Most people who talk are online are not the people you actually want to talk to online.
So fuck that, i'll be silent thanks.
So fuck that, i'll be silent thanks.
Valve Guy Says British Gamers Need to Speak Up
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Yes, you're certianly top dog. Remind me again how the Best Country In the World's military offensives are going in Afghanistan after 8 years?Therumancer said:
Or how your economy is doing? What's the deficit up to now?
Or! Let's move on to firearms homicide rates [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence#Homicides_by_country].
And teen pregnancy rates [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_pregnancy#Global_incidence] - guess that education system you're paying through the nose for is paying off.
How about obesity/overweight rates? [http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/overwt.htm]
Or perhaps your government? With someone who could barely operate a computer less than a year ago trying to push a Net Neutrality bill through Congress? Clearly there's no companies pushing their own personal views via donations there. Oh no, your government is a bastion of purity.
Not to mention your political system being so wraught with pathetic party politics, underhanded dealings, lobby interest groups and voter apathy. The vast majority of your citizens seemingly have no qualms with quoting the Constitution having never even read it.
Best country in the world - Ha! By what standards?
I've not even got a real beef with Americans or America as a whole. When I visited eight years ago, most everyone I met was a decent enough person. Don't pull "Best country in the world" on me though, because there's no such thing. And if there was, it certainly isn't America.
The day your economy collapses because of reliance on Chinese Loans [http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/23/opinion/23iht-edchina.3259616.html] and the like will be a day in which the planet turns its head at the once great giant who had it all and blew it away in their own arrogance and sheds a single tear because of what they could have been and what they weren't.
So once again - I ask you, "Best Country"? By what standards?
Yes, I am awfully ill-informed about this, for I am just a poor, stupid Brit.
Bollocks. I chit-chat when I'm paying. It's just that the ratio of Americans to British on these types of things tend to be skewed the other way. It's got bugger all to do with us being quiet.
Besides ALOT of people online are very, very racist towards us because of our accents (this is what I've observed from rude American fuck wits who boot me for my accent.) Not all Americans are like this but some people are, the things that I'm always hung up on is that the fucking adults do this more than the teenagers.
So, we're not quiet you're just loud!
Besides ALOT of people online are very, very racist towards us because of our accents (this is what I've observed from rude American fuck wits who boot me for my accent.) Not all Americans are like this but some people are, the things that I'm always hung up on is that the fucking adults do this more than the teenagers.
So, we're not quiet you're just loud!
Did... did this actually happen?lazy_bum said:
I'll tell you what. You give me their addresses, then just turn around and pretend you don't hear the gunfire. I mean... jeez.
It's good you understand your rights stating on the majority of national laws and constitutions. It shows that you are aware of what has been handed down to you and that you know how to use it. However you have to be aware that with freedom comes responsibility.Therumancer said:
Sure, I can go into a mosque with a bag full of bacon bits, sprinkling everywhere and tossing it at people while shouting "Your god is false and you live a lie! All hail Xenu!" into a megaphone, but by doing such a thing I have to be responsible for my actions, and if I happen to get my ass beaten within an inch of my life for doing so then it's my fault I was stupid enough to go out and intentionally ruffle a few feathers. One cannot expect to throw rocks at a hornets' nest and not expect to get stung.
I don't care if you exercise your nationally granted right, however don't expect to say anything you and expect people to accept the cop out of an excuse of "First Amendment" when the angry mob busts down your door.
Even if you are on the Internet, you are on a site which requires you to have a profile to post (eliminating anonimity), meaning that you can and will be held responsible for your actions if you offend enough people.
I've found the more North you go in England the more talkative the players get, Yorkshire being by far the most talkative lot i've ever met. In fact one guy I used to live with used to leave his mic on constantly, music up on full and shout continually about everything that happened- it was at least relevant and useful but the shouting still annoyed people.
Personally though, being southern English, i've never once uttered a word in an online game unless i was playing with friends in private chat. It just isn't appealing....
Personally though, being southern English, i've never once uttered a word in an online game unless i was playing with friends in private chat. It just isn't appealing....
I'm not sure if anyone's answered this, but I'll make sure you get the answer: it's from Giants: Citizen Kabuto, which was a really great game that I highly recommend. You can get it from gog.com.Woodsey said:
I hardly ever use my mic on the 360. I only use it to chat to friends really. Like most people have said though, one thing that has drawn me away from general voice chat is the screaming shouting kids, or people who play rubbish music really loud in the background.
The last time I've met a british man and an american online is during WoW. One was a tank for a raid. The other was a healer.
They cost me 70g of repairs..
They cost me 70g of repairs..
It was odd. They were both arguing about accents and I had to shut vent for a while. I learned later that the British guy moved out from London to Canada. Anyway, the conversation wasn't pretty.Amnestic said:
So what you're saying is America is the best place in the world and everyone else should be thankful to you because you're keeping it safe? I've always felt that most global violence was caused directly or indirectly by America. Not that that clears Britain of any involvement in this but you have to admit you like your wars.Therumancer said:
Saying that what Britain was up to during the colonial period was worse than what America is up to now is like saying that what you did as a child is worse than anything you did as an adult. The world doesn't work that way anymore and if Britain did try it now we'd quite rightly get our asses handed to us.
America is trying to have an empire in a time where empires are a really bad idea, it just shows that your country hasn't learnt from our mistakes.
Oh and no matter how much you may believe it is "nicer" to point out that you saved us in two world wars, it doesn't negate the fact it doesn't need saying at all. We're not suddenly going to magically see your side of it just because you've repeated the same thing that everyone else has.
As silly as your accents are, I won't judge you for it, I just wish other Americans weren't such donkey humpers
from what I gathered from this thread:
1. americans are boisterous and chatty
2. Britians are quiet and arrogant
lovely, but I'd perfer the chatty
1. americans are boisterous and chatty
2. Britians are quiet and arrogant
lovely, but I'd perfer the chatty
Suiseiseki IRL said:
However, in this case I am mostly being yelled at for saying things that aren't popular. As far as being "held accountable" the worst that is going to happen is I'll be tossed from the site. To be brutally honest though I haven't even so much as received an official warning through private mail, never mind been suspended. I even have a "badge" for putting up the majority of my posts (including political ones) without invoking the mods wrath, which is more than a lot of people can say.
It's not like I'm sitting here advocating people to nail others to flaming crosses or anything. Heck, the worst stuff I've said is anti-gay men, and even that has been fairly mild in the overall scheme of things (it just seems like more than it is when dealing with a forum in which it's an unpopular viewpoint.. not that it comes up constantly).
Here all I did was basically say in response to criticisms of "American stupidity, ignorance and arrogance" that Brits are the same way a lot of the time... and of course with the "big issues" there are like a million contridictory opinions which people disagree on.
Also for the record, in the example you give you'd be dealing with issues like tresspassing, littering, and other things. Here I am quite aware that I don't have my full "free speech" rights, but on the other hand I operate within the scope of the forum guidelines which is why I've stayed out of trouble.
As far as veiled threats... let me be honest... Internet tough guys are a dime a dozen. Sure, my docs aren't all that difficult to get (no ones really are if you know how), but then again I'm not making any extra special effort to hide just because people disagree with me. I'm not some troll running through trying to get a reaction. As much as SOME people hate my politics I am primarly here to talk about games and fandom. When politics get involved I simply provide an alternative viewpoint from what passes from the site's mainstream.
Honestly though, I can't see anyone, even a radical liberal, tracking me down over something I said in an internet forum. Especially given that when you get down to it anyone that radical is likely to find people they are going to hate a lot more than me. Even if they did, I'm not some super tough guy, but I'm hardly scared. As big a mess as I am nowadays, if I was afraid someone was going to clean my clock that easily I wouldn't have been able to work casino security for 10 years... despite it being a giant dog and pony show for the most part. Plus I'll be brutally honest in saying that there are people out there who have much better reasons to want to kick my butt, and would be more likely to try. If I'm not worried about that, I'm hardly going to live in fear that someone who doesn't like what I have to say on the internet is going to track me down.
Frankly, I'm in more danger that some random dude from Anonymous or 4-Chan or something would want to mess with me or something more or less by dumb uck, than someone going "oh noes! Therumancer got snarky back with British people".