While I would cheerfully dispute everything you've just said, I'm not going to. The mere fact that we disagree on this is the problem I have with the system. You can say all that, but if I'm the GM, guess what? You're wrong, and in terms of the gameworld, objectively wrong.theamazingbean said:Your version of lawful is entirely meaningless, since almost any manner of conduct can be codified into a pattern, even if that pattern is only visible in the abstract. Furthermore, it is in almost complete departure from the use of alignment in the game. Alignment's initial implementation was as a balance feature for certain classes (i.e. act evil lose powers), in that regard it is supposed to be narrow and constricting. The textbook challenge for paladins was to send them to lawful evil kingdoms, and let their concern for others and their respect for authority duke it out. While this sort of behavior can hinder some kinds of role-playing, I'm not particularly sad to see alignment systems go, but playing the moral relativity card to reduce all alignments to samey ambitiousness is not the way to go.sleekie said:People like you are why the whole alignment system should be axed. You've just stuck your subjective, and rather narrow, interpretation in there and called it objective. By this logic, any lawful character would uphold institutional authority even if they disagreed with it.theamazingbean said:People like you are the reason Chaotic was largely axed from 4th ed. Chaotic is not I do whatever I want, it is opposing institutional authority at all times, even when I otherwise agree with the authority. You're just neutral.Drakmeire said:Chaotic Neutral, or in other words
WHATEV'A, I DO WHAT I WANT!!
No. All lawful means at its core, is that the character follows some sort of stricture, order, or pattern. An authority is just one possibility. you don't have to follow all of them. Think monks.
That's strange? the quiz told me that lawful good was the best alignment I could be...what is this madness?shane211 said:I'm Neutral Good, which according to the quiz is the best alignment you can be, so I'll take it.