"Wait, how is that offensive?!"

[Helmholtz Watson]

I'm Dutch and met some crazy-religious people that find the Dutch word for "thunder" amazingly offensive.

It doesn't make sense to me, I never sought harm behind the word, but apparently they don't want you to mention smiting-tools of their God.

what is the ducth word for thunder?

 

[Highlandheadbanger]

I'm Dutch and met some crazy-religious people that find the Dutch word for "thunder" amazingly offensive.

It doesn't make sense to me, I never sought harm behind the word, but apparently they don't want you to mention smiting-tools of their God.

Yes, because atheist are often struck by bliksem.

OT: Meh, never really been in such a situation.

I can't say with total certainty from searching the internet, but from what I can tell, the Dutch word "Donder" is not offensive. However, the phrase "Donder Op" is equivocal to English's "Bugger Off" or its other variations "Piss Off" or "Fuck Off". If this is the case--correct me if I'm wrong--then "Donder Op" is an offensive statement hurled at an enemy or hated inferior. I know I got hit for using the words piss (slang for urine) or bugger (slang for sodomy) when I was a kid, maybe its the same thing in the Netherlands, I cannot say.

 

[Petromir]

Well... to me is when i'm telling a joke or talking to someone and say black people. But my friends sush me up like i'm saying a racist word or something. Never understood why. Some people are black other white, i think it's a normal thing.

When i was a kid i kinda thinked people would be offended when i said the term "Black" to refer to a person, but a friend of mine, wich was black, saied he would feel more offended if i didn't use the word, considering there would be a racist connection by not using a common and normal word.

So yeah...

Question , when you are talking about something do you ever say "white people" ? Or when talking about another thing and say yellow or orange or brown people( for asian , indonesian and indian )?

I do find that Offensive a bit , like i am being judged for being black , but it's not direct rascime perse , unless you follow up woth something racist.

Also rememer something , just because something doesn't offend on person ( usually a friend ) it doesn't mean it doesn't offend others . Something people tend to forget . Oh and having a close relationship to a person that is black ( or any race imo) doesn't make saying racist things less racist .

Example: a month ago me and a couple of friends were at a bar . We were four , me( black), my gf ( white ), a close friend of mine ( asian ) and another close friend ( white ). At the end of the night, my two friends were leaving , i said something to my asian friend like , you better not drive , since you know asians tend to be bad drivers sober ( as a joke) , then she turn , and says later , shit! *stutters* face. I replied hey thats racist ( now this didn't really offend me since she didn't mean it in a racist way ). The my other friend which was white says , bye ****** . At this point i told my asian friend to get he out of here , and the my white friend was like , remember my dad is black ( her dad was black , and she was white as snow ,but it still really offended me ). And i have yet to speak to her again to this day , and don't intend to.

TLR having a black friend , lover or parent doesn't excuse saying racist things

A single word destroy a friendship? I must say its sounds like you're ex friend is lucky to be rid of you.

Said without mallice, in what in your delivery makes it sound no less of a joke than your asian driver joke.

You are of course still prefectly allowed to be offended by it, but never speaking to them again?

Did said friend show any actual signs of racisim beyond this one statement? Especially regardless of her skin colour is mixed race.

 

[Zoe Castillo]

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[kayisking]

I'm Dutch and met some crazy-religious people that find the Dutch word for "thunder" amazingly offensive.

It doesn't make sense to me, I never sought harm behind the word, but apparently they don't want you to mention smiting-tools of their God.

Yes, because atheist are often struck by bliksem.

OT: Meh, never really been in such a situation.

I can't say with total certainty from searching the internet, but from what I can tell, the Dutch word "Donder" is not offensive. However, the phrase "Donder Op" is equivocal to English's "Bugger Off" or its other variations "Piss Off" or "Fuck Off". If this is the case--correct me if I'm wrong--then "Donder Op" is an offensive statement hurled at an enemy or hated inferior. I know I got hit for using the words piss (slang for urine) or bugger (slang for sodomy) when I was a kid, maybe its the same thing in the Netherlands, I cannot say.

Correct indeed, but unlike bugger off, donder isn't a slang. It's a normal word with a very normal meaning, getting offended by it would be like getting offended by the word walk, because telling people to go take a walk is considered rude.

 

[Whateveralot]

I can't say with total certainty from searching the internet, but from what I can tell, the Dutch word "Donder" is not offensive. However, the phrase "Donder Op" is equivocal to English's "Bugger Off" or its other variations "Piss Off" or "Fuck Off". If this is the case--correct me if I'm wrong--then "Donder Op" is an offensive statement hurled at an enemy or hated inferior. I know I got hit for using the words piss (slang for urine) or bugger (slang for sodomy) when I was a kid, maybe its the same thing in the Netherlands, I cannot say.

Nah it's not. It's the actual word itself, without even an insulting meaning to it. In common-wording, people can say: "ik donderde van de trap", which means: "I fell off the staircase" (fell being the translation of donderde, which is the "evil" word). I said that word to a colleague the other day in a non-offensive way but she didn't appreciate it and ignore me for the day.

I'm Dutch and met some crazy-religious people that find the Dutch word for "thunder" amazingly offensive.

It doesn't make sense to me, I never sought harm behind the word, but apparently they don't want you to mention smiting-tools of their God.

what is the ducth word for thunder?

As stated above, it's "donder".

 

[Something Amyss]

I got called out for saying "Jew" once. If you're Jewish and you practice Judaism, then you are a Jew. Just because you conjugate a word a certain way does not make it offensive, especially if you're using it correctly. Also, what should we say if not "black?"

The use of "Jew" as a slur isn't even really that outdated. It's not "just because you conjugate a word."

Oddly enough, I'm yet to ever encounter a situation where I was forbidden from use of the word "black" to describe a black person.

If the situation ever arises, I will probably have to come up with something, though. Perhaps I should start thinking now....

 

[Zio_IV]

I never get why people are offended by anything. Neither why they make such a big deal out of being offended.

You're all just odd.

If you're offended, so what? Who gives a flying fornication? I certainly don't. Go whine to the PCpolice. Until the day comes when they can censor my words as they leave my big-ass flappy mouth, I'm going to keep saying things that offend people and there aint a damn thing you can do about it... well in real life there isn't. Can't ban me from that.

But seriously, I never get offended. I either ignore the person spewing hateful bile and get on with my day. Or I laugh at the offensive joke and get on with my day.

Because in the words of Frankie Boyle.

"It's alright madam, it's just a joke."

Pretty much this.

Most people don't seem to realize that just as we are all capable of "scathing remarks", we're equally capable of just ignoring them. Hell, people have talked to me in the past many, MANY times in a manner that some would consider offensive. I make the choice to not care about what they say. It's as simple as that. Those who get offended are making that choice for themselves; no one is forcing them to feel that way or act upon those feelings. This is one of those subjects where I really don't understand why it's a problem in today's society.

People who feel offended by certain subjects need to learn how to roll through and just continue with their lives, instead of trying to lash back in any manner (big or small), and in doing so, come off as insecure about the matter, even if they're not. I'm willing to bet that their lives will significantly improve after doing just that. I know mine has.

 

[baker80]

Why do people get so angry when I am a flaming asshole to them!? It's just not fair, I should be able to be as rude and disrespectful as I want without people being offended! q_q

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

I got called out for saying "Jew" once. If you're Jewish and you practice Judaism, then you are a Jew. Just because you conjugate a word a certain way does not make it offensive, especially if you're using it correctly. Also, what should we say if not "black?"[/quote

I'm a JEW and you your identifying someone then I think your in the right to call them that. I hate it when people get offended on my behalf.

 

[EvilPicnic]

There are certain things that are just flat out rude. Sadly, some of us didn't get the memo and don't quite get the "why" of it.

Because offensiveness isn't a quality- it's a choice by the offended party to take offense. Anything can be offensive. I could take offense at this thread, and say, 'This thread has offended me!' But it doesn't mean that the thread is in any way innately offensive.

It's like beauty: offensiveness is in the eye of the beholder. And that's why some people take offense at really really stupid things: because we are all different and some people are just plain stupid.

That's not a license for rudeness: it should be pretty easy for us well-adjusted people to judge whether a given statement will cause offense or not, and there is no reason to cause it needlessly. But when a person is not socially adjusted they might cause offense or take offense in situations that would strike the rest of us strange.

 

[Phasmal]

I dont get when people say `If I say [offensive thing] to my friend who is [certain group] they dont get offended so ALL people of that group shouldn't get offended`.

Thats just stupid. I can't count how many times I've heard `but my friend X is a woman and she doesn't find this offensive`.
As if I'm supposed to go `Oh, I must have missed the memo at the last global woman meeting`.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

ehh alot of times skin color =/= race, i know 5-6 people off the top of my head that are more white than i am as of skin tone, but are at least 50% black (one half of the family is entirely black on the dads side.) and they have used "nigga" casually alot, in which there are HUNDREDS of times where someone gets super pissed off about it, because they aren't "black", even though as a race, they are just as supposed black as any other african american really.


i really hate Political correctness and people who get overly offended by words...

it's a word, words have been made up since the beginning of time, context is what matters!

oh and too lazy to go quote it, but i have tons of my friends call me "white boi" or "cracker", and i couldn't give a rats ass.

hell first time i got called a "honky" i ended up laughing my ass off at how absurd the person was for trying to offend me with it.

 

[krazykidd]

Well... to me is when i'm telling a joke or talking to someone and say black people. But my friends sush me up like i'm saying a racist word or something. Never understood why. Some people are black other white, i think it's a normal thing.

When i was a kid i kinda thinked people would be offended when i said the term "Black" to refer to a person, but a friend of mine, wich was black, saied he would feel more offended if i didn't use the word, considering there would be a racist connection by not using a common and normal word.

So yeah...

Question , when you are talking about something do you ever say "white people" ? Or when talking about another thing and say yellow or orange or brown people( for asian , indonesian and indian )?

I do find that Offensive a bit , like i am being judged for being black , but it's not direct rascime perse , unless you follow up woth something racist.

Also rememer something , just because something doesn't offend on person ( usually a friend ) it doesn't mean it doesn't offend others . Something people tend to forget . Oh and having a close relationship to a person that is black ( or any race imo) doesn't make saying racist things less racist .

Example: a month ago me and a couple of friends were at a bar . We were four , me( black), my gf ( white ), a close friend of mine ( asian ) and another close friend ( white ). At the end of the night, my two friends were leaving , i said something to my asian friend like , you better not drive , since you know asians tend to be bad drivers sober ( as a joke) , then she turn , and says later , shit! *stutters* face. I replied hey thats racist ( now this didn't really offend me since she didn't mean it in a racist way ). The my other friend which was white says , bye ****** . At this point i told my asian friend to get he out of here , and the my white friend was like , remember my dad is black ( her dad was black , and she was white as snow ,but it still really offended me ). And i have yet to speak to her again to this day , and don't intend to.

TLR having a black friend , lover or parent doesn't excuse saying racist things

Well I'm Irish, if someone was talking about Irish people and said something like "Remember Liam? The Irish guy from the other night it seems the same as "Remember Dave? The black guy from the other night." It's a pretty distinctive trait.

I do have one question. If the white friend (I'm presuming she was as close as the Asian friend here) had said something like "And how are you getting home? There's no cars parked out front for you to steal." Would you have been cool with that?

To answer your question , i woudn't have been offended , because she would be making a joke based on an outrageous stereotype. I can't deny that such a stereotype exists. ( i personally find stereotypes funny , becauese most of them are ridiculous, but you also have to take into account the atmosphere and the way such things are said)

 

[estoria-etnia]

I'm not sure why people find curse words offensive, because haven't we been taught as kids that "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me."?

Verbal abuse can be just as destructive and hurtful as physical abuse and it leaves a lot of problems that a person has to deal with for the rest of their life. Emotional/verbal abuse can permanently damage a person's self-worth and how they view themselves and it often contributes to suicide and depression. Unlike physical abuse or injuries, emotional and verbal abuse does not leave any physical scars which makes it harder to deal with or realize that it's going on.

Basically, that phrase is a load of bullshit.

What I find offensive is people who insist that if someone is depressed that they should just "shut up and cheer up" or "stop complaining and smile you stupid emo!" Or, you know, people talking about mental illness as though it's something you can choose to have and that it's all in a person's head, that they're making it up to get attention, etc.

 

[Prof. Monkeypox]

I once told someone that I didn't believe in predetermination or "natural talent." I said that, instead, I believed that with enough practice, passion, and drive, anyone can do anything they want, regardless of what they may be "naturally talented in."

He told me that if I were to keep making snide comments like that I should just fuck off.


-wut?

 

[Kopikatsu]

I was giving a black guy a ride (at night) a few weeks ago and out of nowhere he said "Why do white people always drive with their headlights off at night?"

I just laughed and said he was crazy. (For the record, my headlights were on).

Anywho! I'm not really sure why people get offended at...well...anything. Life is too short to get stressed out over something that, in the long run, doesn't even have an ounce of importance.

Edit: Oh. Well, one instance of someone getting offended at something that I can understand is; I used to have a friend with dark skin, and everyone assumed she was Black (And would call her 'African American'). She was actually just a bit-darker-than-normal Hawaiian. Maaaaaan that pissed her off. I thought it was kind of funny, though.

 

[Master_of_Oldskool]

The line in Slaughterhouse Five about machine gun fire sounding like "God almighty unzipping his fly". It's loud and it's sort of a zipper-y noise, I don't understand where the offensive bit is. Is it maybe the implication that God has a fly to unzip, and so logically must have a penis to pull out of it? Because I don't really see how that's offensive, either.

What I find offensive is people who insist that if someone is depressed that they should just "shut up and cheer up" or "stop complaining and smile you stupid emo!" Or, you know, people talking about mental illness as though it's something you can choose to have and that it's all in a person's head, that they're making it up to get attention, etc.

Thank you. Somebody actually walked up and asked me if I'd ever "just tried being happy" the other day. Long story short, I've been suspended from school.

 

[w1ndscar]

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I too dont care if one decides to be gay rather than straight. What does get annoying, is that people claim being gay is derived from your DNA. Sexual preference, or what turns one on is not determined by their genes, but rather their Mentality and personal preferences.

OT: I don't understand why African Americans feel that they must absolutely have an entire month devoted to their history. We go over it during the proper section of all of our history courses.

 

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

Most of Frankie Boyle's "jokes". Notice that the audience mostly react with "ooooh" instead of a laugh. I personally don't find them offensive, I just think it's odd that people find shock "humor" to be funny.

He used to be funny, but eventually he just started being outright offensive for the sake of it. He wouldn't make an effort into creating a hilarious joke people can't help but laugh at and just made offensive comments.

OT: Horrific jokes about anything and everyone. Here's a few that are just awful:

Spoiler

Every girl I've ever dated has asked me what superpower I would choose. They always expect me to say something like invisibility or super speed, but they won't really help me escape this mess. I always choose infertility.

When my adopted son misbehaves I never feel disappointment, only buyers remorse.

My son asked me if the divorce was his fault, I told him that it wasn't his fault. If anything it was my fault, I used an expired condom.

Points to whoever tells me where I derive these from without doing a Google search.