Why are you people so negative?

[Rad Party God]

I'm not pessimistic, as anyone would've guessed. I love Nintendo, but, as somebody already said, there are like 10 or 15 people who hate it with a burning passion, just because they make great games out of existing 26 year old IPs, not that I say the same about certain military shooter franchises.

It's the internet, get used to it, I can only recommend you 1 word: "To each his own". (AKA, Haters Gonna Hate)

 

[The-Epicly-Named-Man]

Welcome to the Escapist, where everyone's stopped giving a sh*t about everything, but still insists on lecturing everyone about things that are obvious! Seriously though, at least most people here have semi-rational views on life.

 

[Dagda Mor]

I'm having trouble understanding why so many of the people on the site are so pessimistic. Every other comment is "That greedy (insert company name here) is making money! RAAAAAGGGEE." I'm just happy that the company isn't going bankrupt and firing thousands of it's employees. or when you say "humanity has no value" or some bullcrap about how half of humanity should die off.

Plus gammers aren't exactly the most worst off group of people. We can afford a current gen console or a used ps2 if we're short on cash. In fact, some of us can afford crazy powerful gamming PCs.

My brain hurts just trying to make sense of you soulless depressed group of people.

I'm quite content with my life.It's just my philosophical views that are damn depressing.

 

[Sassafrass]

I don't see anyone negative here, maybe you get the occasional troll or something but otherwise; it's a pretty happy community.

Oh-hoh, wait until you've been here a few more years my friend =P

It's around the year mark you notice it, I found.

But you'll learn to ignore it eventually, OP. Besides, it's not as bad as it used to be, when we used to have a couple of "I've lost faith in humanity!" threads in a week. And now, to lighten the mood a little bit, I give you all many cute kittens in baskets. [http://images.google.co.uk/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=667&q=Kittens!&gbv=2&oq=Kittens!&aq=f&aqi=g10&gs_upl=1087l2307l0l2719l8l7l0l0l0l0l216l1254l0.6.1l7l0&uss=1#hl=en&gbv=2&tbm=isch&q=cute+kittens+in+a+basket&revid=1951821331&sa=X&ei=xXhiTuOlDIS68gOIwKy6Cg&ved=0CDkQ1QIoAA&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=f8356fe34ef6aeb4&biw=1366&bih=667]

 

[DAPLR]

Wanna talk negative!? Try being a Star Wars fan who likes The new ones and doesn't care about the added in stuff to the originals....you get eaten ALIVE!!!

Very few Star Wars fans are positive about this kind of thing

Ok new trilogy fine that is a matter of taste, JarJar again fine but come on some of the changes are down right stupid and don't make sense. Greedo shooting first while not a big one the reason for it is a bit of a cop out and goes against what Han should be at least at the start(A dirty smuggler). As much as I hate to admit it at least there is more sound reasoning(only slightly) in putting in Hayden despite the fact it is still more of a cop out and my personal most hated change.

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No, what the Escapist has isn't a surplus of misanthropes. What we have is a surplus of people who THINK they are misanthropes, brought in by lure of Yahtzee and his weekly dumps on the world. And then they stay when they find the forums, a sufficiently validating dumping ground for their grievances with the world, their regrets in life, and their general angst.

But no, most of them aren't misanthropes through and through. They've just diluted themselves into thinking so, because the community here is accepting to those types. It becomes their alter-ego, in a sense. They can be as negative as they want to be without the consequences and demands of social norms that functioning real society offers.

I really wish sarcasm were easy to read. I will agree with you, though.

Lol, I'm not being sarcastic. I'm being perfectly serious. From what I've seen these last couple of years, the Escapist has a lot of neat people, but too many of them are far too convinced that they are stone-cold, pillars of misanthropic logic in a world "overrun with idiots and losers." What they really need is a hug, a good cry, and something to get that stick that's been shoved too far up their ass.

It was always like this. For all the things that have changed on this site this has remained constant.

I lift an eyebrow to your choice of words. That the new trilogy is a matter of taste. As was the old one, mate. And you thinking the little mini-second changes are bad is a core problem with the Star Wars fan-base. They are tiny, very ignorable changes. And I personally like the Vader 'No' being put into the re-re-re-release(lol) for reasons I am tired of explaining -_-

Also, a word for Jar Jar. Being a new adult (18) I didn't know Star Wars growing up. Neither did my friends or anyone. It was a 20 year old film saga. But the new episode 1 did have a family appeal, but as did all the others (chewbacca, anyone?), and it REALLY helped keep the interest of what the Star Wars team knew was the generation that will be able to talk of Star Wars as a saga, rather than a set of movies that are alienated by each other by the supposed fans of said saga....Whew.
By the way, you would be a LOT(and I'm willing to bet you HAVE) been a lot more negative to people like me if it weren't for the sake of this thread being about negativity

 

[someguyfromhell666]

Some people just need to be knocked off their high horses. All that optimism may actually lead the world to destruction faster.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Wanna talk negative!? Try being a Star Wars fan who likes The new ones and doesn't care about the added in stuff to the originals....you get eaten ALIVE!!!

Very few Star Wars fans are positive about this kind of thing

Ok new trilogy fine that is a matter of taste, JarJar again fine but come on some of the changes are down right stupid and don't make sense. Greedo shooting first while not a big one the reason for it is a bit of a cop out and goes against what Han should be at least at the start(A dirty smuggler). As much as I hate to admit it at least there is more sound reasoning(only slightly) in putting in Hayden despite the fact it is still more of a cop out and my personal most hated change.

-snip-

No, what the Escapist has isn't a surplus of misanthropes. What we have is a surplus of people who THINK they are misanthropes, brought in by lure of Yahtzee and his weekly dumps on the world. And then they stay when they find the forums, a sufficiently validating dumping ground for their grievances with the world, their regrets in life, and their general angst.

But no, most of them aren't misanthropes through and through. They've just diluted themselves into thinking so, because the community here is accepting to those types. It becomes their alter-ego, in a sense. They can be as negative as they want to be without the consequences and demands of social norms that functioning real society offers.

I really wish sarcasm were easy to read. I will agree with you, though.

Lol, I'm not being sarcastic. I'm being perfectly serious. From what I've seen these last couple of years, the Escapist has a lot of neat people, but too many of them are far too convinced that they are stone-cold, pillars of misanthropic logic in a world "overrun with idiots and losers." What they really need is a hug, a good cry, and something to get that stick that's been shoved too far up their ass.

It was always like this. For all the things that have changed on this site this has remained constant.

I lift an eyebrow to your choice of words. That the new trilogy is a matter of taste. As was the old one, mate. And you thinking the little mini-second changes are bad is a core problem with the Star Wars fan-base. They are tiny, very ignorable changes. And I personally like the Vader 'No' being put into the re-re-re-release(lol) for reasons I am tired of explaining -_-

Also, a word for Jar Jar. Being a new adult (18) I didn't know Star Wars growing up. Neither did my friends or anyone. It was a 20 year old film saga. But the new episode 1 did have a family appeal, but as did all the others (chewbacca, anyone?), and it REALLY helped keep the interest of what the Star Wars team knew was the generation that will be able to talk of Star Wars as a saga, rather than a set of movies that are alienated by each other by the supposed fans of said saga....Whew.
By the way, you would be a LOT(and I'm willing to bet you HAVE) been a lot more negative to people like me if it weren't for the sake of this thread being about negativity

Last point first no I happen to like Episode 1 but not 2 and liked 3. I do like Jar Jar but I see where the criticism comes from.

I wasn't really asking about the "No" which the reason is stupid as well and it doesn't add much. I don't care if you like it or not that is fine but it does not greatly add but it does detract a bit from the scene.

What I was talking about it is the really really pointless changes like Hayden's ghost and Greedo shooting first. Ignorable or not these changes among others(like the No) are really pointless and have not added to the experience of the movies and this is coming from a Star Wars fan younger than you that has seen the 1997 release before the new trilogy.

You can lift an eyebrow if you want all things like which one is good or bad is a matter of taste so I am just stating as that I am not debating the merits of the movies as movies or even as part of the franchise. A pointless addition that has split the fan base over what? Making the movie more of a true Sci Fi by explaining something that did not need to be explained. Ignorable but nonetheless pointless.

So yes fine I am the biggest problem with the Star Wars franchise and fan base because I just do not see the merits of having Greedo shooting first(having Han appear a True Hero which he does not start out to be), Hayden's ghost(tbh this is more to make it relate able to new gen people than making the story "full circle"), the change of music from Lapti Nek and Jedi Rocks(It really does not add any more atmosphere to the scene they both create the same effect). You would think with all the editing he would edit out the green skin alien chick's nips.

Also thank you on being a big martyr and saying that I am a shit person and that I give people shit due to their opinion even though you have never ever talked to before about Star Wars ever. So no I don't give people shit for an opinion on something like this but once again these changes have added nothing but an increasingly divisive fan base as they added nothing to begin with as I have gone back and looked at the original scenes and the changes do not do what they say on the tin.

Edit: By the way I never said the changes were inherently bad or even bad(I said I hated a few). I said they were pointless and stupid thus unneeded.

 

[MelasZepheos_v1legacy]

Yeah, the Escapist does seem to do little other than *****. I know it's the grand stereotype of the internet that everyone on it is constantly bitching, but the Esapist elevates it somewhat.

Not that there aren't places that are worse, because of course they are, but it sometimes seems to me that what people think 'intellectual debate' means is 'excessive negativity.'

And of course then there's those that seem to do nothing except come into threads which obviously aren't intended for them, solely for the purpose of crapping all over everyone's happiness. Like someone who hates women and dating going into a 'So Have You Ever Fallen In Love?' thread simply to say 'Love is a delusion caused by chemical imbalances, life is pain Limp Bizkit crawling in my skin etc.'

Also, to anyone who spouts the usual 'I don't hate humanity, I just think we need some pruning.' What you really mean, almost without exception, is 'I think we should get rid of the people who I think aren't contributing.' Without actually specifying what 'contributing' is. Possibly because if you did then you might find yourself included in that description.

I like this site, but a large part of that like is because reading the forums reminds me of being 17, when I was a total douchebag who thought I knew it all.

 

[AbsoluteVirtue18]

I don't know. I mean, I've had a pretty crappy life, but I try my darnedest to be optimistic. Maybe it depends on the way people are brought up. I mean c'mon guys! How can you be depressed in a world where we have...

Broccoli casserole?!

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[small]Huh, I should get mom to put broccoli on the top part next time.[/small]

And Rainbows!

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And Patrick Stewart!

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And kittens!

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And ice sculptures of Optimus Prime!

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Seriously, life is only as bad as you make it.

 

[HHammond]

Because of this ridiculous philosophy that everything = shit, started off by that thick-as-shit numbskull Yahtzee.

I don't Yahtzee started that. The philosophy of "everything = shit" has been around since the greeks so... yeah.

 

[Blaster395]

Because the whole internet is full of Wangst.

 

[MorganL4]

Wanna talk negative!? Try being a Star Wars fan who likes The new ones and doesn't care about the added in stuff to the originals....you get eaten ALIVE!!!

Very few Star Wars fans are positive about this kind of thing

Well that statement made me want to nerdrage and be negative telling you why you are wrong..... yadda yadda yadda. But for the purposes of this thread I will simply say:

To each his own.

 

[Hamster at Dawn]

Sounds like you're the grumpy-pants if you ask me. Complaining that people are so negative is such a negative thing to say. Turn that frown upside down!

 

[imnot]

SHut up Mr happy ! Humanity is terrible I hope we all die in a terrible fire made of snakes angstangsst ansgt angst.

OT: We are actually pretty cheerful, its just that negative this tend to be more memorable

(by the way I wasnt being serious up there)

 

[Tekkawarrior]

I'm having trouble understanding why so many of the people on the site are so pessimistic. Every other comment is "That greedy (insert company name here) is making money! RAAAAAGGGEE." I'm just happy that the company isn't going bankrupt and firing thousands of it's employees. or when you say "humanity has no value" or some bullcrap about how half of humanity should die off.

Plus gammers aren't exactly the most worst off group of people. We can afford a current gen console or a used ps2 if we're short on cash. In fact, some of us can afford crazy powerful gamming PCs.

My brain hurts just trying to make sense of you soulless depressed group of people.

You haven't seen enough crap to make you lose faith in humanity. Unlike the rest of us I suppose.

 

[MaxwellEdison]

That's not negativity, that's being dissatisfied. Sorry, but living in a first world country doesn't mean I have to be happy all the time.

 

[Ulquiorra4sama]

I'm having trouble understanding why so many of the people on the site are so pessimistic. Every other comment is "That greedy (insert company name here) is making money! RAAAAAGGGEE." I'm just happy that the company isn't going bankrupt and firing thousands of it's employees. or when you say "humanity has no value" or some bullcrap about how half of humanity should die off.

Plus gammers aren't exactly the most worst off group of people. We can afford a current gen console or a used ps2 if we're short on cash. In fact, some of us can afford crazy powerful gamming PCs.

My brain hurts just trying to make sense of you soulless depressed group of people.

I've thought about the same, but i think it's more that people on here are pretty cynical.

I will admit to being like that myself and i've had teachers confirm it, but i still enjoy life. I don't whine about my problems and i try to stay positive and trust things to turn out as best as they can in the end. I value the little things in the world and if things go sour i find something to take my mind off it.

Despite what i've said above i do believe that humans are the cruelest, most unforgiving and greed of all living things on this planet. I don't let that keep me down though 'cause i've seen examples of people moving past that and it just gives me the power to believe in a brighter more loving future.

So a cynic, but not a pessismist

 

[zehydra]

"half of humanity should die off"

no, it's usually just "humanity should die off".

I dunno OP. I'm kind of like you, in that I consider myself an optimist. People who love to hate seem to come here, and thankfully few of them ever venture into the basement.

So basically, you guys up here get to deal with them.

hahahahahaahaahah

 

[Double A]

A lot of teens (especially preteens) are gamers. Ergo, we get a lot of angst in the form of whining about companies. Some of it [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management]is justified, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EA_Games#Studio_acquisition_and_management_practices]though. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Kotick]

 

[Nimcha]

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No, what the Escapist has isn't a surplus of misanthropes. What we have is a surplus of people who THINK they are misanthropes, brought in by lure of Yahtzee and his weekly dumps on the world. And then they stay when they find the forums, a sufficiently validating dumping ground for their grievances with the world, their regrets in life, and their general angst.

But no, most of them aren't misanthropes through and through. They've just diluted themselves into thinking so, because the community here is accepting to those types. It becomes their alter-ego, in a sense. They can be as negative as they want to be without the consequences and demands of social norms that functioning real society offers.

I really wish sarcasm were easy to read. I will agree with you, though.

Lol, I'm not being sarcastic. I'm being perfectly serious. From what I've seen these last couple of years, the Escapist has a lot of neat people, but too many of them are far too convinced that they are stone-cold, pillars of misanthropic logic in a world "overrun with idiots and losers." What they really need is a hug, a good cry, and something to get that stick that's been shoved too far up their ass.

Couldn't agree more! The whole Extra Credits debacle was a fine example of this.

And hilarious to follow.