INSIDE SOURCE. This is not the only time Serebii has faked having an "inside source." He was triced by someone into thinking that Shellos was a prevo too Lapras by an "inside source"
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Shaymin

Serebii is a sociopath who strives to have the best pokemon fan site whatever the cost.
So, with our only two sources lacking in serious validity, and the art itself having HUGE problems, both from a manipulation point, as well as having HUGE basic artistic mistakes, I believe we can safely call these fake. Good day gentlemen.
im not going to try to argue with you about the majority of your points. I dont know much about graphic art but I do know that the images leaked from the manga are concept art. You cant compare an alleged final image to a concept piece and call it fake because they dont look the same. Hell, they have even changed the designs of some pokemon after they have been released, look at raikou(sp?)
wow that was alot of text, though when you camplain about slight differences in smugleaf's concept art then just remember that it's only concept art, how about YOU draw any pokémon(squirtle for example)then chances are that if you draw it twice then chances are there will be slight differences, the shell might be bigger or the head has gotten wider etc.
 

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ghii3 said:
Josh12345 said:
kevo.mf.last said:
CRASHiC said:
Man you guys are gullable
Before we begin, please refer to this charecter sheet.
http://pokebeach.com/news/0610/black-white-character-sheet.jpg
please compare the dragon and the bat to their revealed forms. You'll see that every detail down to the shading is perfectly insynch.
http://serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml

Here's another one.


Also, these gifs are coming to you from Suave Squirtal from the Serebii forms.



Bulbapedia stepped in during a discussion on /vp/ and made its official stance more clear

http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/2ch,_others_leak_heap_of_Black_and_White_info
See the big unconfirmed and rumour things on there? Bulbagarden's staff are mixed in opinion on this one at the moment. We're reporting on it simply because a number of sites have been running it as confirmed, but I'm personally leaning towards false right now.

Here's the low-down on why this is all up in the air.
1. When our staff were discussing this with the staff of other sites, they said they got this info from an inside source. If they got it from someone separate to Melkor of PokExperto, then the question is who, and how reliable they are as a source. They're refusing to reveal exactly who these sources are.

2. Serebii mentioned to RexRacer (the EiC of Bulbanews) that he had a number of the in-game sprites himself, however that Melkor had all the sprites. We've yet to see the sprites ourselves, so we can't confirm or deny if these are legit based on the info we have.

3. Melkor did get a big scoop with the previous generation in getting a full list of the new Pokémon names well before release (apparently from the same source Serebii had, they had a huge fight on the issue back then as I remember), which gives this a bit more credibility than it might have had otherwise.

4. The instant that these got out, multiple people were already claiming that they were fake and that they had been the ones to fake them, including different pictures of inspirations, etc.
Also, some more gifs














Now excuse me while I tear apart your sources
The pokemon fansite from Spain is the main cause of all this. He allegedly has "insider information" and once claimed to have the full game via his twitter. He posted this image:


1. The HP on the final forum of pokabu is lower than that of pokabu.
2. The names are wrong and belong to already existing pokemon
3. This screen shot belongs to a previously linked screen shot.
4. After the obvious fake was pointed out, this was deleted off of his twitter. However you can still see his website in the background.

There are other issues with his site and his alleged source, and I question as to why he won't show his sprites in private to Bulbapedia. His "confirmed" typings also differentiate between the ones leaked by 2chan that came with the images. Basically I'm calling this guy a liar.

What about Serebii, the "source who is never wrong." Hahahaa, you guys don't know him. Serebii posted that Arceus wasn't real. He then would delete any post to anyone who brough him up on the site when signs started to point towards him being true. Serebii was also NOT ONLY WRONG about Shaymin's alternative form BUT CLAIMED TO HAVE AN INSIDE SOURCE. This is not the only time Serebii has faked having an "inside source." He was triced by someone into thinking that Shellos was a prevo too Lapras by an "inside source"
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Shaymin

Serebii is a sociopath who strives to have the best pokemon fan site whatever the cost.
So, with our only two sources lacking in serious validity, and the art itself having HUGE problems, both from a manipulation point, as well as having HUGE basic artistic mistakes, I believe we can safely call these fake. Good day gentlemen.
im not going to try to argue with you about the majority of your points. I dont know much about graphic art but I do know that the images leaked from the manga are concept art. You cant compare an alleged final image to a concept piece and call it fake because they dont look the same. Hell, they have even changed the designs of some pokemon after they have been released, look at raikou(sp?)
wow that was alot of text, though when you camplain about slight differences in smugleaf's concept art then just remember that it's only concept art, how about YOU draw any pokémon(squirtle for example)then chances are that if you draw it twice then chances are there will be slight differences, the shell might be bigger or the head has gotten wider etc.
Hey, i got an idea, lets turn this into the longest ever page of comments by continuously quoting this
ok but chances are a week from now someone will make an even LONGER post ranting about the westbrow baptist church or north korea or activison