I was the smart ass that wore a hat to school daring a teacher to call me for a dress code violation. Since the rules said NOTHING about hats i enjoyed the look on their faces; and the enemies i made wearing my base ball cap, cowboy hat, Tyrolean(got some funny looks), and Union Kepi.
FUCK THE SYSTEM MAN!
Anyways.
1. Agreed; bunch of arbitrary rules made up by some dick cheese so he could fuck with people 500 years in the future.
2. I was the tallest person in class so i always sat in back; so a hat is meaningless.
3.Oh noes! the terrorist teenagers are revealing their affiliations in code! BAN THEM!
4. and i punched the dick weasel that tried to play keep away with my hats.
5. OH NOES! IGNORANCE LEADS TO PARASITE TRANSMISSION! BAN HATS! Or tell them sharing head-wear spreads lice. I find it funny that our school system bans something so they don't need to teach how to handle it properly.
6. So can my pockets, underwear, shoes, socks, shirt, belt, and back pack. Yet they remain ok.
Check for a solid rule that says you may not wear your hat. If it dosen't become a rule nazi and fuck them for lying to yo face.
Religious attire is the exception. Do you know of any religions that mandate a head covering for all males? I know Pastafarianism does so on International Talk Like a Pirate Day for pirate hats, but I'm not sure if it extends past that day or tricorns and other piratey hats.
gmaverick019 said:
Double A said:
gmaverick019 said:
Phlakes said:
Because it's easier. If everyone just doesn't wear one, it's all that less hat-related shit the staff has to deal with. And any amount of hat-related shit greater than zero is too much when there's an easy solution.
I don't care how outdated it is, hats (and by extension sunglasses) inside is rude. They no longer serve their purpose of protecting you from the sun and hinder polite conversation. Plus no matter what some kids think, wearing a Fedora (or commonly a Trilby mistaken for a fedora) does not make you cool.
OP you come across as a whiny teenager, there is no reason to have to wear a hat inside, it's lost it's sole purpose besides fashion, and if you really that edgy about being in fashion, then go be another hipster who skips class to be edgy and smoke outside with all the other cool kids, your in school to learn, not to wear a damn hat.
plus have you seen some of the hat's people wear (how they wear them?)
when people wear those types of fucking hats and wear them on top of goofy hairstyles, to make the hat even taller, you bet your ass that shit is a distraction/gets in the way, it essentially makes everyone have a fucking anvil for a head to look around.
This is my hat [http://i.imgur.com/K7x5c.jpg]. I look very, very bad without it, but I don't care because I wear it mainly for comfort. People who wear baseball caps backwards do look ridiculous.
Anyway, I fail to see how me wearing a hat interferes with my ability to learn, therefore they are not mutually exclusive.
Lastly, I'm bored/procrastinating, which is why I'm doing this. Also I'm probably too fat to be a hipster. Although if I don't say anything about it, it's pretty damn hard to refine my arguments and actually get permission to wear my hat inside from the silly old people who control my life.
i wasn't pointing at you specifically, but still that hat is pretty...ridiculous, not in a bad way, but still ridiculous.
so it is a fashion thing, if you say you look bad without it, and you wear it for comfort? something weighing down on your hair/head is for comfort?
and your saying baseball caps backwards look ridiculous..but your hat that is even bigger doesn't? that picture wasn't the fact that he was wearing it backwards, it was the fact of how out of proportion it was and how annoying it is with how long/big the bill/brim part of it is.
Yeah, fashion is just secondary. If I gave a damn about my appearance, I would shave every day. However, I'm too socially awkward for appearance to make a difference. My hat just feels good. Can't really explain why. It does look ridiculous, but so do Stestons, fezzes, and bow ties. That doesn't stop them from also being cool.
I did they look ridiculous, but I didn't say I wanted them to take them off. I can just ignore them. Only when you have big poofy afro hair and wear a hat backwards does it look truly ridiculous and even obnoxious (however that probably isn't the hat alone - yay stereotyping! Still, people who look like that are typically rather loud).
emeraldrafael said:
No its exactly as it says. If you're not worried about it, you're more likely to get it or already have it. Kids who worry about lice (In my school) didnt get it,w here the ones that said fuck it, I dont care and its free time off school did. I worried about it, so i did what i could to not get them, others didnt, they got them.
I wash my hair twice a day (usually). I care about my hair, I just haven't considered lice a possibility... like at all. I figured my head would itch rather seriously if I had any. Or maybe I just have the kind that eat dead skin, which would seem to actually be beneficial (no dandruff).
Please enlighten me about lice?
Then you can still see the notes or read the braille. its a lot easier to just glace up at a hat bill or make it look like you're nervously brushing the side of your hat then it is to look down in your pockets each time, since looking down draws more attention and makes an attentive teacher think you're cheating.
My friends tell me that if you look straight down at your desk the teacher doesn't notice. They stick it in their lap or hold it after taking it out of their pockets.
Oh yeah, you're clearly being downtrodden. the Civil Rights Movement issues have nothing on you, cause you cant wear a hat.
It's minor in comparison, and quite frankly, if you compare something minor to something major as an attempt to hand wave the situation, nothing will be done about minor issues that could turn into major ones. This happening to hats isn't very likely, but if you can bring something completely irrelevant into the conversation, then so can I!
meanwhile, you can still wear a shirt, pants, shoes, socks, etc to show your belief. But if you want to know about an offensive incident? Alright, i can think of a few, one I was apart of too.
1) Someone wore a hat into school one day that said Niggers arent people on the front, and on the back it had the word waiting... over a pair of shackles.
2) Another kid had a hat that said Jew Mad? Jew Leave! across the sides and on the front had Auschwitz was Idealt. There was also a swastika on the back.
3) I remember one year someone had started an argument after the Michael Vick dog fighting incident, where a kid wore Falcons hat in and someone said something to him about how he could support Vick (even though the kid made no mention of liking Vick at all, he just supported the Falcons cause he had family in Atlanta). that broke into a fight where the person who started the confrontation had actually brought in a ring and took a swing at the kid and scarred his face something fierce.
4) (the one I was involved in) If you listen to The X (a radio station in Pittsburgh) one of the things a guy Mark Madden may sometimes say is "the <url=http://www.freelogovector.com/gallery/p/tub/Philadelphia-Flyers-NHL.jpg>Philadelphia Flyers Symbol (hockey team) is nothing but a swastika with wings" So I bought a black hat, had this white space on the front and had a friend who works at a hat store sew into it a swastika with wings with the word Philly above it and Flyers below it (weirdly I offended more Flyers fans than anyone else).
These can easily be written on shirts. I don't see the need to single hats out when the real problem lies with people being assholes.
You have a bigger problem of actually looking into the sun then not wearing the hat, and if little baby cant stand their eyes having to adjust to the sudden transition from artificial to natural light, then you should just live in a windowless box for all your life and solve the problem that way.
I was only talking about accidentally staring at the sun, not eye adjustment. Accidents happen, hats are preventive gear.
Scarves can be for fashion, and can be for religion. we dont stop the jewish kids from wear Kippahs, but we did stop skull cap scarves and if a regular neck scarf was proving to be a distraction/safety hazard (one day somoene saw another person wearing one and went up behind them and pulled it tight, choking the girl), they are told to be removed while in the building. teachers can also request scarves be removed unless you have a good reason (one girl wore them cause she was sensitive about scars on her neck from when she was younger and ran into barbed wire).
Hats are for fashion, and can be for religion. Bandannas are not scarves. Scarves go around your neck.
Scarves can be used as a weapon? Hands can too. We should ban hands. Also, it's harder to use a hat as a weapon than a scarf, so thanks for providing a counterpoint to your own argument.
Then why can't the same apply to hats? That was a good reason, but doesn't really have a point to being part of your post.
Im sure you cant wear a hat in the middle of a theatre production unless its in the script as a costume so that doesnt fly with me. You chose to be in theatre, you shouldnt complain about lights in your eyes. I choose to play hockey, I dont complain when someone bigger and stronger then me sends me straight to the ground on a legal hit.
I only wear a hat on stage and it's not a costume when we're doing blocking and other non-acting tasks. The director is fine with it.
Robert632 said:
Because it's one of those things that while outdated and pointless is small enough that most places still enforce because most people will see it as childish to flip out over such a simple matter, thus no one will think to change it.
Hats are banned because they restrict blood flow to the brain inhibiting learning. This is particularly bad for some individuals who are already borderline unintelligent. Unfortunately this is often the same group that insists upon wearing hats all the time.
I don't see how any of that has to do specifically with hats and couldn't be done just as much with any other piece of clothing.
In general, we additionally haven't gotten into why some accessories (necklaces, bracelets, etc) are allowed but certain ones on the head (hats) are not allowed while others (headbands/whatever-girls-wear) are allowed. It's a complete double-standard.
Because you can tip your head and suddenly the teacher can't make eye contact with you. Plus it's just the way things have always been done. No sense getting all up in arms about what you are and aren't allowed to wear at school.
The main reason is respect.
And kids tend to hide behind their hats.
I have done a bit of teaching and its simple.
I want to talk to YOU, not your damn hat!
You seem to keep making this about you as an individual. im sorry ot tell you but the world does not revolve around you. if application is in general, then you shouldnt expect special treatment. You clearly worry about lice, and tahts great, more power to you. But others dont, and if you do something to lower the chance of the ones that dont at the price of the ones that do, then you do it. Again, its been said before, but it wont kill you to be without a hat. You're not being discriminated against, youre not making some giant social statement, you're not the rosa parks of hat wearers.
In the end, I can only speak for how things work at my school. In general, we had better teachers. They cared how the students did, and they made sure to pay attention to you to see if you were cheating. If you kept looking down and not at your test, you were suspected of cheating, and its very easy to tell when someone is pulling that little stunt.
And hats werent banned for those reasons above. hats werent banned in my school, but they may as well have been, cuase there was only three teachers that didnt mind you having a hat. Those are just examples of hats being used to offend someone, like you asked.
TL;DR Grow up and deal with it, cause thats how the world works sonny. You cant always get what you want, and special exceptions should not be made for you because you feel they should.
1 It is impolite to wear hats indoors. Men should always remove their hats when entering a building.
2 They can block the view of people behind them.
3 The colors are often associated with gangs.
4 People play games with them, taking them and playing keep away, etc.
5 Hats can increase the transmission of lice
6 They can be used to conceal weapons or cheating implements
1. Big fucking deal, and no we shouldn't. That is an outdated and arguably sexist way of thinking.
2. They can, but that seems to be a height issue.
3. So are the rest of people's clothing. That's like banning steak knives because knives can be used to kill people, but not banning other knives.
4. Just like with almost any other possession? Great argument, school system.
5. Lice? Freakin' lice? How many people have lice these days? What's more, if you're worried about lice, don't let other people wear your hat. That's what I do. Calling BS yet again.
6. One word: Pockets.
The only thing I can think of that comes even close to a legitimate reason is it blocks your face on cameras. However, I'm pretty sure they could identify you by your hat, not to mention other clothing and backpack.
Can someone please explain why basically every school doesn't allow hats unless it's "spirit week?" Maybe I can actually convince someone to let me wear my damn hat.
The first reason is the real reason. It comes down to tradition and respect. Why should the fork be on the left(or whatever side it should be)? Why do we say please? courtesy doesn't make sense, it's not defined by logic, but tradition. Deal with it.
1 It is impolite to wear hats indoors. Men should always remove their hats when entering a building.
2 They can block the view of people behind them.
3 The colors are often associated with gangs.
4 People play games with them, taking them and playing keep away, etc.
5 Hats can increase the transmission of lice
6 They can be used to conceal weapons or cheating implements
1. Big fucking deal, and no we shouldn't. That is an outdated and arguably sexist way of thinking.
2. They can, but that seems to be a height issue.
3. So are the rest of people's clothing. That's like banning steak knives because knives can be used to kill people, but not banning other knives.
4. Just like with almost any other possession? Great argument, school system.
5. Lice? Freakin' lice? How many people have lice these days? What's more, if you're worried about lice, don't let other people wear your hat. That's what I do. Calling BS yet again.
6. One word: Pockets.
The only thing I can think of that comes even close to a legitimate reason is it blocks your face on cameras. However, I'm pretty sure they could identify you by your hat, not to mention other clothing and backpack.
Can someone please explain why basically every school doesn't allow hats unless it's "spirit week?" Maybe I can actually convince someone to let me wear my damn hat.
1. It's important to be polite. If you don't understand why, then you're probably part of the reason that your school has rules forcing you to be polite. Taking a hat off indoors is the same as closing an umbrella when going indoors. Not many (if any) people are likely to be offended but I know plenty of people who will either think differently of you or at least appreciate the gesture of taking off your hat when in their house.
Also, this isn't about sex. A woman wearing a baseball cap or Akubra would be expected to do the same.
2. Seems silly, I'll grant that.
3. This is a legitimate concern. A single fight caused by gang colours is enough of a reason to ban anything non-uniform. If your school has no uniform, well then banning hats seems a little silly but the 1st reason is still valid.
4. This is also a legitimate concern, in fact we had a mate who wore a ratty old hat which we all hated. (none of us wore a hat really) and so we stole his hat and played keep away every single lunch until we were about 16. I also put a kids hat in a tree because I thought it was funny.
On the note of "applies to all posessions", most schools ban everything from mobiles (cells) to novels for the exact same reason. It's usually not enforced (with the exception of phones and media devices because teachers hate them, and kids are stupid enough to use them in class) but is more there so that when shit gets broken and stolen, the school can say "you shouldn't have had it here to begin with."
5. Lice are very common. Especially in schools. I use to get lice pretty much weekly when my sister was in primary school. The thing with lice is that they don't really care what socio-economic background you're from. So long as you have blood, hair that's not mega greasy and are near by, they'll love you.
6. If they could feasibly ban pockets they would. Trust me.
For a little back ground.
I went to a school which had uniform hats, we weren't allowed to wear any other kind; I went to a school which made us wear a hat but didn't provide a uniform one meaning we could wear what we liked; and I went to a school that didn't let us wear them unless on an excursion/sports day etc.
Don't know if it has been mentioned, but essentially it is easier for kids from other schools to sneak in so that they can hang out with their friends all day or vandalize shit. That actually used to be a huge problem when I was in high school.
Some kids from another school blended in with hats and hoodies during the break and beat the shit out of students they had a vendetta against. I even did that and got away with it (the hanging out with friends at another school thing, not the vandalism or jumping people thing.) If you are allowed to have a hat (mostly ball caps) with a hoodie pulled down, you become more difficult to identify. Full stop. I'm sorry but there are always going to be way more kids who want to pull shit than watchful teachers.
Yeah you can complain about it, but one of the main points of school (maybe more so than the curriculum) is to teach you that there is a time and place for everything. The people that don't get that end up being the d-bags who stop to answer a phone call during a university lecture, or show up to job interviews with their "Pussy Hunter" t-shirt. BUT probably more important than that if being taught how to sit down and shut up while someone bellows orders at you.
I was always more annoyed at them banning brightly coloured socks or underwear.
I mean, hat's I get, line of sight is needed while teaching and a hat is a convenient thing to use to hide your eyes. But socks and fucking underwear? I never understood that rule in the slightest.
I mean, it could apparently distract other students. If that was the case every person in my uni class would be absolutely fucked.
Because it's easier. If everyone just doesn't wear one, it's all that less hat-related shit the staff has to deal with. And any amount of hat-related shit greater than zero is too much when there's an easy solution.
I'm guessing that was implying disallowing hats limits freedom and independence, but just in case it isn't I won't bother. Actually, even if it is, I won't.
I was always more annoyed at them banning brightly coloured socks or underwear.
I mean, hat's I get, line of sight is needed while teaching and a hat is a convenient thing to use to hide your eyes. But socks and fucking underwear? I never understood that rule in the slightest.
I mean, it could apparently distract other students. If that was the case every person in my uni class would be absolutely fucked.
hadnt really though of the first, though you could say that with any colour bra thats dark enough. Not that that makes much of an argument, just kinda saying.
Also yeah, I know that second part. i dont agree with that style, and any of the teachers in my school will send you to the principal's where he pulled your pants up and gave you a belt or 3 days in ICE. it was an effective strategy.
About 6?12 million people, mainly children, are treated annually for head lice in the United States alone. High levels of louse infestations have also been reported from all over the world, including Israel, Denmark, Sweden, UK, France, and Australia.
It might not seem like a huge number, but no one wants it in their schools.
Christ, I never thought this thread would get so heated.
I don't suppose there's any reason to need a hat indoors, but that doesn't mean it should be outright banned. I wear my jacket indoors, even on warm days, because I'm rather fond of my jacket. I'd probably be irritated if for some arbitrary reason wearing it was prohibited; similarly, I imagine another person would be irritated if their bracelet was prohibited, or some other article of clothing. Such as a hat.
In my case it's because of the uniform. Oh sure there's a school hat, but noone forces you to wear it and you'd just look like a git wearing it inside.
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