Actually, I would say this post should be reasonably ignored.Captain Chemosh said:* Applauds* I have to say... that's the best bit of literature I've ever read sir. Every single american should read this, information like this should be brought up in schools, this is truly impressive. (No, I'm not being sarcastic, I'm just in awe)Thyunda said:To us in England, a lot of us are personally jaded towards the US, since they act like the spokesperson for the English-speaking West, and we do not like that. But for some reason, our leaders insist on sucking up to the States, even if we're well aware it makes no sense. Now we end up with Muslim extremists on our own soil, lumping us in with the Americans, despite the fact we're only in their countries because our leaders weren't man enough to tell the US to stop being such dicks.
I mean, really. Shooting Pakistani soldiers? Encroaching on Pakistani sovereign soil, and the moment they tell you to fuck off, you suddenly find ibn-Laden there? America, you ARE disgusting. You've imposed a sanction on buying Iranian oil, because Iran are supposedly developing nukes.
Well. You have nukes. I wouldn't be surprised if Iran is worried about a joint Israeli/American invasion. Wouldn't put it past you.
Oh, and the Iranian caught with radioactive contraband and Moscow International - what exactly are you trying to pull here? I'm fairly sure that if Iran wanted nuclear supplies, they wouldn't need to send a civilian via commercial airline.
And of course there's the Lockerbie bomber incident in the past. Scotland had no evidence with which to try the suspect, but did the Americans care? Nope. They wanted to put somebody away so they could swing their dicks at the public and say "Look what good anti-terrorists we are."
I feel so bad for the American people. In the Middle East, there are people that would happily burn you and rape your family due to the actions of your government. I know a lot of you are stupid, a lot of you are ignorant, and a few are completely insane, but you're really not bad people. 99% of the Americans on this site certainly don't fit into the above groups, but thanks to your leaders, you're the Infidel now.
Especially since he's British.
Why you might ask? Because a lot of the problems in the Middle East are actually results of the British fucking around in it. In fact, they renege on a deal set up by T.E. Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia. all of this back in the aftermath of WWI) that would have granted Arab independence and continued to dick around in the area until they were forced out.
The Iran situation up to this point is all a result of the British government asking the Americans for a small favor to dispose of a democratically elected leader who wanted to seize their land back from British companies, who were drilling up oil. As a result, they got a dictator who was very much for the West but also very much a horrid person. This lead to the Iranian revolution which, more or less, put Iran in the spot it is now. Naturally, this is only America's fault.
Many of the things people whine about concerning the Americans can easily be pointed right back at the British, who were largely doing the same things until fairly recently.
Then again, this is all a matter of what's being told in the media. Believe it or not, but news sources based in Europe are actually quite censored or more reserved. It doesn't help that there are different mentalities there too.
Case in point, what people consider police brutality. A cop pepper sprays a bunch of people and he's demonized and the entire incident will be all over the news of how the entire legal system is fucked up and that American cops are brutal and sadistic monsters. Meanwhile, in Germany, you mouth off to a cop and you will get your ass beat and then probably beat again once your in custody. Their media will simply report it as some rabble-rouser getting put in his place by proper authorities, if it gets reported at all.
People here cry about the whole SOPA thing, but the problem is that most of your countries already censor things like you wouldn't believe. Like Aussieland and video games. Or Britain and its love of superinjunctions. The only reason why SOPA is such a big deal is because America is doing it. Never mind that France tried to pass the same thing, which failed.
Like it was stated, we pretty much air our dirty laundry on a flag pole. We also like to play up stereotypes because they're easy to remember. That's the only reason why you remember all Southerners being backwards hicks with thick accents and a utter love for guns and incest. Or that every New Yorker is an asshole. Or even that every American is a gun loving, flag waving, ultra patriot with a hard on for the red, white and blue 24/7. When in reality, they're not. They're just people.
And honestly, people like to hate America for the same reason people like to hate Justin Beiber. It's easy and popular. No one is going to look at things in context, or even look thoroughly into something. They see their friends hating on it and just decide to join in.
It didn't help the Nazis that their leader was also tactically stupid and facing an enemy who simply had far more people to throw at the enemy. After all, quantity has a quality all of its own. All he really had to do was learn when to cut his losses or go for objectives that are strategically important first.DarkArk said:Way to dodge the question. How would Japan have fallen if there was no US military fighting them? The Pacific Campaign was the largest naval campaign in the history of the world, pray tell how one of those factions would have been defeated without its primary adversary. How are Australia, the Chinese, and the Brits going to sink 9 fleet carriers? The fact that Japan overextended itself means nothing if there's no one with the ability to make them pay for that mistake. And if Japan isn't fighting the US they'll be less overextended then they were in real history.thaluikhain said:I'd disagree there. Japan had realised that there was no point trying to invade Australia, their plan was merely to blockade it. The Japanese forces had already over-reached themselves trying to hold bits of China the Guomintang didn't care about, they weren't eager to do the same somewhere else as well.DarkArk said:Yes, and the IJN would have been destroyed by whose navy? Not America's in this scenario, and certainly not Britain's given what happened in real life. If there is no fleet to defend at Coral Sea Australia is up the creek.
I'd also disagree with that. Yes, it would have been a long(er) and bloody(er) business, but they would eventually overcome the Germans.DarkArk said:Without American help the Soviets would have never had a chance to destroy Germany. Sure they might not have lost per se but they never would have had the ability to march across Europe as fast as they did. The Soviets simply didn't have enough trucks and trains on their own, and they never would have gained the strategic initiative.
The fact that you say the Soviets would have overcome the Germans does not make it so. The Soviets were hurting badly and the West gave them the tools they needed to overcome the Germans. They received 4,000 locomotive engines from the West, crucial for offensive advances and resupplying armies. Half of all Soviet trucks were imported, as was 12% of their air force. The Soviets had very little skill in producing complex electronics like radios, which they imported in vast numbers. You see, the Germans don't have to win, they just have to not lose. Which a Red Army without crucial logistical support is not going to be able to do like at Kursk.
Like oil fields and enemy military installations.