Where do you think WW3 will start?

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dashiz94 said:
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First two were Germany's fault.....I feel good putting my money on them for a third round.
Gavrilo Princip started the first World War.
France and England started the second World War.
Um...I'm pretty sure Germany started the second World War when they INVADED Poland.
After ww1 Germany tried to form a democracy but it failed because of the massive war reparations imposed by France and England who had forced Germany to claim full responsibility for the first war. German money became literally worthless. Their attempted democracy failed due to economic reasons. 50% of German citizens had no job. Then comes along Adolf Hitler promising jobs and income. Of course the German people elected Hitler, what choice did we leave them? Germany was forced into fascism due to England and France acting like little bitches.
 

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Prince Regent said:
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here in Australia we are getting almost overrun by imagrants and they're trying to change our culture so that's not gonna end well. Somethings gonna give eventually and it won't be pretty when it does. I say the all out world war will start somewhere in the middle east.
Australian culture?
Oh your religious values based upon reverence for the land and your a belief in a "Dreamtime" will all change. Most of those imigrants probably don't even know how to play the didgeridoo.

Good luck in stopping those Imigrants that are "trying to change your culture"
An example is some schools aren't allowed to celebrate Christmas because there is one muslim child at the school. Believe it or not we do have a culture here in Australia and it's being taken away from us.
The point that I was making was not that you don't have culture, but when new people come the culture adapts. Culture changes all the time. The native Australians had a rich culture before australia's violent colonisation by the British AKA the start of "your" culture. So don't be so harsh on Imigrants that are taking their culture with them, it's what you did too.

Also it's not like they're invading so saying that "it isn't going to end well" is somewhat unproportionate.
It's not making our culture adapt it's changing it outright to theirs. There are many cases of these sorts of things happening and its getting worse with one group outright saying they want to change Australia into a muslim country. I have no problem with culture adapting but whats currently going on isn't adapting. I'm not saying its an invasion or anything but it is a problem. Not letting children celebrate Christmas in a Cristian country is just wrong to me.
 

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Andothul said:
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The title says it.

Do you think world war 3 will start in Israel? Germany? North Korea? Australia?
It won't happen. The political and cultural landscape of the planet has permanently changed in such a way as to make a third world war impossible. The closest thing we'll ever get is the current "war on terror" which really isn't a world war any more than the "war on drugs" is a world war.
That's a rather naive assessment off the world in my opinion.

While i agree it won't happen now, that doesn't mean its impossible and any student of history knows that is fact it is inevitable.

My professor explained it this way. The world is one big powder keg, all it needs the right fuse and a spark. That fuse will most likely be a fight over the Earths ever lessening resources most likely oil.

Also anyone who knows a bit about history knows that you cannot have 2 world superpowers. The world isnt big enough for 2 and one will fall. China is quickly becoming a superpower

Edit: And to the Original question i'd say the Korean Penisula or the Indian/Pakistan border
If you think oil's going to cause it why are you picking Korea and India/Pakistan as possible starting points? Not much oil in those countries. If you're going to believe in something that is completely wrong at least be consistent.
 

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somewhere in either asia or the mid east...and it will only last a month...depending on if nuclear war wages.
 

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Freakout456 said:
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Freakout456 said:
First two were Germany's fault.....I feel good putting my money on them for a third round.
Apperantly you don't know history...
No I passed Advanced Placement History in High School, while the murder of Franz Ferdinad in Austria was without a doubt the cause of WW1. Germany though gave a blank check to Austria because they wished to build a railroad through Bosnia (maybe Belgium can't remember) to the black sea doing this really made them the mastermind of the war behind the scenes.

Also in the Treaty of Versailles signed after the war Germany did accept full responsibility for the war.[/quot

Ive been in college for 3 years to be a history teacher. I got same thing back in HS... *cracks knuckles* (now I'm going into Navy to be a Corpmen)

1. The problem with WW1 is that Germany HAD NO CHOICE to go to war, who agreed to be allies to Austria who was now at war with Serbis who was allies with Russia, who was allies with France. Germany also was in a pact with Ottoman Empire who threatened English intrest in the middle East and Africa as well as France. England fearing German ownership of mainland Europe threw in with the French. Ironically England, France, even Russian monarchies were all semi- cousins with the Habsburg family in Austria. With all powers having alliances in Europe ALL the countries were responsible for the war.

2. Nationalism had grown in all powerfull European countries, without a serious war in over 30 years it seemed as if the mind set at the time was that its time for a 'Little glorious war". (ironyyy)

3. Germany HAD no choice, being the defeated as accepting the blame and hefty dollar amount that would lead to the German people being so desperate that they were listiening to not just END OF THE WORLD prophecies that were pooping up around Germany at the time, but a young corpral in a small Socialist party with fiery retoric about superiority.

4. The U.S. purposely got the Liuisitania sunk, sacrificing civilians to get involved in the war. The German Gov. sent the U.S. a flyer to be passed out to all coastal cities to warn them of sailing near England at the time. The Gov. sent it to only a small newspaper in some crap hole town in...Idaho? I dont remember. Even then the U.S. didn't enter the war for 3 more years so don't believe that bogus. HS history always glossies over real facts and coveres the crimes of allied nations. Never trust your book.
 

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Astoria said:
Prince Regent said:
Astoria said:
here in Australia we are getting almost overrun by imagrants and they're trying to change our culture so that's not gonna end well. Somethings gonna give eventually and it won't be pretty when it does. I say the all out world war will start somewhere in the middle east.
Australian culture?
Oh your religious values based upon reverence for the land and your a belief in a "Dreamtime" will all change. Most of those imigrants probably don't even know how to play the didgeridoo.

Good luck in stopping those Imigrants that are "trying to change your culture"
An example is some schools aren't allowed to celebrate Christmas because there is one muslim child at the school. Believe it or not we do have a culture here in Australia and it's being taken away from us.
Yeah, I know. The other day I tried to crank up my didgeridoo at home and some pesky European immigrants complained about the noise and called the cops on me.
 

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It's not making our culture adapt it's changing it outright to theirs. There are many cases of these sorts of things happening and its getting worse with one group outright saying they want to change Australia into a muslim country. I have no problem with culture adapting but whats currently going on isn't adapting. I'm not saying its an invasion or anything but it is a problem. Not letting children celebrate Christmas in a Cristian country is just wrong to me.
Again it's not a Christian country it's an Aboriginal one.

Also as this is not in any case WW related. OT: let's hope WWIII never hapens.
 

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The 38th Parallel. Either North Korea or South Korea will eventually invade the other country and spark a war. If South Korea invades North Korea, The United States would throw in with South Korea and fight North Korea and China. If North Korea where to invade South Korea, China may turn on North Korea and invade in an attempt to expand into the Korean Peninsula. You would see a war between the South Koreans (aided by the United States) and the Chinese. The South Koreans and The United States both want reunification.

My answer war partially influenced by my History Professor and partially by the game Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction.
 

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a good while ago i read a paper on wars, and it said that everytime the male population had risen so much above the females that it would be hard for pretty much everyone to even get laid, it would start a war. (exept WW1 and WW2)
I read this a couple of years ago, so don't ask specific details, I don't remember that much of it.

That's why ill say China, with their one child policy and with the looking at females as a burden to the family, and now there are a lot more males than females.
Im sort of looking forward for the fallout.
 

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Well that rebellion in libya could be a warning sign so im goona put my money there
 

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Prince Regent said:
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It's not making our culture adapt it's changing it outright to theirs. There are many cases of these sorts of things happening and its getting worse with one group outright saying they want to change Australia into a muslim country. I have no problem with culture adapting but whats currently going on isn't adapting. I'm not saying its an invasion or anything but it is a problem. Not letting children celebrate Christmas in a Cristian country is just wrong to me.
Again it's not a Christian country it's an Aboriginal one.

Also as this is not in any case WW related. OT: let's hope WWIII never hapens.
So I'm guessing you believe that America is a indian country and Europe is pagan. You say cultures adapt. Well Australia has adapted into a Cristian country and while this may change in the future that's how it is for now and I believe that imigrants need to respect that. At home they can worship however they please but in public they should accept how things are here. If I went to a muslim country and tried to change their ways they'd have me locked up. Yeah this is off track, but you started it :p
 

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PMorgan18 said:
dashiz94 said:
Um...I'm pretty sure Germany started the second World War when they INVADED Poland.
They wouldn't have invaded Poland if it wasn't for the ridiculousness of the Treaty of Versailles.
The treaty destroyed the German economy allowing Hitler to rise to power and use the German people's hatred and distrust to setup his Third Reich.
to what degree do you blame france/england/the usa/anyone else who contributed to the treaty of versailles (i think it was just those three though), and to what degree do you blame Germany for starting the second world war? just curious
 

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Isn't a large part of the world already at war?

America and Allies busy running troops and drones up and down some third world counties.

UN bombing Libya.

Several Arab countries facing massive uprisings.

The 2 Koreas enjoying some skirmishes and threats.

Sudan getting ready to divide itself and start a war between North and South.

Somalia, facing massive internal turmoil and sending more ppl fleeing to the seas for piracy.

Israel and Palestine - the never-ending war.

The inevitable strike of Israel/America on Iran still looming ahead.

Several other egs. Heck, even the Canadians had a riot.

It may not be a World War, but it is a World at war.
I don't mean to imply it directly towards you but I find this kind of thinking a little naive. To equate the small scale fighting around the world to almost suggest we're in a globe of violence and a world at war... problem is this sort of fighting has always been going on throughout history. While it's not perfect and the 90's were better, post cold war has probably been the most peaceful era in human civilization history, or at the very least it is per capita. It's pretty much been all guerrilla warfare, either advanced armies fighting under-equipped insurgents or militia's wiping out unwanted residents. Real wars where two trained professional armies go at it with both expecting to win just doesn't really happen anymore.
 

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My guess is wherever there is the most oil at the time, which may or may not be in the middle east.
 

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BonsaiK said:
Devon Dent said:
BonsaiK said:
Saucycardog said:
BonsaiK said:
Saucycardog said:
BonsaiK said:
Saucycardog said:
The title says it.

Do you think world war 3 will start in Israel? Germany? North Korea? Australia?
It won't happen. The political and cultural landscape of the planet has permanently changed in such a way as to make a third world war impossible. The closest thing we'll ever get is the current "war on terror" which really isn't a world war any more than the "war on drugs" is a world war.
India and Pakistan almost went to war in 2001/2002. And they still hate each other.
That wouldn't have been a world war, that would have been an India/Pakistan war.
But it would have been a nuclear war. =D
No it wouldn't, for very obvious reasons. Think about the proximity of those two countries and WHY they hate each other.

Still not a world war anyway.
Well it wouldn't be a world war straight away. But if it went on long enough, and shit got real, other countries could be asked for aid from either side.
The worst that could happen is that the US backs India and then it'd be just like fighting the Taliban again but from the other direction. Not a world war, not even close.
Well I was more thinking the world just says 'screw this' and everyone picks sides because they can. I never once was thinking of this as a real possibility. I would like to think that we as a collective people have learned what we lose from war is no where what we gain, even on the winning side. The exception being the war on terror which, although not a real 'world war' really affects the world scale.
 

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Too many factors to predict. There will probably be a large global conflict sometime in the future, but where the powers lie when that comes is up in the air. The US is just a couple hundred years old; it's anyone's guess no what the world will look like 100 or so years from now.

Could you imagine how preposterous it might seem to a man of France or the United Kingdom on the eve of WW1 that the US would be a global superpower in just 40 years? That in a few years the German, Austrian, Russian, and Ottoman Empires would all collapse? Russia would collapse, rise from the ashes, and collapse again before the year 2000? They thought we would have flying cars by now.
 

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Some nation in the middle east. Or perhaps between the Korea's or between India and Pakistan. I doubt that any of the major nations will start a full out war right now. It'll probably be like WWI in that it'll be between some smaller nations that will "drag" the rest of the major powers into it.

My bet is on the Korea's right now. The US supports the South while the Chinese are the closest thing the North has to allies. I don't know if the Chinese would support them in a war if the US got involved, but it's the closest thing I see to two major powers going at it.

All in all though, I don't see any world war popping up anytime soon. The thing about war is that we always seem to fully understand it- right before the next one arrives.
 

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Astoria said:
Prince Regent said:
Astoria said:
here in Australia we are getting almost overrun by imagrants and they're trying to change our culture so that's not gonna end well. Somethings gonna give eventually and it won't be pretty when it does. I say the all out world war will start somewhere in the middle east.
Australian culture?
Oh your religious values based upon reverence for the land and your a belief in a "Dreamtime" will all change. Most of those imigrants probably don't even know how to play the didgeridoo.

Good luck in stopping those Imigrants that are "trying to change your culture"
An example is some schools aren't allowed to celebrate Christmas because there is one muslim child at the school. Believe it or not we do have a culture here in Australia and it's being taken away from us.


The thing about the migrants is that they are a valued work force, and they're going to keep flooding here as long as the rest of the world is shit. Even when they're are members of the migrants shouting cultural revolution, they're still not a worry.

It's not anything to do with them 'taking over' or 'changing culture' like some of the migrants claim is the mission, the ones that say that are dip-shits in every sense of the word, how have neither an understanding of Australian migrant history, or Australia in general.

You can not change Australian bureaucracy, for better or worse, full stop. 200 years of migrants coming to Australia and being ostracized, having to put up with being marginalized for 2 decades before their culture intergrates, and what happened to those new migrant communities; they integrated.

Long story short, here in the ol' Down Under, ALL WILL BE ASSIMILATED, RESISTANCE IS HOPELESS. It just takes about two decades for the migrants from different cultural backgrounds to abandon what they were and become dispassionate/bureaucratic like the rest us Australians.


On to the issue of they keep coming here because the rest of the world is shit. Well, there is nothing we can do about that, our country is one of the top 11 most stable countries in the world. The other countries considered to have it as good as us in terms of political and financial stability, here's the list:
Austria, Switzerland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Canada, Netherlands, Finland, New Zealand and Ireland.

And in further perspective of the difference between highly stable countries and others, Finland leads the pack with a large margin, the other 10; TIED AT SECOND PLACE.

That is a really short list. In perspective, China is considered dangerously unstable and it's only halfway down the list. U.S.A is doing pretty well though, rank 19.


SOURCE: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/06/17/2011_failed_states_index_interactive_map_and_rankings

Pretty cool to look at that map, I have a friend in Oman, and that map has Oman and Qatar as the only stable countries, for nearly 2000 miles.

2000 miles. DAMN!
 

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The Middle East, if one location.
Middle East, Eastern Asia and possibly somewhere inside of the old Soviet bloc. So pretty much Asia and a little bit of Eastern Europe.
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World War 3 on a Terraformed Moon or Mars... Why has this not been made a Video Game?!
Seriously. Why? Sounds like it would be four types of awesome.
 

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I've had this idea ever since Modern Warfare 2 ended, and I was reading up on characters.

MW3 starts out at Makarov's estate during the raid. Only this time, instead of playing as Roach, you play as Toad with Archer being the guide character. Remember them? They were the two snipers at the beginning of the level. The level proceeds as normal--Archer taking out the jeeps with the javelin while you provide cover fire--and then you witness the betrayal (spoiler alert for the two of you who didn't know). From there, the level involves eluding the enemy forces and getting out of the area. I still haven't figured out if they should die at the end or escape, but I'm leaning toward escape and link up with Price, Soap, and the others.
This would be a perfect way to start a game because A) you're playing as a sniper, so you can learn how to shoot from a safe distance without worrying about return fire. Much more fun that shooting those fake targets at a range. B) It's a shout out to those that played the second game and wraps up a little plot hole. C) You are introduced to all the elements of gameplay right away, just like in the training missions from the other games. Melee attack? During your sneak escape, take out the guy that Archer says. Aim down your sites? You're using a sniper rifle for crying out loud. Grenades and flash bangs? Once again, during your escape. It's all covered.
Is this going to happen? Sadly, probably not. We'll be stuck running some version of "The Pit" AGAIN because they still don't think we know how to play the game.