Why aren't hats allowed in schools?

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daftalchemist said:
People do still get lice. It's not like a civilization becomes more cultured and suddenly all the louses go away. If that was the case there wouldn't have been that breakout of bedbugs a while back.

However, I do think it is a little silly just because girls can wear their slouchy berets and stuff, but baseball caps have to be taken off for some reason. Just so long as kid aren't coming in with huge ten-gallon hats that block everyone's view of the board, I really don't see a problem with it.
I know people still get lice, but the only lice infection I have ever known about was when I was in pre-Kindergarten... in a private school. It's too rare to fuss about.
Jack the Potato said:
Your arguments reek of whining. All of those reasons are actually pretty legitimate reasons, and it seems a bit immature to go off like you are because you can't wear a hat for half a day, 5 days a week. Hats aren't everything. Just be glad your school doesn't have uniforms.
I've had uniforms before. On top of that, I couldn't wear my hat. Removing the uniform did not make the lack of a hat any less annoying. Half a day, five days a week is a lot of time, especially because I'm usually sleeping or at home the other half.

Furthermore, I am not whining, I am complaining. I actually gave counterpoints, not just saying "No hats in school is a stupid rule waaaah."
Daystar Clarion said:
Zeren said:
I support banning hats because I find it amusing to watch children complain about it.
This.

It's a hat. I'm sure you can deal with not wearing it while indoors. If you get angry about social hat conventions, I'd hate to see what you'd be like when the shit really hits the fan.
I've been stewing over this issue for a long time, and I'd hardly consider this an overreaction.
CM156 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Zeren said:
I support banning hats because I find it amusing to watch children complain about it.
This.

It's a hat. I'm sure you can deal with not wearing it while indoors.
I'm with you on that one. It's not something worth complaining about.

It's a hat. A hat. So what if you can't wear it indoors?
Phlakes said:
Because it's easier. If everyone just doesn't wear one, it's all that less hat-related shit the staff has to deal with. And any amount of hat-related shit greater than zero is too much when there's an easy solution.
I agree. They just don't wanna put up with any amount of hat-related problems.
I know it's a hat. It's a very comfy hat. If it's so trivial, then why not allow it?
Gitty101 said:
Hats? Really? Surely you have bigger things to worry about?

OT: Blame the education system. As mentioned earlier by another member - it's easier simply to get rid of them all together and avoid all the problems they could potentially create, rather then trying to enforce yet another set of rules. The only exception I know of is if you have a disfigurement on your head, then you are allowed to conceal it with a hat...
I do, I just don't like doing it on the Escapist because I don't like impersonal, serious debates. There are too many random people here for me to give a damn.

I don't like the easy way out excuse, hopefully for obvious reasons.
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Double A said:
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5. Lice? Freakin' lice? How many people have lice these days? What's more, if you're worried about lice, don't let other people wear your hat. That's what I do. Calling BS yet again.
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Odds are you arent worried about Lice if you have them, so its the schools way of stopping a potential lawsuit. besides, all it takes is a hat laying ont he ground and someone picking it and wearing it, or someone taking it off your head and putting it on to get lice from someone who does have it. So its not always a voluntary thing. Besides, more people then you know have lice or present a situation where it would be easy to spread them. The estimate currently is (EDIT) <url=http://www.quantumhealth.com/news/head_lice_treatment.html>10% of elementary students will get lice.

Now, I was always told in my school that the general rule is if its offensive to someone then you have to take it off. The teachers could also have the freedom to say hats arent allowed in class if they so chose to. And most chose to, cause it was really easy to cheat with a hat. I've seen someone actually sew the answers into the bill so when they looked up at it they could just read the answer, and I've seen another kid who would create little pieces of thread sticking out so he had the answers in braille.

There was also because people would take them off other kids heads and it would cause disruption, more so then most other items. we actually had a list in the principal's office of most disruptive stolen items and it went:

1) Hat
2) Purses/Gym Bags
3) Books/Binders
4) Wallets
5) Shoes/Clothes
6) Accessories (glasses, watches, jewelry)
7) School Supplies

And they had some percentages after them but I cant remember what they were exactly.

Then there was the year some kids sneaked in weapons, and a worry that people would attach laser pointers on the bill and blind/harass someone with it, or they would attach a camera and do... stuff (there was a lot of things on the list and some were valid while others were pointless) with it.

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The real question is why do you need to wear a hat? Odds are good you're not going to work and wear one. so its better to learn early then to wait till you get to the workplace. So it shouldnt be a big deal to just do it and stop bitching. Right now, you're just coming off as entitled and like you need to wear a hat. Unless you have a VERY good reason to wear one, it shouldnt make a difference to take it off as a sign of respect.
1) I'm not worried about lice, therefore I have them? Was that a typo? Because I don't think I have lice. Not enough scalp itching.
2) I know of people who hide sticky notes with vocab words in their pants pockets and easily get away with cheating. Besides, teachers could just ask for kids to take hats off during tests if they're that worried.
3) It offends me that people like stifling my Freedom of Expression by wanting to wear a hat. Isn't that basically the same thing? Also, I have never heard of someone, other than someone too posh for their own good, of being offended by hats. Please explain this one to me.
4) I go outside sometimes, then the sun hits my eyes if I accidentally look too close at it (and I assume this is the case with everyone else). Still, I get the point, I'm not outside always. It just feels good on my head, like how some people wear scarves. Those things are at least as disruptive as hats (albeit less common), but they aren't banned from school grounds, even when it's not cold.

Although there is the small point about me being in theater class and a play, and that the stage lights are always in my damn face. I see spots a lot.

Will Holmes said:
It's more about partially blocking the face of the wearer or the line of sight of other people behind the wearer than anything. Schools function by communication between teacher and student/pupil. ANYTHING that breaks that, even partially, needs to be stopped in the classroom.

The lice argument is also pretty justified. Lice outbreaks aren't very common nowadays, but when they hit, they hit loads of people when hats are involved. People will try on each other's hats, it's a very instinctual thing to do.

Finally, people can and will use hats as a distraction. I should know, I'm writing this post instead of doing English homework.
If tilting my hat up doesn't work, I can just take it off. That doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to wear it in a hallway.
Lice: See above somewhere.
People will use anything and everything as a distraction.

The Becker said:
1. Why do you need a hat indoors?
2. It is a sign of respect
Says the man with a Kimbley avatar :p

1. I don't, other than comfort and when on stage during rehearsals. I feel incredibly awkward without my hat, unless I'm laying down.
2. It's a sign of respect because people say it's a sign of respect. If you can actually give me valid reasons that aren't outdated, I'll consider changing my stance.
dogstile said:
I was always more annoyed at them banning brightly coloured socks or underwear.

I mean, hat's I get, line of sight is needed while teaching and a hat is a convenient thing to use to hide your eyes. But socks and fucking underwear? I never understood that rule in the slightest.

I mean, it could apparently distract other students. If that was the case every person in my uni class would be absolutely fucked.
My school doesn't have these rules, and if it does, it isn't as enforced as the hat rule. Still, that sounds ridiculous.
Kalezian said:
Zeren said:
I support banning hats because I find it amusing to watch children complain about it.

yea, but then you have people like me who didn't give two shits about the school rules and wore our hats anyway.

Yea, I got in trouble for it, but I also agreed with the principle that a students looks should always go before their education, and suggested we go farther and ban any type of item that can be work on the head, like hair-clips, ribbons, glasses, ect. since these too can cause distractions in the classroom, I then suggested along with implementing a very strict school uniform [as in if you pants were above or below 1/4" of an inch you would be expelled], that all students must have cleanly shaven heads to prevent Lice from being a problem and that hairstyles in general can cause a distraction with students, even more so than wearing a solid black ballcap.


Then we had a nice long chat about how we should start teaching proper English and should someone use grammar improperly, he/she will be whipped no less than 80 times with a bullwhip.



in the end, others and myself were able to wear hats as long as they didn't cause a distraction in the class, and had nothing obscene on them, both reasonable requests.
I wish I had your principal.

I also wish that the punishment for wearing a hat wasn't "Get hat taken away." Kinda ruins the whole point of passive aggressive protesting.
 

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daftalchemist said:
However, I do think it is a little silly just because girls can wear their slouchy berets and stuff, but baseball caps have to be taken off for some reason. Just so long as kid aren't coming in with huge ten-gallon hats that block everyone's view of the board, I really don't see a problem with it.
This. I never understood why guys couldn't wear baseball caps (the only kind of hats they would care about at that age) but girls can wear any god damn thing they want in their hair or on their head. Of course, my objections were more along the lines of "they should have to take theirs off too!" than "let me wear my hat!" Applies the rules to everyone or no one, please. No applying them only to one gender.

Kakashi on crack said:
I have a feeling you'll just ignore this whole rebuttal though and pretend I never quoted you.
Maybe TC just did the sensible thing and turned that "PM when quoted" feature off. Not everyone who doesn't reply is pretend you didn't quote them. Some turn off that spam generating feature and simply don't care enough about various threads to come back to them, meaning they wouldn't know you quoted them in the first place.
 

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gmaverick019 said:
Phlakes said:
Because it's easier. If everyone just doesn't wear one, it's all that less hat-related shit the staff has to deal with. And any amount of hat-related shit greater than zero is too much when there's an easy solution.
WolfThomas said:
I don't care how outdated it is, hats (and by extension sunglasses) inside is rude. They no longer serve their purpose of protecting you from the sun and hinder polite conversation. Plus no matter what some kids think, wearing a Fedora (or commonly a Trilby mistaken for a fedora) does not make you cool.
this and this.


OP you come across as a whiny teenager, there is no reason to have to wear a hat inside, it's lost it's sole purpose besides fashion, and if you really that edgy about being in fashion, then go be another hipster who skips class to be edgy and smoke outside with all the other cool kids, your in school to learn, not to wear a damn hat.

plus have you seen some of the hat's people wear (how they wear them?)


when people wear those types of fucking hats and wear them on top of goofy hairstyles, to make the hat even taller, you bet your ass that shit is a distraction/gets in the way, it essentially makes everyone have a fucking anvil for a head to look around.
I did say my hat was leather, right?

This is my hat [http://i.imgur.com/K7x5c.jpg]. I look very, very bad without it, but I don't care because I wear it mainly for comfort. People who wear baseball caps backwards do look ridiculous.

Anyway, I fail to see how me wearing a hat interferes with my ability to learn, therefore they are not mutually exclusive.

Lastly, I'm bored/procrastinating, which is why I'm doing this. Also I'm probably too fat to be a hipster. Although if I don't say anything about it, it's pretty damn hard to refine my arguments and actually get permission to wear my hat inside from the silly old people who control my life.
 
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Double A said:
gmaverick019 said:
Phlakes said:
Because it's easier. If everyone just doesn't wear one, it's all that less hat-related shit the staff has to deal with. And any amount of hat-related shit greater than zero is too much when there's an easy solution.
WolfThomas said:
I don't care how outdated it is, hats (and by extension sunglasses) inside is rude. They no longer serve their purpose of protecting you from the sun and hinder polite conversation. Plus no matter what some kids think, wearing a Fedora (or commonly a Trilby mistaken for a fedora) does not make you cool.
this and this.


OP you come across as a whiny teenager, there is no reason to have to wear a hat inside, it's lost it's sole purpose besides fashion, and if you really that edgy about being in fashion, then go be another hipster who skips class to be edgy and smoke outside with all the other cool kids, your in school to learn, not to wear a damn hat.

plus have you seen some of the hat's people wear (how they wear them?)


when people wear those types of fucking hats and wear them on top of goofy hairstyles, to make the hat even taller, you bet your ass that shit is a distraction/gets in the way, it essentially makes everyone have a fucking anvil for a head to look around.
I did say my hat was leather, right?

This is my hat [http://i.imgur.com/K7x5c.jpg]. I look very, very bad without it, but I don't care because I wear it mainly for comfort. People who wear baseball caps backwards do look ridiculous.

Anyway, I fail to see how me wearing a hat interferes with my ability to learn, therefore they are not mutually exclusive.

Lastly, I'm bored/procrastinating, which is why I'm doing this. Also I'm probably too fat to be a hipster. Although if I don't say anything about it, it's pretty damn hard to refine my arguments and actually get permission to wear my hat inside from the silly old people who control my life.
i wasn't pointing at you specifically, but still that hat is pretty...ridiculous, not in a bad way, but still ridiculous.

so it is a fashion thing, if you say you look bad without it, and you wear it for comfort? something weighing down on your hair/head is for comfort?

and your saying baseball caps backwards look ridiculous..but your hat that is even bigger doesn't? that picture wasn't the fact that he was wearing it backwards, it was the fact of how out of proportion it was and how annoying it is with how long/big the bill/brim part of it is.
 

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Either way, college lets you wear hats. I rejoiced and practice that privilege everyday.
 

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Phlakes said:
Because it's easier. If everyone just doesn't wear one, it's all that less hat-related shit the staff has to deal with. And any amount of hat-related shit greater than zero is too much when there's an easy solution.
give it 20 years, everyone will go to school in a onesie and just be served meals and taught by computer consoles

i mean, computers are cheaper than teachers anyway.

and yes, there should always be schools, because people need some kind of social interaction
 

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Who cares, bro?

There are more important things to be upset about, thus everything less important than the most important thing is ultimately trivial.

What you should be worrying about is gamma ray bursts from supergiant stars within the vicinity of the solar system.
 

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gmaverick019 said:
there is no reason to have to wear a hat inside
http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=5280671

Nope. I wear hats when I need a haircut and can't get one at the moment. So, eat me, bro.
 

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Are you kidding? No hat, no play. Didnt you ever hear that mantra?

Unless they're talking about highschools. Which is probable. If someone finds it impolite, well, I disagree with their opinion, but I'd rather just take my hat off than offend them.
 

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I was aloud to wear hats when I was in High School, in fact that's when I started my hat collection.
 

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Kakashi on crack said:
Jack the Potato said:
Your arguments reek of whining. All of those reasons are actually pretty legitimate reasons, and it seems a bit immature to go off like you are because you can't wear a hat for half a day, 5 days a week. Hats aren't everything. Just be glad your school doesn't have uniforms.
This, THIIIIIISSS. and to make sure he sees this...



Double A said:
I googled it and I found this:

1. Big fucking deal, and no we shouldn't. That is an outdated and arguably sexist way of thinking.
2. They can, but that seems to be a height issue.
3. So are the rest of people's clothing. That's like banning steak knives because knives can be used to kill people, but not banning other knives.
4. Just like with almost any other possession? Great argument, school system.
5. Lice? Freakin' lice? How many people have lice these days? What's more, if you're worried about lice, don't let other people wear your hat. That's what I do. Calling BS yet again.
6. One word: Pockets.

The only thing I can think of that comes even close to a legitimate reason is it blocks your face on cameras. However, I'm pretty sure they could identify you by your hat, not to mention other clothing and backpack.

Can someone please explain why basically every school doesn't allow hats unless it's "spirit week?" Maybe I can actually convince someone to let me wear my damn hat.

1. Even though it says men, really its impolite for ANYONE to wear a hat indoors. If anything you should consider it a sign of pride that they mentioned men. The original reason was that men would tip their hats to each other and to women as a sign of respect. To top it off, it's impolite to wear a hat in ANY public or generally public building. You'd get in just as much trouble if yo uwore a hat to work.

2. not the point, there is still that potential and the school could stil lget yammered at by parents if a kid couldn't see because the kid in front of him wore a hat to school. (don't beleive me? Parents ***** and complain about EVERYTHING when it comes to the educational system)

3. Actually most schools ban ALL knives from being on their premesis. My physics teacher got yelled at by security just the other day because he brought a butter knife onto campus for his lunch. Besides that, schools are supposed to be a place where students can feel comfortable. Lets say you lived in a bad neighborhood and someone was wearing gang symbols from that neighborhood. would you really feel comfortable? Its not the hat, its the premesis. they ban al lot of things that can be considered gang symbols. For instance, here in Colorado you can't wear all red or all blue to school because those two colors are associated with two very prominent high-school gangs.

4. You forget that they also take away all those other possessions if people are playing games with them. The only difference here is they're saying "no" ahead of time.

5. There are a lot of people who get lice these days. It's any hat really. for instance, there's a safari hat that gets worn by about 20 people in one of my classes each day. Or look at Masque and Sandal, do you know how many peopel have worn those hats? Again, precaution. Or better yet: what if that waiter/waitress didn't wash their hands after going to the bathroom? Would you be saying "ohh it's just ecoli, why should we worry about bacteria that can be deadly?"


6. Come by here some time and see how many kids stash their drugs in their hats. This is just one of those things that they are using as a preventative.

Also, if your school doesn't have high-tech cameras, a hat can make a HUGE difference in tracking someone down. Especially if say, that person steals something and then gets rid of the hat.

I have a feeling you'll just ignore this whole rebuttal though and pretend I never quoted you.
Proven wrong! Ha.

1. Please explain how it's impolite. If it interferes with vision, I can just tilt it. Also my hat is a full-brim, so I can tip it. I probably would if I understood why it's a sign of respect. I assume these two things are related somehow.

2. True, but that doesn't seem to be at the fault of hats. Plus if someone asked me, I'd take off my hat so they could see. I'm stubborn about wearing them, not being a dick to people.

3. Actually I was using knives as a more general example, more along the lines of a country banning them. Sorry for the confusion.

4. Fair enough, but the only time my hat is tossed around like a Frisbee is when we're waiting for the bell to ring or the teacher is literally doing nothing (and acknowledges it). Kind of a dick move on the school system's part.

5. Good point, but the school could just say "You can't wear other people's hats." Teachers can't be that unobservant, can they?

6. I was under the impression that it was at least as easy to store drugs in backpacks.

7. Oh wow an incredibly valid point. Didn't think about it because I don't actually do crimes. However, I've seen my schools cameras, and they can easily distinguish people apart. I think instead of a blanket ban on hats like we currently have, it should be on a school-by-school basis.

Rayne870 said:
Double A said:
I googled it and I found this:

1 It is impolite to wear hats indoors. Men should always remove their hats when entering a building.
2 They can block the view of people behind them.
3 The colors are often associated with gangs.
4 People play games with them, taking them and playing keep away, etc.
5 Hats can increase the transmission of lice
6 They can be used to conceal weapons or cheating implements
1. Big fucking deal, and no we shouldn't. That is an outdated and arguably sexist way of thinking.
2. They can, but that seems to be a height issue.
3. So are the rest of people's clothing. That's like banning steak knives because knives can be used to kill people, but not banning other knives.
4. Just like with almost any other possession? Great argument, school system.
5. Lice? Freakin' lice? How many people have lice these days? What's more, if you're worried about lice, don't let other people wear your hat. That's what I do. Calling BS yet again.
6. One word: Pockets.

The only thing I can think of that comes even close to a legitimate reason is it blocks your face on cameras. However, I'm pretty sure they could identify you by your hat, not to mention other clothing and backpack.

Can someone please explain why basically every school doesn't allow hats unless it's "spirit week?" Maybe I can actually convince someone to let me wear my damn hat.
1. I kind of get that as an ex military guy, I simply go by the host's request in this case. Its a very small token of respect. Right now I have returned to college and not one instructor has said hats off, so my hat stays on.

2. So can a fat head, or a tall person with wide shoulders.

3. up next no more colored underwear!

4. That's some serious kindergarten shit, file that under harassment if its serious.

5. Only in people that don't know what shampoo and soap is.

6. Uh...wha? A tophat maybe...brb hiding a .44 under my N7 cap.

Anyway there really is no good reason, its just an old rule and you dont see it much in college, funny how that changes...
1. That's what I think as well. I'm not going to deny a polite request because I want to wear my hat.

4. Gah?

5. Considering I live in a first-world country, this is very unlikely.

6. People can more comfortably keep crap in pockets. Backpacks, too. Plus there's a chance your hat will fall off or get grabbed by someone. Pockets and backpacks? Not so much.
Fbuh said:
Zeren said:
I support banning hats because I find it amusing to watch children complain about it.
Indeed. Eventually, they will realize that nobody gives a shit about their weird desire to wear hats 24/7. Or they'll grow up and realize that wearing hats 24/7 is weird.
I'LL NEVER GROW UP HAHAHAHA!

Seriously, though. It's a hat. How is wearing it weird?
RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:
I was the smart ass that wore a hat to school daring a teacher to call me for a dress code violation. Since the rules said NOTHING about hats i enjoyed the look on their faces; and the enemies i made wearing my base ball cap, cowboy hat, Tyrolean(got some funny looks), and Union Kepi.

FUCK THE SYSTEM MAN!

Anyways.
1. Agreed; bunch of arbitrary rules made up by some dick cheese so he could fuck with people 500 years in the future.
2. I was the tallest person in class so i always sat in back; so a hat is meaningless.
3.Oh noes! the terrorist teenagers are revealing their affiliations in code! BAN THEM!
4. and i punched the dick weasel that tried to play keep away with my hats.
5. OH NOES! IGNORANCE LEADS TO PARASITE TRANSMISSION! BAN HATS! Or tell them sharing head-wear spreads lice. I find it funny that our school system bans something so they don't need to teach how to handle it properly.
6. So can my pockets, underwear, shoes, socks, shirt, belt, and back pack. Yet they remain ok.

Check for a solid rule that says you may not wear your hat. If it dosen't become a rule nazi and fuck them for lying to yo face.
Awesome. And hilarious.

I'll go check the rules now. Will requote when I find the answer.
 

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Double A said:
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emeraldrafael said:
Double A said:
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5. Lice? Freakin' lice? How many people have lice these days? What's more, if you're worried about lice, don't let other people wear your hat. That's what I do. Calling BS yet again.
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Odds are you arent worried about Lice if you have them, so its the schools way of stopping a potential lawsuit. besides, all it takes is a hat laying ont he ground and someone picking it and wearing it, or someone taking it off your head and putting it on to get lice from someone who does have it. So its not always a voluntary thing. Besides, more people then you know have lice or present a situation where it would be easy to spread them. The estimate currently is (EDIT) <url=http://www.quantumhealth.com/news/head_lice_treatment.html>10% of elementary students will get lice.

Now, I was always told in my school that the general rule is if its offensive to someone then you have to take it off. The teachers could also have the freedom to say hats arent allowed in class if they so chose to. And most chose to, cause it was really easy to cheat with a hat. I've seen someone actually sew the answers into the bill so when they looked up at it they could just read the answer, and I've seen another kid who would create little pieces of thread sticking out so he had the answers in braille.

There was also because people would take them off other kids heads and it would cause disruption, more so then most other items. we actually had a list in the principal's office of most disruptive stolen items and it went:

1) Hat
2) Purses/Gym Bags
3) Books/Binders
4) Wallets
5) Shoes/Clothes
6) Accessories (glasses, watches, jewelry)
7) School Supplies

And they had some percentages after them but I cant remember what they were exactly.

Then there was the year some kids sneaked in weapons, and a worry that people would attach laser pointers on the bill and blind/harass someone with it, or they would attach a camera and do... stuff (there was a lot of things on the list and some were valid while others were pointless) with it.

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The real question is why do you need to wear a hat? Odds are good you're not going to work and wear one. so its better to learn early then to wait till you get to the workplace. So it shouldnt be a big deal to just do it and stop bitching. Right now, you're just coming off as entitled and like you need to wear a hat. Unless you have a VERY good reason to wear one, it shouldnt make a difference to take it off as a sign of respect.
1) I'm not worried about lice, therefore I have them? Was that a typo? Because I don't think I have lice. Not enough scalp itching.
2) I know of people who hide sticky notes with vocab words in their pants pockets and easily get away with cheating. Besides, teachers could just ask for kids to take hats off during tests if they're that worried.
3) It offends me that people like stifling my Freedom of Expression by wanting to wear a hat. Isn't that basically the same thing? Also, I have never heard of someone, other than someone too posh for their own good, of being offended by hats. Please explain this one to me.
4) I go outside sometimes, then the sun hits my eyes if I accidentally look too close at it (and I assume this is the case with everyone else). Still, I get the point, I'm not outside always. It just feels good on my head, like how some people wear scarves. Those things are at least as disruptive as hats (albeit less common), but they aren't banned from school grounds, even when it's not cold.

Although there is the small point about me being in theater class and a play, and that the stage lights are always in my damn face. I see spots a lot.

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No its exactly as it says. If you're not worried about it, you're more likely to get it or already have it. Kids who worry about lice (In my school) didnt get it,w here the ones that said fuck it, I dont care and its free time off school did. I worried about it, so i did what i could to not get them, others didnt, they got them.

Then you can still see the notes or read the braille. its a lot easier to just glace up at a hat bill or make it look like you're nervously brushing the side of your hat then it is to look down in your pockets each time, since looking down draws more attention and makes an attentive teacher think you're cheating.

Oh yeah, you're clearly being downtrodden. the Civil Rights Movement issues have nothing on you, cause you cant wear a hat. meanwhile, you can still wear a shirt, pants, shoes, socks, etc to show your belief. But if you want to know about an offensive incident? Alright, i can think of a few, one I was apart of too.

1) Someone wore a hat into school one day that said Niggers arent people on the front, and on the back it had the word waiting... over a pair of shackles.
2) Another kid had a hat that said Jew Mad? Jew Leave! across the sides and on the front had Auschwitz was Idealt. There was also a swastika on the back.
3) I remember one year someone had started an argument after the Michael Vick dog fighting incident, where a kid wore Falcons hat in and someone said something to him about how he could support Vick (even though the kid made no mention of liking Vick at all, he just supported the Falcons cause he had family in Atlanta). that broke into a fight where the person who started the confrontation had actually brought in a ring and took a swing at the kid and scarred his face something fierce.
4) (the one I was involved in) If you listen to The X (a radio station in Pittsburgh) one of the things a guy Mark Madden may sometimes say is "the <url=http://www.freelogovector.com/gallery/p/tub/Philadelphia-Flyers-NHL.jpg>Philadelphia Flyers Symbol (hockey team) is nothing but a swastika with wings" So I bought a black hat, had this white space on the front and had a friend who works at a hat store sew into it a swastika with wings with the word Philly above it and Flyers below it (weirdly I offended more Flyers fans than anyone else).

and tats just some of the incidents.

You have a bigger problem of actually looking into the sun then not wearing the hat, and if little baby cant stand their eyes having to adjust to the sudden transition from artificial to natural light, then you should just live in a windowless box for all your life and solve the problem that way. Scarves can be for fashion, and can be for religion. we dont stop the jewish kids from wear Kippahs, but we did stop skull cap scarves and if a regular neck scarf was proving to be a distraction/safety hazard (one day somoene saw another person wearing one and went up behind them and pulled it tight, choking the girl), they are told to be removed while in the building. teachers can also request scarves be removed unless you have a good reason (one girl wore them cause she was sensitive about scars on her neck from when she was younger and ran into barbed wire).

Im sure you cant wear a hat in the middle of a theatre production unless its in the script as a costume so that doesnt fly with me. You chose to be in theatre, you shouldnt complain about lights in your eyes. I choose to play hockey, I dont complain when someone bigger and stronger then me sends me straight to the ground on a legal hit.
 

Robert632

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Because it's one of those things that while outdated and pointless is small enough that most places still enforce because most people will see it as childish to flip out over such a simple matter, thus no one will think to change it.
 

Pandaman1911

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Because you can tip your head and suddenly the teacher can't make eye contact with you. Plus it's just the way things have always been done. No sense getting all up in arms about what you are and aren't allowed to wear at school.
 

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I say it's just teachers do what they do best. Screwing with as much cool things as possible. I swear belts will be next... Oh wait, they banned then in my school too.
 

chadachada123

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I just don't get why non-disruptive hats are banned but mohawks, colored hair, colorful (as in tye-dye, neon rainbows, etc) shirts/shoes/pants, shirts with really distracting graphics, and girls showing plenty of leg and cleavage are all okay.

At least be consistent, schools.