Why aren't hats allowed in schools?

[chadachada123]

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I don't see how any of that has to do specifically with hats and couldn't be done just as much with any other piece of clothing.

In general, we additionally haven't gotten into why some accessories (necklaces, bracelets, etc) are allowed but certain ones on the head (hats) are not allowed while others (headbands/whatever-girls-wear) are allowed. It's a complete double-standard.

 

[Double A]

Because you can tip your head and suddenly the teacher can't make eye contact with you. Plus it's just the way things have always been done. No sense getting all up in arms about what you are and aren't allowed to wear at school.

I can tip it back if they tell me to, right? Is there now some invisible demon holding me back from moving it so it no longer blocks my face?

I'd only be pissed about my school's hat policy if I had a cool hat.

Or if anyone enforced it.

I have a cool hat and the policy is enforced. It sucks.

 

[WaywardHaymaker]

I'd only be pissed about my school's hat policy if I had a cool hat.

Or if anyone enforced it.

I have a cool hat and the policy is enforced. It sucks.[/quote]

D'aaw. Why not join a religion that requires its followers to wear cool head coverings? Like... Hatduism?

 

[kikon9]

There might be gangs in Raleigh, NC, but if there are, they only do graffitti. Big deal.

Also, the hat in question I want to wear is made of leather. It's brown. What gang uses brown leather as a symbol? The Raging 'Roos?

Now that you've said that, I'm gonna start that gang.

 

[SHIFTYMACO]

The main reason is respect.
And kids tend to hide behind their hats.
I have done a bit of teaching and its simple.
I want to talk to YOU, not your damn hat!

Grow up people!

 

[emeraldrafael]

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You seem to keep making this about you as an individual. im sorry ot tell you but the world does not revolve around you. if application is in general, then you shouldnt expect special treatment. You clearly worry about lice, and tahts great, more power to you. But others dont, and if you do something to lower the chance of the ones that dont at the price of the ones that do, then you do it. Again, its been said before, but it wont kill you to be without a hat. You're not being discriminated against, youre not making some giant social statement, you're not the rosa parks of hat wearers.

In the end, I can only speak for how things work at my school. In general, we had better teachers. They cared how the students did, and they made sure to pay attention to you to see if you were cheating. If you kept looking down and not at your test, you were suspected of cheating, and its very easy to tell when someone is pulling that little stunt.

And hats werent banned for those reasons above. hats werent banned in my school, but they may as well have been, cuase there was only three teachers that didnt mind you having a hat. Those are just examples of hats being used to offend someone, like you asked.

TL;DR Grow up and deal with it, cause thats how the world works sonny. You cant always get what you want, and special exceptions should not be made for you because you feel they should.

 

[spartan231490]

I googled it and I found this:

1 It is impolite to wear hats indoors. Men should always remove their hats when entering a building.
2 They can block the view of people behind them.
3 The colors are often associated with gangs.
4 People play games with them, taking them and playing keep away, etc.
5 Hats can increase the transmission of lice
6 They can be used to conceal weapons or cheating implements

1. Big fucking deal, and no we shouldn't. That is an outdated and arguably sexist way of thinking.
2. They can, but that seems to be a height issue.
3. So are the rest of people's clothing. That's like banning steak knives because knives can be used to kill people, but not banning other knives.
4. Just like with almost any other possession? Great argument, school system.
5. Lice? Freakin' lice? How many people have lice these days? What's more, if you're worried about lice, don't let other people wear your hat. That's what I do. Calling BS yet again.
6. One word: Pockets.

The only thing I can think of that comes even close to a legitimate reason is it blocks your face on cameras. However, I'm pretty sure they could identify you by your hat, not to mention other clothing and backpack.

Can someone please explain why basically every school doesn't allow hats unless it's "spirit week?" Maybe I can actually convince someone to let me wear my damn hat.

The first reason is the real reason. It comes down to tradition and respect. Why should the fork be on the left(or whatever side it should be)? Why do we say please? courtesy doesn't make sense, it's not defined by logic, but tradition. Deal with it.

 

[StBishop]

I googled it and I found this:

1 It is impolite to wear hats indoors. Men should always remove their hats when entering a building.
2 They can block the view of people behind them.
3 The colors are often associated with gangs.
4 People play games with them, taking them and playing keep away, etc.
5 Hats can increase the transmission of lice
6 They can be used to conceal weapons or cheating implements

1. Big fucking deal, and no we shouldn't. That is an outdated and arguably sexist way of thinking.
2. They can, but that seems to be a height issue.
3. So are the rest of people's clothing. That's like banning steak knives because knives can be used to kill people, but not banning other knives.
4. Just like with almost any other possession? Great argument, school system.
5. Lice? Freakin' lice? How many people have lice these days? What's more, if you're worried about lice, don't let other people wear your hat. That's what I do. Calling BS yet again.
6. One word: Pockets.

The only thing I can think of that comes even close to a legitimate reason is it blocks your face on cameras. However, I'm pretty sure they could identify you by your hat, not to mention other clothing and backpack.

Can someone please explain why basically every school doesn't allow hats unless it's "spirit week?" Maybe I can actually convince someone to let me wear my damn hat.

1. It's important to be polite. If you don't understand why, then you're probably part of the reason that your school has rules forcing you to be polite. Taking a hat off indoors is the same as closing an umbrella when going indoors. Not many (if any) people are likely to be offended but I know plenty of people who will either think differently of you or at least appreciate the gesture of taking off your hat when in their house.
Also, this isn't about sex. A woman wearing a baseball cap or Akubra would be expected to do the same.

2. Seems silly, I'll grant that.

3. This is a legitimate concern. A single fight caused by gang colours is enough of a reason to ban anything non-uniform. If your school has no uniform, well then banning hats seems a little silly but the 1st reason is still valid.

4. This is also a legitimate concern, in fact we had a mate who wore a ratty old hat which we all hated. (none of us wore a hat really) and so we stole his hat and played keep away every single lunch until we were about 16. I also put a kids hat in a tree because I thought it was funny.
On the note of "applies to all posessions", most schools ban everything from mobiles (cells) to novels for the exact same reason. It's usually not enforced (with the exception of phones and media devices because teachers hate them, and kids are stupid enough to use them in class) but is more there so that when shit gets broken and stolen, the school can say "you shouldn't have had it here to begin with."

5. Lice are very common. Especially in schools. I use to get lice pretty much weekly when my sister was in primary school. The thing with lice is that they don't really care what socio-economic background you're from. So long as you have blood, hair that's not mega greasy and are near by, they'll love you.

6. If they could feasibly ban pockets they would. Trust me.

For a little back ground.
I went to a school which had uniform hats, we weren't allowed to wear any other kind; I went to a school which made us wear a hat but didn't provide a uniform one meaning we could wear what we liked; and I went to a school that didn't let us wear them unless on an excursion/sports day etc.

 

[Chizniz]

Don't know if it has been mentioned, but essentially it is easier for kids from other schools to sneak in so that they can hang out with their friends all day or vandalize shit. That actually used to be a huge problem when I was in high school.

Some kids from another school blended in with hats and hoodies during the break and beat the shit out of students they had a vendetta against. I even did that and got away with it (the hanging out with friends at another school thing, not the vandalism or jumping people thing.) If you are allowed to have a hat (mostly ball caps) with a hoodie pulled down, you become more difficult to identify. Full stop. I'm sorry but there are always going to be way more kids who want to pull shit than watchful teachers.

Yeah you can complain about it, but one of the main points of school (maybe more so than the curriculum) is to teach you that there is a time and place for everything. The people that don't get that end up being the d-bags who stop to answer a phone call during a university lecture, or show up to job interviews with their "Pussy Hunter" t-shirt. BUT probably more important than that if being taught how to sit down and shut up while someone bellows orders at you.

Not to be cynical or anything.

 

[StBishop]

I was always more annoyed at them banning brightly coloured socks or underwear.

I mean, hat's I get, line of sight is needed while teaching and a hat is a convenient thing to use to hide your eyes. But socks and fucking underwear? I never understood that rule in the slightest.

I mean, it could apparently distract other students. If that was the case every person in my uni class would be absolutely fucked.

How would they know if you're wearing brightly coloured underwear? I think you have a bigger issue then the colour if you can see it.

Pretty girl + white cotton school shirt + any bra that isn't skin tone = half the class perving in stead of working.

Also, the thing that dgostile edited in, in some places it's very common to see the top of a person's underwear. Especially boys.

 

[Paragon Fury]

Because it is impolite to wear hats indoors unless you are part of a color guard or other professional who would have reason to wear a hat.

 

[Phlakes]

Because it's easier. If everyone just doesn't wear one, it's all that less hat-related shit the staff has to deal with. And any amount of hat-related shit greater than zero is too much when there's an easy solution.

give it 20 years, everyone will go to school in a onesie and just be served meals and taught by computer consoles

i mean, computers are cheaper than teachers anyway.

and yes, there should always be schools, because people need some kind of social interaction

I'm guessing that was implying disallowing hats limits freedom and independence, but just in case it isn't I won't bother. Actually, even if it is, I won't.

 

[emeraldrafael]

I was always more annoyed at them banning brightly coloured socks or underwear.

I mean, hat's I get, line of sight is needed while teaching and a hat is a convenient thing to use to hide your eyes. But socks and fucking underwear? I never understood that rule in the slightest.

I mean, it could apparently distract other students. If that was the case every person in my uni class would be absolutely fucked.

How would they know if you're wearing brightly coloured underwear? I think you have a bigger issue then the colour if you can see it.

Pretty girl + white cotton school shirt + any bra that isn't skin tone = half the class perving in stead of working.

Also, the thing that dgostile edited in, in some places it's very common to see the top of a person's underwear. Especially boys.

hadnt really though of the first, though you could say that with any colour bra thats dark enough. Not that that makes much of an argument, just kinda saying.

Also yeah, I know that second part. i dont agree with that style, and any of the teachers in my school will send you to the principal's where he pulled your pants up and gave you a belt or 3 days in ICE. it was an effective strategy.

 

[H1N1]

i wear hats indoors and out because i don't like my hair ._.

 

[Tselis]

It's because nobody wants this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_lice

Distribution

About 6?12 million people, mainly children, are treated annually for head lice in the United States alone. High levels of louse infestations have also been reported from all over the world, including Israel, Denmark, Sweden, UK, France, and Australia.

It might not seem like a huge number, but no one wants it in their schools.

 

[Dethenger]

Christ, I never thought this thread would get so heated.

I don't suppose there's any reason to need a hat indoors, but that doesn't mean it should be outright banned. I wear my jacket indoors, even on warm days, because I'm rather fond of my jacket. I'd probably be irritated if for some arbitrary reason wearing it was prohibited; similarly, I imagine another person would be irritated if their bracelet was prohibited, or some other article of clothing. Such as a hat.

 

[Pegghead]

In my case it's because of the uniform. Oh sure there's a school hat, but noone forces you to wear it and you'd just look like a git wearing it inside.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

there is no reason to have to wear a hat inside

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=5280671

Nope. I wear hats when I need a haircut and can't get one at the moment. So, eat me, bro.

now just curious...how does hat = excuse for haircut?

also, bring it haircutless hatman.

 

[CthulhuMessiah]

5. Lice? Freakin' lice? How many people have lice these days? What's more, if you're worried about lice, don't let other people wear your hat. That's what I do. Calling BS yet again.

In a K-12 school, it is absolutely ridiculous how fast a case of lice in Kindergarten will travel to all other classrooms.

I agree with you on everything else, though.

 

[chaosyoshimage]

Because school is the most fashion stifling place I've ever been...