US Air Force Confirms Existence of "Brony" Squadron

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TheEvilGenius said:
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Which would also explain other branches of the military basically having the same things. Come on man lighten up
Lighten up? I haven't stopped laughing at this since I saw the article. I think it's hilarious. That being said, I'm also Navy. As a member of one of the other branches of the military, I am duty bound to make fun of the Air Force whenever possible. Besides, it's one thing to like MLP (I do). It's another thing entirely to put it on your uniform. If a Marine Corps or Navy Pilot did that shit, he'd have been fucking HUNG. >_> At least, he would if he was around the pilots I work for.
Huzzah to you sir, and why not a Gummy patch or a Gummy pennant. He's semi aquatic. If you suggested that you'd become King of the Fleet, or boat crew, or other military/nautical term for a group of co-workers.
 

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I've seen like 3 or 4 episodes, and I don't get it. Every time I see it I say,"Yep. This is a show for little girls." The internet has made some funny things because of it but the show itself, I don't get it.
 

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Huzzah to you sir, and why not a Gummy patch or a Gummy pennant. He's semi aquatic. If you suggested that you'd become King of the Fleet, or boat crew, or other military/nautical term for a group of co-workers.
I get the feeling that a lot of my shipmates wouldn't take kindly to wearing crocs... duly noted, though.
 

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Zer0Saber said:
I've seen like 3 or 4 episodes, and I don't get it. Every time I see it I say,"Yep. This is a show for little girls." The internet has made some funny things because of it but the show itself, I don't get it.
It took me awhile to get into it, I always liked the art style and the things done with it but watching the show made me want to escape my skin. For me it took my friend poking me to watch it during our drinking nights. I found a character I really liked then saw her in a few awesome episodes and boom, watched the rest... well not that quick, it was pretty staggered but once I finished 2 seasons I was like "that was good" then soon I was like, dammit, I want more.
 

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military (as in: organisation with the express goal of killing and destroying), especially air force (doing so from far away and/or with long range means, as in: not confronting your opponent - or in this case: victim - personally) and MLP:FiM don't mix well. not at all, actually. kind of a perversion :/
 

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JenSeven said:
But this is really weird, in two days I recieved two warnings for posts that in the past wouldn't have raised an eyebrow.
There have been several new mods appointed recently, and a bunch of old mods have left, or so I've been told.

I dunno.
If the moderation feels different, I suppose that could be the reason.
 

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Genocidicles said:
You're forgetting about when people post pictures and gifs of ponies in threads that have nothing to do with them, so it's nowhere as simple to avoid them as you make it out to be.
Okay, I'd ask you to back up this claim.

Where? Where exactly are all these pony pics and gifs getting posted that have nothing to do with the thread?
If I pull up any random thread here, I certainly don't see any.

You're complaining about something that's all in your head, and nowhere near as bad as you're making out.
Genocidicles said:
there isn't a massive hatedom for Castle.
So let me get this straight, ... you hate MLP because people hate it?

Love that circular logic there.
 

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NinjazInside said:
To be honest there are better logos out there for militarys to use, but for in-training pilots who cares? It is a little joke for the group, can we get over this? A front-line military unit needs a intimidating or inspiring logo for its unit instead as its a time where things are serious, then again to counter that because its serious to help the nerves of the units you could have silly ones. But if you do, please ponies don't fly, have a bronie ground unit okay, but have some pegasus air unit and... manatee naval group?

And punctuation is not exactly the be all and end all as long as it is legible.

And also please remember the RAF is part of a military that was set up far before America even was a nation, they are a tad more traditional, so unless its the Scots who for now who knows if they are staying with Britain, they are real animals with motto's in Latin.
As soon as I read your post I knew that I just HAD to comment in order to post this video! I figure you'll approve. ^_^


IceForce said:
I grok your position, Ice. I dig what you're trying to achieve. But may I suggest that you just...let it go. You know what the "Ruulz" say about "feeding"? :)

OT: One of the time honored traditions in the military is soldiers giving and taking grief from other soldiers so that they can prove they're tough enough to take it. Just look at the comments by military personnel in this thread who have pointed out that it's their duty to grief members of other services--AND TAKE GRIEF FROM THEM AS WELL! :D

For example:

TheEvilGenius said:
kenu12345 said:
Which would also explain other branches of the military basically having the same things. Come on man lighten up
Lighten up? I haven't stopped laughing at this since I saw the article. I think it's hilarious. That being said, I'm also Navy. As a member of one of the other branches of the military, I am duty bound to make fun of the Air Force whenever possible. Besides, it's one thing to like MLP (I do). It's another thing entirely to put it on your uniform. If a Marine Corps or Navy Pilot did that shit, he'd have been fucking HUNG. >_> At least, he would if he was around the pilots I work for.
OT: It's a bit of light hearted fun. The News Story clearly states that the patch was originally a joke (the review board/officer probably approved it in kind) and that the pilots in question embraced the patch with ironic good humor.

They can "take it", in other words. And they're adapting and making the best of it.

Good for them.
 

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Worgen said:
Zer0Saber said:
I've seen like 3 or 4 episodes, and I don't get it. Every time I see it I say,"Yep. This is a show for little girls." The internet has made some funny things because of it but the show itself, I don't get it.
It took me awhile to get into it, I always liked the art style and the things done with it but watching the show made me want to escape my skin. For me it took my friend poking me to watch it during our drinking nights. I found a character I really liked then saw her in a few awesome episodes and boom, watched the rest... well not that quick, it was pretty staggered but once I finished 2 seasons I was like "that was good" then soon I was like, dammit, I want more.
Well that's how I convinced myself to watch MLP. One night when I was drinking I dared myself to watch it. It did feel weird watching it at first. After awhile though I felt comfortable with it and continued to watch them. At the time I was pretty depressed so the light hearted mood of the show appealed to me more. Not everyone's going to get it but they don't have to like it. There are a lot of trolls who target people who watch the show though. Plenty even came to this thread. That's why my avatar is what it is, if someone comments negatively on it I know they are trolls to be ignored. At least that was the idea, no one ever comments about it.
 

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No Rainbow Dash and sonic rainboom? /gasp

Sad to hear that the pilots aren't really big pony fans, but they have the good humor to enjoy it at least. :)

Worgen said:
Inquisitor Applejack frowns upon on your shenanigans.


No matter how much 40k stuff you post, I can counter it with cooler pony 40k stuff, its fun.
This image wins the thread! Proving that once again, everything is better with ponies.
 

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Copper Zen said:
I grok your position, Ice. I dig what you're trying to achieve. But may I suggest that you just...let it go. You know what the "Ruulz" say about "feeding"? :)
I hear what you're saying.

The funniest thing in all of this is that I've only seen a handful of episodes from the show myself. And I certainly wouldn't describe myself as a brony.

I just like to point out bullshit arguments when I see them, and call people out when it's obvious they're just making stuff up (as the numerous and countless examples in this thread show).
 

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IceForce said:
Copper Zen said:
I grok your position, Ice. I dig what you're trying to achieve. But may I suggest that you just...let it go. You know what the "Ruulz" say about "feeding"? :)
I hear what you're saying.

The funniest thing in all of this is that I've only seen a handful of episodes from the show myself. And I certainly wouldn't describe myself as a brony.

I just like to point out bullshit arguments when I see them, and call people out when it's obvious they're just making stuff up (as the numerous and countless examples in this thread show).
Funnier than that...? I've never seen an MLP episode!

Not-One-Single-Episode---EVER!!!

Instead, I've seen spoofs! ^_^

Like this one:


"Well, we did manage to get the hampsters to spontaneously combust. However, most of them went off in the first five seconds."

"Dammit! We at least need those hampsters to last for five minutes!"

I don't care about the lousy voice acting. NOPE!!!

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS SPOOF SERIES!!! ^_^
 

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Genocidicles said:
waj9876 said:
If you don't like it, stay the fuck away from it. Seriously. It's that simple.
You're forgetting about when people post pictures and gifs of ponies in threads that have nothing to do with them, so it's nowhere as simple to avoid them as you make it out to be.
This is of course a mostly irrelevant point since you are posting it in a thread entirely dedicated to pony with a side of the US Air Force.
It is a lot easier to avoid ponies if you don't go into threads about ponies, you see.
Also, would you mind backing up your claim? I've seen no end to the complaints of pony derails that apparently always happen here, giant image macros of pony for no reason pertaining to the thread and the like, but to be perfectly honest I've never seen them ever. Sure, there will be a pony image if the image pertains to the thread via a quote on it, but what you are complaining about is somehow mutually exclusive from what I've seen.
 

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TheOrb said:
Because it is a children's show and not supposed to be taken seriously. Game of Thrones (from what I can gather, as I have neither read nor watched them) is an, adult, serious series that is suitable to be deconstructed. MLP is a technicolour children's show trying to educate children on how to get friends. It's mundane and ridiculous at the same time. The high-pitched voices don't help either.
My friend, you haven't lived until you've deconstructed a children's show. It's fun because it isn't just "a show for children." It's "a show for children conceived and written by adults." One thing I've always found fascinating is deconstructing the approaches to getting children's attention some shows take. For example, take a show like the Suite Life of Zach and Cody. The whole show is centered around "shenanigans" that start small and progressively get more ridiculous. While the show tries to ground itself in reality with a semi-plausible setup, every episode is an exercise in stupidity and ridiculousness that is insulting to any child half their age, nonetheless one that is actually their age.

But a show like MLP isn't based in reality, and so the more ridiculous shenanigans are just a bit more forgivable. Not only that, they lend themselves to a lot more nuances within their art. For example, in this song:


There are two distinctive musical things going on, here. One is called a deceptive cadence which is sung by the evil pony at the beginning, and the other is an authentic cadence, sung by the nice pony at the middle and end.

This is important because the evil pony at the beginning is an evil creature disguised as the good one, and in this episode she's been disguised as the good one and tricking everybody (including her fiance) into thinking that she's the real deal. The good pony's name? Cadence. So the fake Cadence sings a deceptive cadence chord progression, and the real one sings and authentic cadence chord progression. True story. [http://www.equestrianbeat.com/2012/04/daniel-ingram-is-genius-kinda-old-news.html]

This sort of thing is why MLP has attracted the attention of so many adults. While a lot of it is fluffy and transparent, the creators often imbue something a little deeper and more meaty.
 

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I cant quote it because it got a warning, but I enjoyed how bibbles complained about ponies being infectious and pervasive and then minutes later posted fanart depicting his fandom messing with the pony world. There's a magical kind of hypocrisy there.

Also bibbles, you should really get some help if other peoples interests really affect you so heavily.


And for the record, I've never watched ponies, because the appeal never sunk in, but I have often heard its clever from sources who usually have decent judgement.
 

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Lilani said:
TheOrb said:
Because it is a children's show and not supposed to be taken seriously. Game of Thrones (from what I can gather, as I have neither read nor watched them) is an, adult, serious series that is suitable to be deconstructed. MLP is a technicolour children's show trying to educate children on how to get friends. It's mundane and ridiculous at the same time. The high-pitched voices don't help either.
My friend, you haven't lived until you've deconstructed a children's show. It's fun because it isn't just "a show for children." It's "a show for children conceived and written by adults." One thing I've always found fascinating is deconstructing the approaches to getting children's attention some shows take. For example, take a show like the Suite Life of Zach and Cody. The whole show is centered around "shenanigans" that start small and progressively get more ridiculous. While the show tries to ground itself in reality with a semi-plausible setup, every episode is an exercise in stupidity and ridiculousness that is insulting to any child half their age, nonetheless one that is actually their age.

But a show like MLP isn't based in reality, and so the more ridiculous shenanigans are just a bit more forgivable. Not only that, they lend themselves to a lot more nuances within their art. For example, in this song:


There are two distinctive musical things going on, here. One is called a deceptive cadence which is sung by the evil pony at the beginning, and the other is an authentic cadence, sung by the nice pony at the middle and end.

This is important because the evil pony at the beginning is an evil creature disguised as the good one, and in this episode she's been disguised as the good one and tricking everybody (including her fiance) into thinking that she's the real deal. The good pony's name? Cadence. So the fake Cadence sings a deceptive cadence chord progression, and the real one sings and authentic cadence chord progression. True story. [http://www.equestrianbeat.com/2012/04/daniel-ingram-is-genius-kinda-old-news.html]

This sort of thing is why MLP has attracted the attention of so many adults. While a lot of it is fluffy and transparent, the creators often imbue something a little deeper and more meaty.
As a person who knows bugger all about musical theory, I just see it as a few puns in the songwriting.
As a person who appreciates music, Jesus that was good.
 
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Do they also have tattoos on their asses depicting their special talents?

Yeah I know i've probably been ninja'd but I had to say it.
 

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TheOrb said:
Lilani said:
TheOrb said:
Because it is a children's show and not supposed to be taken seriously. Game of Thrones (from what I can gather, as I have neither read nor watched them) is an, adult, serious series that is suitable to be deconstructed. MLP is a technicolour children's show trying to educate children on how to get friends. It's mundane and ridiculous at the same time. The high-pitched voices don't help either.
My friend, you haven't lived until you've deconstructed a children's show. It's fun because it isn't just "a show for children." It's "a show for children conceived and written by adults." One thing I've always found fascinating is deconstructing the approaches to getting children's attention some shows take. For example, take a show like the Suite Life of Zach and Cody. The whole show is centered around "shenanigans" that start small and progressively get more ridiculous. While the show tries to ground itself in reality with a semi-plausible setup, every episode is an exercise in stupidity and ridiculousness that is insulting to any child half their age, nonetheless one that is actually their age.

But a show like MLP isn't based in reality, and so the more ridiculous shenanigans are just a bit more forgivable. Not only that, they lend themselves to a lot more nuances within their art. For example, in this song:


There are two distinctive musical things going on, here. One is called a deceptive cadence which is sung by the evil pony at the beginning, and the other is an authentic cadence, sung by the nice pony at the middle and end.

This is important because the evil pony at the beginning is an evil creature disguised as the good one, and in this episode she's been disguised as the good one and tricking everybody (including her fiance) into thinking that she's the real deal. The good pony's name? Cadence. So the fake Cadence sings a deceptive cadence chord progression, and the real one sings and authentic cadence chord progression. True story. [http://www.equestrianbeat.com/2012/04/daniel-ingram-is-genius-kinda-old-news.html]

This sort of thing is why MLP has attracted the attention of so many adults. While a lot of it is fluffy and transparent, the creators often imbue something a little deeper and more meaty.
As a person who knows bugger all about musical theory, I just see it as a few puns in the songwriting.
As a person who appreciates music, Jesus that was good.
The series is kinda completely full of great music. Have some highlights.

Art of the Dress

Winter Wrap Up

True True Friend
 

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I admit I was kinda disappointed to find out they were only doing it "ironically" (damn hipster logic), still, I applaud them for at least going through with it...

As for why adults like a show intended for children, I think it has to do with the show having a) good characters, b) well-written plots (...most of the time), and c) excellent music.

And don't let the really crazy ones deter you from the show and it's fandom. (Fuckin' nutters ruining it for everyone...)
 

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gmaverick019 said:
IceForce said:
Maybe it would be best if the mods just locked this thread? Unless it's an experiment to see how much mod wrath one thread can accumulate.
gmaverick019 said:
I will agree in that people love using the "straw man!/poes law!/logical fallacy!/ad hominem!/ /thread" reply to things, it can get a little old to see it as frequently as it is used to make the person feel like they won the "argument", even if they are right/factually true.
I'll echo what NameIsRobertPaulson said, and say that strawman arguments need to called out.

It's incredibly annoying and frustrating trying to discuss something with someone, and they keep twisting your words into things you're not actually saying.
I get what you mean, but you know, i could just say

"strawman"

and leave my reply as that, as what some people do, because you're misunderstanding me, I'm not meaning that it should never be called out, nor that people shouldn't form their arguments better, but what I meant was is that it shouldn't be people's go to defense in any discussion/argument, because it happens all too often where the person crying out "straw man! ad hominem! poes law!" are actually being a hypocrite by doing such things, and then the argument "slippery slopes" into childish arguments, which is why I try not to use them as the crux of an argument.
Thanks for that, those were my thoughts when I brought it up. I'm not well read in the area of argumentative conversation so when someone answers me with merely saying the examples you gave, I'm left in the dark about why my side of the argument is wrong. My usual process in these situations is to look up the definition of the accusation and reread my argument with that in mind. Unfortunately, the result is usually a misinterpretation(I assume more due to the limitation of text communication rather than a lack of understanding) on their end or we don't agree with the accusation. In the case of the latter, the argument changes to the way we argue than the subject that started it. It really is frustrating for all involved.

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Lilani said:

There are two distinctive musical things going on, here. One is called a deceptive cadence which is sung by the evil pony at the beginning, and the other is an authentic cadence, sung by the nice pony at the middle and end.

This is important because the evil pony at the beginning is an evil creature disguised as the good one, and in this episode she's been disguised as the good one and tricking everybody (including her fiance) into thinking that she's the real deal. The good pony's name? Cadence. So the fake Cadence sings a deceptive cadence chord progression, and the real one sings and authentic cadence chord progression. True story. [http://www.equestrianbeat.com/2012/04/daniel-ingram-is-genius-kinda-old-news.html]
Credit to the writers and voice actors, that was very well done.