What Ethnic Group Will Replace Nazis?

[Flunk]

"those intentionally diverse groups that struck me as hollow, hypocritical and smug."

Maybe, or maybe you're overthinking it. I never thought anything was strange about the cast of Captain Planet (or any other show like that) because the distribution of races was pretty much the same as it was in my classroom (in Toronto, Canada). Some places are just more multicultural than others.

 

[tmande2nd]

Medieval 2 Total War already let me beat on the Mongols and Vikings though to some extent.

Maybe let us take an M1A2 Abrams back in time and beat the Mongols back or something.
Nothing quite says OWNED like a 120mm tank shell!

 

[flames09]

Nazism is not an ethnicity, it is a political ideology. That is my pet hate people calling Germans Nazis.

Replace Nazi with Communist and you would sound like an idiot, so please refrain as it pisses me off to no end.

 

[Darth_Payn]

I haven't read every single post on this topic, but if nobody else said it, I will: The Mongols are a playable civilization in Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings. They even get their own campaign, named after Genghis Khan. But yeah, I can see Mongols as an enemy in upcoming video games. I read they did a fuck-ton of shit that would count as war crimes today, even setting the stage for how jacked up the Middle East is today. The stuff about trade and learning and any other positive effects previous posts brought up are more like unintended side-effects. Nobody in those days were all smiles and sunshine, but the Mongols were straight-up psychos!

 

[rapidoud]

No one said the Americans...

Then again everyone is an 18-24 Caucasian in America so we can't have them harming our own audience can we!

Just like the Americans that complain about a gay superhero *facepalm*.

(I am Australian)

Not to forget all the crap the USA has pulled in the past 60 years; assasinations, coups to overthrow governments, the vietnam war, killing and torturing hostages, the invention of some truly terrifying torture techniques and perfecting them etc.

 

[Landrius]

No one said the Americans...

Someone did, actually:

America. Seriously, we're the only country in the world powerful enough to actually potentially conquer it alone. (Sorry Homefront but no way in heck is North Korea ever going to conquer the free world). All the other countries would have to band together to fight us off, making for a good underdog protagonist.

And it's not even that unrealistic. With all the unnecessary wars we've been starting over in the middle east, I wouldn't have a hard believing that we might start another world war in a few decades if the right wing extremists managed to take complete control of the government.

But that aside, as an American I would find it interesting for the U.S. to be the primary bad guy in a game.

Problem is I doubt it's going to happen in the mainstream. At least not for a long while. A very large part of the gaming industry is based in the U.S. as far as I am aware. It would be very hard to sell a game depicting the U.S. as a plainly evil force TO the majority of the U.S., unfortunately.

Of course, the BEST kind of game in my opinion is one where no one is, apparently, "in the right" or "evil" because everyone thinks they're in the right because everyone has different standards of 'right' and the protagonist understands this but doesn't give a shit because morality isn't something that is nailed down for all the world to see and you just need to do your best even though you could end up being dead wrong.

I like gray areas more than black and white, although sometimes a well-executed good vs evil thing is cathartic. It's just not as realistic, usually.

 

[Evil Smurf]

Bronies? Kidding! not really

 

[Evil Smurf]

Well this is bollocks; I can't delete my own posts in attempts to escape moderator wrath.

You can edit your post to make it suitable.

 

[righthead]

In all honesty, I have to go with American PMCs. Clearly the money is being pumped into them faster than they can spend it. So why not use the excess to create a shell company to try to take over the world, then another company to sell the weapons to fight them, and pump the money back through and use the profits to retire to Some private island in the south Pacific.

That's what I'd do if I had no ethics guiding my behavior besides the overwhelming desire to take the money of everyone everywhere.

 

[realslimshadowen]

WoW knows that villains are an equal-opportunity industry. It seems like there's no cult so crazed that members of every race can't come together to sacrifice virgins to their dark god. Hell, the Twilight's Hammer includes Tauren.

 

[Ekonk]

TL;DR Mongols hardly that bad, certainly not on par with the Nazis.

Life was also pretty sweet for Germans in Nazi Germany, that's just how it is when you're at the correct end of the unstoppable war machine.

Yes, but after getting slaughtered and conquered you would be at the correct end. Not the case with the Nazis. I know the slaughtering and conquering isn't exactly a cool thing, but still. They brought lots of great things, but they brought it with fire and sword.

I'm not saying they were awesome, I'm saying they weren't Nazis. For one thing, they didn't try to exterminate anyone.

 

[Ekonk]

The Mongols were actually pretty cool. They conquered bloodily and horribly, but in their empire shit was awesome. There was absolute religious freedom and it was a very secure place. It was said that a man could walk from one end of the empire to the other with a plate of gold on his head and never risk being robbed.

That security was a enormous boost for land-based trading routes, which lead to great economic growth for everyone, etc.

TL;DR Mongols hardly that bad, certainly not on par with the Nazis.

Someone's been watching Crash Course.

You better believe it. I learned more about Mesopotamia, Africa, China, the Mongols, and the Silk Road in those videos than in all my years in the extremely Eurocentric school system.

If you believe what I learned there you'd assume Africa didn't even exist until we started invading.

 

[likalaruku]

My vote goes to the Amish.

Brilliant, they'll never know what hit them. & even if they somehow do, they still won't sue.

 

[fleischwolke]

How about the rascally Spaniards?
- Raided the Pre-Columbian civilizations in South America into obliteration
- Very Catholic, so you can have Inquisition minibosses, complete with black KKK-style cowls
- Don't sound funny when they open their mouths
- Swarthy!

 

[blackrave]

People all your ideas makes no sense
It is genially obvious (at least for me)

Cargo cult
Maybe not for the whole game series, but at least for one game
Introduce the blond african-descendant villain who claims to be John Frum
Then he uses their religious beliefs to lead group of them on the raid on the huge cruise ship- loot, taking hostages or stealing ship- you know, the usual pirate stuff
(something like MS Allure of the Seas, or even bigger)
Main hero could be someone from that ship

Not the worst background for the game story

 

[Stabby Joe]

The only games off the top of my head where you could kill Mongols and/or Vikings was a select few of the Total War games.

 

[Zulnam]

I'm surprised communists didn't make it on the list, tough I guess they are still under the Russian "tag" (even though that is incorrect, since not only Russians were communists and in modern time only China, Cuba and North Korea are still communist states).

But seriously, when will modern war games mature and realize that a war is a bit more complex than simply "good guys and bad guys"?

If we keep the mindset, though, some ideas would be:

Spanish Inquisition (which is not expected by anybody!!)

British Empire when they colonized Africa and Asia (what? It's ok to take other people's lands as long as History doesn't talk smack about you?)

 

[Deviluk]

I find it hard to be against most german soldiers just because they were under the control of Hitler, I mean not all of them were as bad as the fuhrer and his cronies. My girlfriend is german and her great grandfather was a german soldier on the eastern front, in a tank division. Her grandfather was a boy in Berlin when the ruskies turned up, and he helped find them food in return for not being shot at random. Its therefore hard to play WWII shooters pretending nazis are anything but humans as well, in the same position as you.

I would be up for a game set in Nepoloenic times when officers of opposing armies would socialise and play sports together in the days leading up to battles, the demonising of the enemy is actually something you could alter to make the story more interesting. You could use your social connections to arrange surrenders more easily, sparing hundreds of men, and if you get a reputation for being a betraying bastard (like Napoleon) then you have to fight every fight the hard way, killing all your potential allies.

Or just fight the French. C'mon, its not been done!

 

[Deviluk]

British Empire when they colonized Africa and Asia (what? It's ok to take other people's lands as long as History doesn't talk smack about you?)

There is a difference between colonisation and conquest.

 

[PsychedelicDiamond]

As a german i gotta say: Why not modern germany?

It would be about the heroic quest of an american soldier to stop the evil german Bundesrepublik from bringing democracy, green energy and really bad Reality Television to... well, America would be a bit too big for us. Let's say France. We could take France. If we're lucky.Probably not. Okay, so let's say Belgium. So, a game about the evil german Bundesrepublik trying to bring democracy, green energy and really bad TV to Belgium. Sounds like a premise, doesn't it?