That's just the Necrons. They got redesigned from Terminators to Space-Robot-Mumies.inu-kun said:Tomb kings in space?Elijin said:So, since AoS got some 40K orphans, does new 40K get some displaced Fantasy Battles race?
That's just the Necrons. They got redesigned from Terminators to Space-Robot-Mumies.inu-kun said:Tomb kings in space?Elijin said:So, since AoS got some 40K orphans, does new 40K get some displaced Fantasy Battles race?
Not if they distribute all the model rules as PDFs like they do for AoS.xaszatm said:Even worse, each weapon know effects each model differently so now I got to have every $50 codex just so I understand how my weapon affects the brand new model I'm facing.
They brought out army books later on for AoS, though.09philj said:Not if they distribute all the model rules as PDFs like they do for AoS.xaszatm said:Even worse, each weapon know effects each model differently so now I got to have every $50 codex just so I understand how my weapon affects the brand new model I'm facing.
https://warhammer40000.gw-hub.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/04/New-Edition-of-40K-FAQ.pdf09philj said:Not if they distribute all the model rules as PDFs like they do for AoS.xaszatm said:Even worse, each weapon know effects each model differently so now I got to have every $50 codex just so I understand how my weapon affects the brand new model I'm facing.
Games Workshop said:Can I still use all my models?
Yes. Every Warhammer 40,000 miniature we sell today will be usable in the new edition of
Warhammer 40,000. What?s more, they?ll be supported with new rules, which will be available
from the get go in handy, low-cost books.
Both of these suggest that the rules won't be free... and considering Age of Sigmar was "intended to be played with scenarios in mind, not pitted battles", and then conveniently placed all the scenarios in books that you had to shill out $40 for...Games Workshop said:How can I get the rules?
We?re going to make it easier than ever to get your hands on the rules and start playing.
The core rules for the game will be free, and you?ll have several options on how you get your
hands on the full rulebook. Watch this space for more.
The absolute basic rules are free. Point values, unit upgrades, formations, detachments and two of the game modes will be paid for.Mangod said:https://warhammer40000.gw-hub.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/04/New-Edition-of-40K-FAQ.pdf09philj said:Not if they distribute all the model rules as PDFs like they do for AoS.xaszatm said:Even worse, each weapon know effects each model differently so now I got to have every $50 codex just so I understand how my weapon affects the brand new model I'm facing.
Games Workshop said:Can I still use all my models?
Yes. Every Warhammer 40,000 miniature we sell today will be usable in the new edition of
Warhammer 40,000. What?s more, they?ll be supported with new rules, which will be available
from the get go in handy, low-cost books.Both of these suggest that the rules won't be free... and considering Age of Sigmar was "intended to be played with scenarios in mind, not pitted battles", and then conveniently placed all the scenarios in books that you had to shill out $40 for...Games Workshop said:How can I get the rules?
We?re going to make it easier than ever to get your hands on the rules and start playing.
The core rules for the game will be free, and you?ll have several options on how you get your
hands on the full rulebook. Watch this space for more.
The only extra stuff they contain is fluff and scenario rules, and if there's one thing the community can easily make themselves it's scenarios.Thaluikhain said:They brought out army books later on for AoS, though.09philj said:Not if they distribute all the model rules as PDFs like they do for AoS.xaszatm said:Even worse, each weapon know effects each model differently so now I got to have every $50 codex just so I understand how my weapon affects the brand new model I'm facing.
You underestimate the cost of 50K considerably.jademunky said:But seriously, while I have only ever played Warhammer in video game format, I get the gist of what is going on: New edition and new stuff and if all that was happening was that players had to shell out $25 for a new rulebook, I would have no problem.
Sweet crack. Seriously, that is messed up but unless you are in a genuine tournament, does it really matter? I mean, I know a few people that still play first edition dnd.fix-the-spade said:You underestimate the cost of 50K considerably.jademunky said:But seriously, while I have only ever played Warhammer in video game format, I get the gist of what is going on: New edition and new stuff and if all that was happening was that players had to shell out $25 for a new rulebook, I would have no problem.
The base rule book in the region of $60, to actually play the game you will also need the Codex for whichever faction you are playing as, which is $30 to $40 on top of that. Some factions (Chaos Space Marines for example) even have supplemental codexes that cost another $25 on top of that.
So for two players playing different factions you shoot past $100 just for the rule books. Truly, it's cheaper to get into crack.
I think whats worse for me is stumbling across the current miniature prices - local toyshop had some and I was more than a little gobsmacked -fix-the-spade said:You underestimate the cost of 50K considerably.jademunky said:But seriously, while I have only ever played Warhammer in video game format, I get the gist of what is going on: New edition and new stuff and if all that was happening was that players had to shell out $25 for a new rulebook, I would have no problem.
The base rule book in the region of $60, to actually play the game you will also need the Codex for whichever faction you are playing as, which is $30 to $40 on top of that. Some factions (Chaos Space Marines for example) even have supplemental codexes that cost another $25 on top of that.
So for two players playing different factions you shoot past $100 just for the rule books. Truly, it's cheaper to get into crack.
Roboute Guilliman is now a free, and mandatory inclusion in any Space Marine Army. In addition he has been re-tooled to have a 1+ invulnerable saving throw that may be re-rolled up to 5 times per wound.Silentpony said:Oh what could possibly go wrong?!
1) You're forgetting the eldar gods and c'tan.lionsprey said:it could be good... oh who am i fooling?`its going to be shit. i got lore inconsistency's just reading the introduction to the emperor
"He is the Master of Mankind by the will of the gods" he is master by his own will. the only gods that actually do stuff in 40k are the chaos gods and they have done nothing but try to stop him.
Technically no, I still occasionally play Rogue Trader (1st ed), but Games Workshop provide a very convenient place to play. Turn up with your army and you can probably get a game, assuming you're playing the current edition. Don't expect to turn up with all your 4th ed or whatever stuff and expect them to let you play with those rules, even if someone else is up for it.jademunky said:Sweet crack. Seriously, that is messed up but unless you are in a genuine tournament, does it really matter? I mean, I know a few people that still play first edition dnd.
i didn't really count the C'tan because of the materium thing and that they have been shattered into a fuck ton of pieces. or the Eldar gods for the same reasons. also Gork and Mork.Hawki said:Okay, looking at this entirely from a lore perspective1) You're forgetting the eldar gods and c'tan.lionsprey said:it could be good... oh who am i fooling?`its going to be shit. i got lore inconsistency's just reading the introduction to the emperor
"He is the Master of Mankind by the will of the gods" he is master by his own will. the only gods that actually do stuff in 40k are the chaos gods and they have done nothing but try to stop him.
2) That text has been over and over long before this edition. It's not literal fact, since we know how the Emperor was born (shamans, Antolia, yadda yadda yadda), but it does match Imperial dogma.
On another note, can I escape being called a heretic and say, judging entirely by the lore, I'm fine with this? Guilliman's return was hinted at ages ago (left in stasis on Macragge, that's a dangling plot thread if I ever saw one), they're not retconning the Cadia campaign like they did with Storm of Chaos, and Ynnead actually forming is welcome for me. It seems that this is actually moving the setting forward, rather than outright dismanting it like they did for Warhammer Fantasy. Who knows, they might actually enter the 42nd millennium. To quote a setting that took inspiration from 40K, "hell, it's about time!"
Some of the stand alone games are kinda fun. Kill Team can be a blast, and the newest one Shadow War looks...well looks like Killteam all over again.Smithnikov said:And this is why I stick to just the stand alone games...