damn link is down, anyone got a screen cap, the only thing I've heard is that Internet aristocrat called randy out for a comment about something around the lines of I don't care if my customer are duped by fake reviews and keeps talking about how he's on a plane and can't check the vocaroo IA made http://vocaroo.com/i/s0orzYZ9cQGaUltratwinkie said:
Do you even know what the word misogynist means? The dictionary says it means "hatred of all women".Revnak said:
The irony there is that the people who were accusing everyone under the sun of faking their own Doxxxx are now onboard whole-heartedly, and that seems to not be at all problematic for most people.Sutter Cane said:
Well, there's more than one dictionary, and dictionaries aren't the end all of word usage. Typing "misogyny" into Google gets you several variant definitions within the first few hits. Same for misogynist, though misogynist returns misogyny hits anyway.Ilovechocolatemilk said:
I guess the question is: do you know what the word misogynist means? Because it doesn't look like you do, or you're quote mining a very specific definition in an attempt to knock down another, viable meaning.
Honestly, I don't think we know. It is the general assumption, since it was that thread that was being targeted specifically, and it correlates to various other hacks and personal threatening calls of people involved in gamergate itself, but nothing proving it that I am aware of and no one taking credit that I know, unless I missed something.Albetta said:
I gave you a viable meaning. By the latin root, miso- is a prefix meaning hate. -gyny is a suffix meaning female. Put together, it means hatred of females, and by the dictionary definition, it means "a hatred of women".Zachary Amaranth said:
Or a twat being a twat and trying to get people riled up. If that hypothetical situation turned out to be true, he/she is getting their wish.Weaver said:
By that loose definition, can you tell me the difference, objectively, to use of "misogynist" between insulting a woman, sending a threat to a woman, criticizing a woman and hating a woman. And do it in such a way that those differences are both noted and that the counterpart to the word, misandry, applies the same to such actions towards men?Zachary Amaranth said:
The quickest answer there? Because journalists refused to let it be talked about fairly, people got determined to talk about it, and then started to see the ones trying to shut them up as unfit the positions they had and not up to snuff professionally or ethically.Grayjack said:
The key word there being "a," which was my point. It's a definition, not the definition. You're trying to hold someone to a specific meaning they almost certainly do not mean. It's a strawman argument wrapped in word games.Ilovechocolatemilk said:
You do understand how language works, right? A word's roots are a useful hint as to the meaning but are not a legally binding contract.
Malformed question, which I've already explained. Are you doing this intentionally?
Point to me a definition of racist or racism that has a different meaning to the selective way you've framed it and you might have an analogue. But as it stands, that's not how it works.
You realise we have multiple degrees of assault, murder, and other things, right? You may not like the nature of language, but that doesn't make it incorrect. Whether I can "objectively" point out the difference is irrelevant to the term and whether it encompasses the lot of those acts. But then, asking someone to objectively argue language is a farce in the first place.runic knight said:
Except even the Escapist hasn't been immune to the #hashtagactivismoutrage, despite being the place that's kept the discussion open without banning or deleting everything under the sun, so that's not it.runic knight said:
You keep saying my definition is inadequate, even though it's the definition by the latin root and by multiple dictionaries.Zachary Amaranth said:
We still don't know. It most certainly is not helped by the fact that every pro-GG is proudly screaming it like it is true (it's not, because WE DON'T KNOW AND REPORTING RUMORS WITHOUT FACT IS THE VERY DEFINITION OF BAD JOURNALISM). My best advice is to ignore every source for the next two days (especially if it doesn't come from the Escapist Staff itself) until heads calm down.Albetta said:
Please stop making things up. I did not say inadequate or indicate that it was. I did, however, indicate that it was unlikely this was the definition being used. While I'm acknowledging multiple meanings of the word, you're insisting that they be held accountable to this specific definition, and now you're twisting my words. That's dishonest, and I've just explained why.Ilovechocolatemilk said:
I was summarizing your point, you said explicitly, " It's a definition, not the definition."Zachary Amaranth said:
