US Air Force Confirms Existence of "Brony" Squadron

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The difference is those are all gender/age/demographic neutral classifications. Bronies specifically implies males, usually males too old to be considered children. Why not create a term that incompasses everyone that likes the show and call ourselves that instead.

every pony fan i've talked to male and female regardless of age has referred to themselves as a brony. it does encompass everyone if they want it to.

That seems incredibly bizarre since the term brony is clearly comes from fusing 'bro' and 'pony', and was initially created distinguish male fans of the show, regardless of what it means now. This is also complicated by the fact that there's another term for viewers who are female called "pegasisters".
Why call all fans of the show 'bronies' and not 'pegasisters'?

because bronies is what has caught on i guess. besides. you can think of the word bro as just a synonym for friend. which fits the theme of the brony fandom. of course if you want to call me a pegasister I'm hardly going to complain. certainly better than "******" and "horse fucker"

 

[Radoh]

Why call all fans of the show 'bronies' and not 'pegasisters'?

Because of all the female bronies I know and have talked to on the subject from chat and the real life variety, which number around ten or so, there is a 100% majority saying that Pegasister is the dumbest thing to call themselves.
Two of which actually get offended at the thought that they can't be bronies since they are girls, and are forced into the inferior title of pegasister instead.

Also as an aside, arguing semantics of names for fans suggesting that Bronies aren't like Whovians, Trekkies, etc because of perceived gender specificity is REALLY nitpicky.

 

[The Lunatic]

I find some humour in a fandom that prides itself on childish things to so often coming across as so desperate for the affirmation of it by detractors.

Like, seriously guys, people don't like MLP. People don't like obnoxious people whom have huge colourful animated avatars of characters from kid's shows.


That's one of the things you're just going to have to accept.

You don't need to drag a thread on for 8 pages in some desperate desire for acceptance.

Like whatever you want to like, but, shut up about it, we don't need to know you've seen fan art, nor that "Clopping" exists, you don't have to talk about it every time the topic comes up.

There's a line between "Fan" and "Creepy Obsessive".

Most people actually dislike the latter and are fine with the former, and most people assume they're being hated on for being the former, and instead come across as the latter.

 

[Mahoshonen]

I decided to watch a few episodes of FiM, and I came away with the conclusion that it is actually a pretty clever show. Having said that, I think I'm willing to come to a detente with the brony fanbase: I won't call them immature manchilds for liking a kids show (though I reserve the right to do so for other reason) and they won't fill me in on their MLP/'The Sound and the Fury' crossover fiction or whatever.

 

[Olas]

Why call all fans of the show 'bronies' and not 'pegasisters'?

Because of all the female bronies I know and have talked to on the subject from chat and the real life variety, which number around ten or so, there is a 100% majority saying that Pegasister is the dumbest thing to call themselves.
Two of which actually get offended at the thought that they can't be bronies since they are girls, and are forced into the inferior title of pegasister instead.

Also as an aside, arguing semantics of names for fans suggesting that Bronies aren't like Whovians, Trekkies, etc because of perceived gender specificity is REALLY nitpicky.

Nerds have a tendency to be nitpicky. There's been argument for decades whether Star Trek fans are Treckers or Treckies with neither term meaning anything at all accept being a different spelling.

I think brony and pegasister are dumb if meant to apply to everyone, especially since both were created to segregate the fanbase by gender. I don't really see what makes either inferior though, if anything pegasister seems more clever. But that's just my opinion, which doesn't really count for much I know.

If you and your friends prefer brony to pegasister who am I to argue, but that opinion it [a href="http://www.fanpop.com/clubs/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic/picks/results/838823/what-call-female-brony"]doesn't appear to be a universal [/a]

 

[Worgen]

I decided to watch a few episodes of FiM, and I came away with the conclusion that it is actually a pretty clever show. Having said that, I think I'm willing to come to a detente with the brony fanbase: I won't call them immature manchilds for liking a kids show (though I reserve the right to do so for other reason) and they won't fill me in on their MLP/'The Sound and the Fury' crossover fiction or whatever.

It's kind of weird how no one seems to realize that a lot of nerd culture is built around things that are technically for kids. The only real difference between mlp and everything else is that mlp was designed for girls, instead of boys. And no one likes girls things because they are full of cooties.

What the hell is mlp/'the sound and the fury' crossover fiction?

 

[IceForce]

I find some humour in a fandom that prides itself on childish things to so often coming across as so desperate for the affirmation of it by detractors.

I find humor in the fact that the detractors are grasping at straws, and resorting to making up reasons why they hate it, and reasons why they're even in this thread at all.

Why are they so desperate to make it known that they hate this one particular thing? Do they act like this towards every other thing in their lives they hate?

Like, seriously guys, people don't like MLP. People don't like obnoxious people whom have huge colourful animated avatars of characters from kid's shows.

That's one of the things you're just going to have to accept.

People are free to like and dislike anything they desire.

But the question remains: If someone has such an incredible undying and relentless hatred of this one particular thing, and it causes them much pulling of hair and gnashing of teeth, ... then why oh why don't they just keep away from it and stay out of threads about it?

THAT is the million-dollar question.

Like whatever you want to like, but, shut up about it, we don't need to know you've seen fan art, nor that "Clopping" exists, you don't have to talk about it every time the topic comes up.

Wait, what?
Bronies in this thread are talking amongst themselves about fan art and such, and YOU think they should all "shut up about it"? And that they "don't have to talk about it every time the topic comes up"?

lolwut?

uhh, you do realize this thread is a brony-related topic, right? You realize bronies are going to be talking about brony things in here, right?
You realize how ridiculous it sounds to tell them, in a brony thread, to "shut up about it", and "stop talking about it when the topic comes up", right?

You're criticising bronies for talking about brony things in a brony thread.

I'm sure I don't have to point out any further how ridiculous that is.

Oh, and the only people in here talking about clopping, are the "detractors".

 

[The Lunatic]

Rambling

To save you the effort, I'm going to keep this quick, and also to avoid "Talking about the topic every time it comes up".

(Although, notably, the topic we're discussing now is not specific to bronies and therefore technically has nothing to do with bronies beyond being the example in this instance.).

But, anyway.

You won't get anywhere with circular logic.

That's just not how it works. Sorry.

 

[Mahoshonen]

I decided to watch a few episodes of FiM, and I came away with the conclusion that it is actually a pretty clever show. Having said that, I think I'm willing to come to a detente with the brony fanbase: I won't call them immature manchilds for liking a kids show (though I reserve the right to do so for other reason) and they won't fill me in on their MLP/'The Sound and the Fury' crossover fiction or whatever.

It's kind of weird how no one seems to realize that a lot of nerd culture is built around things that are technically for kids. The only real difference between mlp and everything else is that mlp was designed for girls, instead of boys. And no one likes girls things because they are full of cooties.

What the hell is mlp/'the sound and the fury' crossover fiction?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sound_and_the_Fury

Basically I was just making as obscure a reference for subjects of crossover fanfiction as possible.

Good book, but you'll probably need cliffnotes to understand what the fuck is going on in the first half of the book.

 

[NearLifeExperience]

Oh dear. The world has gone absolutely banana nut butters..
What's next, a Dora wrestling federation? Sesame street ice hockey team?

This is well beyond the scope of my comprehension, I can tell you that for a fact.

 

[Worgen]

Oh dear. The world has gone absolutely banana nut butters..
What's next, a Dora wrestling federation? Sesame street ice hockey team?

This is well beyond the scope of my comprehension, I can tell you that for a fact.

Unlike those other shows, the new mlp is awesome.


This does a pretty decent job of explaining it.

But one thing to understand is that the new show is designed to be something that parents can watch with their kids, meaning we get things like the Big Labowski ponies.

Yes, they do show up in the show.

 

[NearLifeExperience]

*snippers*

Oh don't bother to try and convince me why this show is so great and all, I stopped trying to understand that a long long time ago. But what boggles my mind here is the fact that they have an actual brony squadron.. even if you're a legit brony, doesn't that sound slightly off? I mean, I'm a big fan of Transformers for instance, but I'd find a military division that calls itself 'The Decepticons' or something like that also freakin weird. I don't know why exactly, but I guess it just kind of chips away at the authority these people ought to have.

 

[Worgen]

*snippers*

Oh don't bother to try and convince me why this show is so great and all, I stopped trying to understand that a long long time ago. But what boggles my mind here is the fact that they have an actual brony squadron.. even if you're a legit brony, doesn't that sound slightly off? I mean, I'm a big fan of Transformers for instance, but I'd find a military division that calls itself 'The Decepticons' or something like that also freakin weird. I don't know why exactly, but I guess it just kind of chips away at the authority these people ought to have.

Really, its almost no different from something like transformers, the age target isn't different, the main difference is the gender target.

Chances are there are at least a few transformer named squadrons, the story says each class chooses a patch and ones in the past have based on other pop culture things like "Hangover, Facebook, and "Got Milk"" so I would be really surprised if there wasn't an autobots or decepticons one. Ultimately being in the military is about teamwork and if something like this helps the class work better together then it filled its function.

 

[MoeMints]

Really, its almost no different from something like transformers, the age target isn't different, the main difference is the gender target.

Please do not tell me you're comparing the cartoons themselves as "almost no different".
That's like King of the Hill, Lucky Star, South Park, TMNT, and K-on are all the same just because they use the four man system of personalities.

If not, my apologies.

 

[Worgen]

Really, its almost no different from something like transformers, the age target isn't different, the main difference is the gender target.

Please do not tell me you're comparing the cartoons themselves as "almost no different".
That's like King of the Hill, Lucky Star, South Park, TMNT, and K-on are all the same just because they use the four man system of personalities.

If not, my apologies.

No, I'm comparing something like transformers to mlp. Both are released by hasbro, both could be seen as 30 minute toy commercials (although it seems like transformers is a bit more of that since it seems more toyetic.) and both are targeted at children. As I said before, the main difference is that one is aimed at boys and the other is aimed at girls. Cartoons do have the stigma as something for kids, but I've been watching them long enough to know that's bullshit. Hell, just watch something like Panty and Stalking. Anyway, I'm not saying that.

 

[TheUsername0131]

[TL;DR ? Nothing Here, I made so many fallacies that not reading this would be the preferred choice.]

Anything that becomes too big a presence online becomes the target of such hostility, with many ?spoiling for a fight. This has gone on for as far back as 35500 B.E. (Before Internet.)

Long before the information age, men fought and accused each other, there was much general distrust and unflattering accusations of misappropriate behaviour.

Fandoms as a whole have a taint of stigmatism about them, no matter how minor it may be will cause a kneejerk response, an implicitly aggressive one.

All fandoms have those few spoiled apples. ?One rotten apple spoils the whole barrel.?
The sorts of people whose unhealthy obsession causes shame and embarrassment in others by association. In others, it will cause them to cringe.

Using phrase and terms like: ?Innocence proves nothing,??HERESY!? ?EXTRA HERESY!? ?BURN THE HERETIC,? ?FOR THE GLORY OF THE IMPERIUM!? and other such delightful turns of phrase that becomes a mnemonic reflex to the point of euphoric 15th centaury ?witch-hunt? driven fervour, not unlike sanctimonious, self-righteous condescension, only much more fun. A feeling of scornful contempt towards things? anything really.

[Anyone who disagrees should get into their groups of friends and play a fun game of accusing others of heresy. You will find even the most introverted otherwise stoic people become as affluent and sinister as Archdeacon Claude Frollo. Heck, any game not unlike the Mafia (party game), etc. Will foster an immediate sense of camaraderie and community. Retorting to any remark with the phrase ?blasphemy? and ?heresy? is infectious fun. (Or maybe that?s just me.)]

There are those who find camaraderie when they share a common hatred (and other mutually shared interests notwithstanding.) It is in this temper that they find the magic? of friendship.
*Deliberate pun.*

There is a cruel joy to be had at the expense of others, accusing them of being debauched, depraved, dissolute, degenerate and other words starting with ?D.?

Not sure where I was going with that, changing my post?s topic.

The pilots are using an allusion to a show. ?My little Pilot: Flying is Magic.?
Such a reference can easily be dismissed as a send-up, satire. Or by an overt stretch, plausible deniability.

Now for fun I will suggest that the progenitor of the show sighed/struck a Faustian pact to ensure that the show would be well received. As always with such infernal bargains always come with a terrible price by way of wording. That the show will be well received, but by whom?

There is much to be said about: ?people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.?
As has been stated on numerous occasions in this thread.

We are all Nerds/Geeks/Weirdos here:
Look at how the media portrays us as ?gamers.? As childish-foaming-mad-violent-hoodlums!
Yet no one here would claim to identify as such, especially those dubious claims of being involved with public shootings.

Who here would claim that by virtue of playing videogames that they are misogynists?

We all ride on a bandwagon, and rundown anyone that gets to close. We all have an immediate dislike to any minority that gets vocal. We all call foul of threats that do not exist.


To those whose insult fails to cause a reaction, falling on death ears is one that is wasted.

For the gentleman who made his honest displeasure of that community to be known to others. Unlike others, he isn?t trolling. These last four years of escalation has made him incredibly uncomfortable to the point that he feels like the only sane man in a mad world.

He is predisposed to viewing this in the most pessimistic light. A probable outcome if the conditions where an even split between: accepting, neutral or adverse.

This is a man who has been driven to the edge, and needs help from a supporting community:
Arguing with someone who is angry will make them more angry.
Attempts to appeal to them based on formal discourse will make the applicant sound smug.
Attempting to settle him down by way of compromise will make the negotiator sound like an apologist of the most disputed sort.

No that is not grounds for a stealth conversion/assimilation/invitation, if your being nice just so that he can see ?the light,? ?the magic of friendship,? then its rendered moot. Showing him an image of what he perceives as a threat consorting with what he holds dear is going to, and has aggravated the situation. The situation being that he perceives it as an intrusive and destructive phenomena.

There is no point in hating him, cautious optimism and hugs, yes?
Or you can just tell him to deal with it. But that would only perpetuate the grimdark.

Or maybe it?s all hyperbole and he is responding as such because he is getting enjoyment from so many people going to the effort of defending something. In that case I?ve been duped.

Any fandom can be easily portrayed as something of a creepypasta story. NO fandom is free from suspicion. Nothing is sacred, comedy is always at someone?s expense (even if it?s your own.)

 

[FilmDude89]

Well.. Whatever makes life in the military easier I suppose.
I don't understand this MLP phenomenon but to each their own. I must admit that some of the more.. enthusiastic members of the MLP fan base kind of irritate me to some degree, But everything has its ups and downs.

 

[Hunter Creed]

I don't care about any argument made in favor of this bullshit. The ponies are an infectious plague, and will be dealt with as such.

Inquisitor Applejack frowns upon on your shenanigans.

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No matter how much 40k stuff you post, I can counter it with cooler pony 40k stuff, its fun.

This is exactly the kind of bullshit I'm talking about, you infect something and force ponies on everything you find. It's why I don't go to conventions for fear of losing control and winding up in prison.

Yes because MLP is the only fandom that does that...

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Oh no! Hello Kitty is invading Gundam!

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Oh no! Hello Kitty is invading Warhammer 40k!

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Oh no! Warhammer 40k is invading Star Wars!

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Oh no! Star Wars is invading Men of War!

This is such a strange and very rare phenomenon. People that love multiple things and wanting to cross those things over. If only there was a term for such an odd thought. Like crossovers.

It's why you'll see Hello Kitty 40k armies or Star Wars 40k armies. It's why you'll see tens of thousands of pictures, photoshopped to add in characters from other franchises. Or mods for games that incorporate characters from other games or movies. Because when you have an interest in two different things, you might want to see those two things mix. You get the best of both worlds.

Just because a fan base is large and has a lot of people who like to create stuff, then people post their work, doesn't mean they or the fandom need to die. Sure, the ridiculous amounts of stuff that seem to weasel into oh so many threads should slow down. But getting all mad and throwing a temper tantrum, then slinging around a bunch of hate because you don't like that fan base isn't the way to go. If you don't like it, fine, but lets not sling around a bunch of anger and hatred because you don't like something. This may surprise you, but different people like different things and certain people like to show it more than others.

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Yes, I know. What an amazing concept. Yes, being *forced* to look at stuff you don't want to see can be annoying. But that doesn't mean you need to go postal on the entire fan base and sit there with a voodoo doll wishing ill fortune on all who had the misfortune to have tastes that differ from your own.

There are a lot of fan bases that can be pushy and run around posting things from their fanbase that others may not like. But strangely enough, most people are mature enough to not hop up onto their computer chair screaming with righteous vigor; immediately leaping into action like a cheetah on a trampoline, mashing buttons as quickly as possible, using all the obscenities and hateful words that pop into their empty fuckin' heads.

Most just ignore said post and continue on with their day. Yes, seeing too much stuff you don't like is annoying, but try to just ignore it and go on with your day. I mean, do you honestly think that calling people names, wishing them death and disease will make them stop posting images or liking the show and wanting to show their love?

If you know anything about the fan base, you would know that will just get even more fans posting 'love and tolerance' gifs and all that happy horse (no pun intended) shit. Bets are you know that full well and just like to revel in the hate (read: tolerance). But if you aren't; if you're seriously some anonymous crusader out for the blood of bronies -

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See ya.

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Hunter C. Creed

 

[Blunderboy]

Well, that escalated quickly eh?
*sigh*

OT - Cool for them I guess. Still not sure how I'd feel about serving pilots wearing them.

 

[chinangel]

Firstly, have you considered anger management therapy?

Secondly... this is not the 41st century, there is no God-Emperor of Mankind, and the Ordos Malleus is not going to smite someone for liking My Little Pony. Calling them "Pony-Fags" isn't gonna help your side of the argument either.

I've been to anger management, it doesn't help.
I just use those pictures because they're convenient, I'm broadly aware of the millennium we live in.

Ordos Malleus might not smite them, but I will. I've lost friendships over this crap, I can't take it anymore. I'm not some keyboard warrior or forum troll, this is what I really believe. The pony crap needs to end.

Here's a hint: it won't. Like people who decried pokemon as being the antichrist and whatnot, Pony's are unlikely to go away anytime soon, so really you're only choice is to deal.

You're a rather vocal minority who is acting pretty childish. The pony thing may irritate and upset you but look at it this way:

Who made you click the link? No one. Nobody threatened you if you refused. You made the choice to come in here and rage, as opposed to leaving it alone and going somewhere else.

That is why people find your arguments silly and don't have much time for you and think you're a troll: you come into a forum that is discussing something you clearly don't like with what appears to be the intent to stir up trouble.

A suggestion in the future? Walk away, you see something pony-based you dont' like? What away, because your one-man crusade is only going to be responded with scorn and pity whereas silence will bring nothing against you.

Bit Orwellian? maybe, but in this case you're the architect of your own misery.