Valve Delivers Blizzard-esque Dota 2 Trailer

[Ickorus]

I love Valve's marketing campaign:

Hire Icefrog - Don't mention it.
NOTHING
DOTA 2 in development!
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Couple of pictures of characters
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Gabe Newell chats with random people about how awesome DOTA 2 is and how he can't stop playing it.
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DOTA 2 TOURNAMENT!

Too bad I won't be able to watch this tournament live, I have stuff to do this week and probably won't get the chance to watch until afterwards.

 

[thirion1850]

Oh HELL YEAH. EARTHSHAKEEEEEEER~!

Hope they redesigned Kardel's ultimate btw. But either way, HELL YEAH!

 

[Mathak]

The most important question they can answer for me is... will it have Lina Inverse in it?

... =P

Why yes it will.

Spoiler

 

[Vhite]

Wow, and I though that FPS games have problem with copying. I have never played DotA properly but even I can see there some copied heroes which were already copied by 2 other games.

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

Riot Games, no doubt, finds this ridiculous.

Well compared to their trailer of LoL, DoTA2's trailer looks slow and I'm getting a crazy Ashe vibe from the archer.

You too? I was basically like "thats ashe..." Im staying with LoL. Too good of a game in my opinion and well balanced.

 

[Vhite]

Also, I didn't mention it before, but I don't really feel that this looks as good as a Blizzard cinematic. Maybe, MAYBE an in-game cutscene.

Oh and this. Nowhere near the Blizzard quality of animation. It kinda reminds me Borderlands actually.

 

[ShadowyMOON]

Okay, two things.

1. If you've never played DotA before and don't know what it is, and you're excited about this game simply because of the trailer and because its made by Valve, I'm going to save you a lot of trouble right now:

Either go try out DotA and get your teeth cut, or settle down. Because this game is highly competitive, its community is notoriously vicious, unforgiving and unwelcoming, and its learning curve is incredibly high. Half of the people who go into this game as newbies will be driven away simply because of how terribly unwelcoming it is.



2. For those who are familiar with games like HoN and LoL and DotA, I bid a question. Why should I migrate?

I'm very familiar with all the heroes in HoN, all the strategies and items. It has all the important necessary features (A fully fledged replay system, reconnection, matchmaking), what could DotA possibly offer that HoN or LoL doesn't already have? Honestly, any additional features they put in would just be a silly gimmick.

Someone give me a compelling argument as to why the current MoBA fans here are actually excited for DotA 2.

Is it just for nostalgia's sake? Because I don't know.

+1 for epic post.

I guess only DotA players that haven't moved to LoL/HoN will play it or newbies new to the genre who will then get smacked about and quit.

I am honestly dissapointed in Valve.

 

[Serum211]

I see three possible futures when this game comes out:

1. Its good enough too take big chunks from both the LoL and HoN communitys, which would kill HoN, but LoL would live on.
2. Its a DotA rip off right down to the core, but its good enough too take away a part the HoN community, but not the LoL since LoL is actually diffrent from DotA.
3. Its isn't better then either HoN or LoL, so it dies within a year or so.

Bottom line is: DotA 2 will not be able to kill LoL. It might be able to kill HoN, but I doubt it.

 

[Zarmi]

Reading this thread makes my head hurt. The point of DotA2 is merely to improve upon DotA. Meaning, more balance (if possible) and better graphics. You can't really do much else. It's to give DotA the "next step". And after all, the game will be free, so... I'm not complaining.

Only thing that troubles me is the amount of ignorant people around here. DotA2 is getting made, deal with it. DotA has been copied before, and will always be, because guess what! It's successful! Many of us are happy, because.. you know.. we need a proper esport version of DotA.. Not really the casual version that is LoL, just saying. Sure, we got the old one, but new and shiny is always a positive.

People are stupid, and I bet I managed to piss of a few people here, hopefully. /thread.

 

[ZeroDotZero]

I will get the game (provided its free), but I think this trailer is very poor. I can't tell what's going on in most of the action sequences. Everything seems clustered and messy. I think that's the difference between this and a Blizzard trailer, a Blizzard trailer is always crisp and clear and the action is direct and unconvoluted.

 

[IpunchFaces]

"THE HEORS LOK THE SAEM AS DOTA WHY VARLVE WHYYY?!?!??!!!?!"

Hello, people? It's called Dota TWO for a reason.


Jesus. The game isn't even out yet and the people in the community are already shitting on each other's heads.

 

[Tarrker]

Boooo, Dota. Who wants to bet players will be acting like they are "pro" on day one of the launch and expecting you to be the same.

 

[standokan]

I'm always interest in what Valve has to offer.

 

[Crazie_Guy]

Don't we have enough hooded frost archer chicks?

 

[Madkipz]

If I understand correctly, Valve hired the guy who made the original. So arguments about quality are debatable.

You don't understand correctly. DotA was originally created by Eul. It was then taken, without permission, and made into DotA Allstars by Guinsoo. After being hired by Riot, Guinsoo then handed it off to IceFrog.

The saddest part of this whole thing is that the real creator and popularizer of DotA hasn't gotten any of the credit because kiddies can't be bothered to get their facts straight. Apparently, the real way to break into the game industry is simply to steal someone else's work.

Icefrog was the one to make the mod have something remotely resembling balance though.

it doesnt matter, though some originalty goes a long way in this genre.

 

[Madkipz]

I see three possible futures when this game comes out:

1. Its good enough too take big chunks from both the LoL and HoN communitys, which would kill HoN, but LoL would live on.
2. Its a DotA rip off right down to the core, but its good enough too take away a part the HoN community, but not the LoL since LoL is actually diffrent from DotA.
3. Its isn't better then either HoN or LoL, so it dies within a year or so.

Bottom line is: DotA 2 will not be able to kill LoL. It might be able to kill HoN, but I doubt it.

HON is a dota clone just like dota2 so naturally the worst game will die out.

Don't we have enough hooded frost archer chicks?

NEVER!

 

[Fenixhart]

The way A friend explained it to me was that HoN essentially repackaged the mod, where as LoL had some differntiaton from it.


But all in all, this whole thing reeks of stupid. When you have a game go through three difereny realizations and people can pick out and call out names of Champon almost at an instant, I really don't think there is much future for this game.

Maybe a few handful of the rabid fans, but beyond that, it sounds like just more of the same game repackaged-for a thrid time...

 

[qeinar]

blizzard is awesome at making trailers, nearly as awesome as valve. : p i'll probably try this game, used to play a shit ton of dota back in the day.

 

[Malk_Content]

Orcs and elfs = Blizzard, got it.
Seriously thought, how is this "Blizzard-esque"?

Mostly because I could make that exact same trailer with cutscenes from different blizzard games. I am actually dead serious that most of that trailer is a 100% rip off of blizzards cutscenes with new animation. Also valve bribed the guy who was working on dota, not the guy who origionally created it but the guy who was updating a basically stolen version.

When you say bribed do you mean hired? Though I guess the two could be considered on and the same? I like the idea of that having a job and just receiving a series of bribes for what I do.

The rest I kind of agree with, though the trailer does have more of the Valve style to it considerng VA and pacing. But its hard to make a game look different when they are essentially selling (for free) the same product/characters with just some professional polish.

 

[mic1402]

Ah daaammm. Heh. well im looking forward to it. It will probably be free anyway. by the time it comes out i will most likely be bored of LOL. i wonder if they will fix the awful UI from dota/hon i mean seriousouly i tyied out HON when it became free, i have lost 4/4 games. you can't see whats going on and how the hell to you use the shop?