I just hope we don't have the same community that the orginal DOTA had... I also kept thinking that the TF2 theme song would pop out at the last second..
Whu? But...*Sigh* Every single one of the champions you just mentioned had some form of inspiration drawn to them from one of the heroes you just saw.Fortesque said:Oh, Hey Ashe, Hey Sion, Hey Skarner, Hey Nocturne, Hey Malphite, Hey Galio!!!
Poor form Valve, poor form.
You are aware that DotA2 will be mostly likely free to play right? Considering Valve's history with this sort of thing, ie. Alien Swarm, TF2ZiggyE said:stealing a free mod from another game's community and charging for it without acknowledging the actual creators.
And yes, i know there was a female archer with frost attacks in DOTA as well. I played WC3 for a really long time. Still waiting for the nonexistant WC4FeralDynasty said:I saw a token female archer character. Then she shot an arrow made of ice and i said f*** this im not gonna pay for LoL.
I understood that all perfectly. But i've been playing LoL for over a year now. What are lanes, pushing for what, what is a build, what is an ace, you described it all very well but only for people who have played a MOBA before and the person asking had never played one. -2 stars for helpfulness.Shjade said:Eh, gameplay is sorta...monotonous, really. Games are typically broken up into early-game (aka: "Laning phase"), mid-game (typically a roaming phase, where people start moving into other lanes/pushing hard in groups/working for map control), and late-game, where people start getting their builds together and teamfights have a more major impact on the outcome of the game (early teamfights can set one side ahead of the other, but rarely are they game-winning on their own; a late-game ace, on the other hand, tends to end the game right there if the winning side didn't die off as well). You kill a lot of minions that aren't paying attention to you to get gold while also attacking your opponents to try to stop them from killing YOUR minions for gold as well. Some of the above games emphasize killing your opponents over farming, others (LoL I know for certain) focus on the minion-farming and more or less discourage direct assault on your opposing champions until later on in the game. Economy differences, mainly.Eggbert said:What is gameplay like in these things, anyway? I keep hearing about them, but I've never tried any. I do love the trailer, though.
One thing they all have in common, unfortunately, is incredibly insular, intolerant, and generally crappy communities. One need look no further than a thread on the LoL forums detailing their community's relationship with Brazilian players to see what I'm talking about, or browse a few threads griping/laughing about how much trolling goes on in games, and so on. It's worse than I ever saw in the WoW hardcore arena/pvp community, which is saying something.
All in all, DotA-style games are an okay distraction without much depth that tend to be plagued by jerkass communities.
Amen. I just felt alienated from this community a bit more, since apparently I don't share the same blind enthusiasm...VileTerror said:I can honestly say I wouldn't pay good money (or even bad money, or any money at all) for a piece of . . . that.
It looks way too mundane. Nothing about that trailer sparked excitement or interest for me.
Earnest? I'd appreciate it if you avoided such generalizing colloquialisms in the future. For that crime, the entire game industry is guilty enough as it is. Particularly in the marketing departments.
Isn't this basically their default modus operandi?Mr.K. said:TF2 trailer mixed with WC3 trailer, looks good.
But it makes me quite uneasy Valve is so blatantly taking over someone elses idea to make money off it.
I understand if they want to expand into new waters but for gods sake do something a little different.
They hired one of the Dota guys, and it's only someone that came in later.Pedro The Hutt said:I don't see how it surprises you that they took in the Dota guys to make Dota 2.
Oh I know exactly how they feel and worse. I'm a fan of Starship Troopers, one of the most criminally under-referenced source of military science fiction right next to Lensman.fi6eka said:True, true.But you have to wonder how do Dune or Laserburn fans used to feel when GW ripped their space opera off .Nouw said:Food for Thought:Blizzard fanboys don't feel so good now that their game is being 'copied' do they?
[sub]Yeah I went there.[/sub]