Windows 8 Will Be a "Real New Push Into PC Gaming"

[Sajuuk-khar]

Color me uninformed, but what exactly is all this hate towards Games for Windows Live stemming from?

To me the Games for Windows client is just a crappy digital download service, but the GFWL elements implemented in the games is actually a good thing to me.

I would LOVE to have this being part of the entire gaming environment on PC, a-la Xbox Live, rather than the way it is now (game dependant).

Am I alone on this?

Nope. I've had zero issues with GFWL (mainly because I fucking UPDATE MY COMPUTER), and would love to see a true cross platform environment, as I have many friends on the 360, but there aren't too many games that I'm interested in for it (anymore). Give me party chat on the PC across to the 360, and they can charge me as much as they want to per year.

The point is MS launched GfWL as being the saviour of PC gaming. Instead it locked the platform down by forcing people to login to a digital service (at least once to register) and not exactly being mod-friendly for it's games. Aside from that MS introduced Silver and Gold subscriptions (simmilar to Xbox) which were later dropped because nobody bothered to buy gold.

Aside from that, devs apparently don't really like it either as what I've heard MS charges them (or used to) for updates/patches after the first few... which comes back onto the gamers because they just don't get much fixes.

 

[alinos]

Just more lies and empty promises to get people's hopes up. i love how they promised it years from now so everyone will forget about what they promised and won't call them out when they don't deliver. You really want me to think you haven't abandonned the PC Microsoft? Here's what you do.

1. Finish the Halo and Gears series on PC.
2. Stop making us wait longer for the PC version of 360 games that turns out to be a half assed, shoddily done port. Seriously, when was the last time this didn't happen?
3. Stop making the vast majority of the 360 library 360 exclusives.

What you shouldn't do is keep making empty promises.

1. Stop making the 360

extra point's which could be helpful

2. Get a consensus about a minimum,medium and a Maximum Computer spec setup that every 12-18 month's drop's medium to minimum and maximum to medium, so that people can know by buying Series xx card they will have 1-2 cycles of graphics(ie you buy medium you get 2-3yrs out of it before your next required upgrade)

3. Create a user friendly way for people to link there computers to their TV's so that even moron's can figure out how to use their PC as a console.

 

[Nouw]

You know guys, at least they're fucking trying; I'd rather have enthusiasm and fails than no effort and nothing getting done.

 

[Virgil]

Bill Gates personally promised the world for PC gaming with Windows 95 and while I don't think it was quite as bad as some folks make it out to be, it's sure not what we were expecting, either.

I don't know what you're talking about, Windows 95 was a huge leap for PC gaming. The boot disks were gone. Wrestling to get mice, joysticks, and sound cards to work in every game was almost a thing of the past. Not to mention that DirectX and the driver architecture in 95 practically paved the way for modern day video cards and 3D accelerators. I'd go so far to say that 95 was the biggest single technological leap towards making PC gaming a viable market for the kind of people that don't build their own computers.

 

[Locko96]

Aren't all of these updates Window's "major pushes into PC Gaming"? All of these pale in comparison to Steam or LIVE (can't say much for PSN. Don't use it.)

 

[UnravThreads]

Just more lies and empty promises to get people's hopes up. i love how they promised it years from now so everyone will forget about what they promised and won't call them out when they don't deliver. You really want me to think you haven't abandonned the PC Microsoft? Here's what you do.

1. Finish the Halo and Gears series on PC.
2. Stop making us wait longer for the PC version of 360 games that turns out to be a half assed, shoddily done port. Seriously, when was the last time this didn't happen?
3. Stop making the vast majority of the 360 library 360 exclusives.

What you shouldn't do is keep making empty promises.

I like the way you think.

To be honest, all this talk of "new pushes into gaming" and "better visuals" is a load of bull, whether it's from Microshaft or someone else. Gaming is stuck on DX9 at the moment, and until the next gen of consoles appears, 64bit becomes more mainstream (As it is with Win 7) and Win XP is discontinued from service, nothing will change. Some titles'll be Vista/7 exclusive (Like Just Cause 2) but until XP goes at the very earliest, we just won't see any real change for the PC.

 

[Jumwa]

Microsoft has no interest in "saving" PC gaming (as if it needed to be saved). They make more money due to royalties and fees from selling Xbox games. The vast, vast majourity of games made for Windows never see a penny going to Microsoft.

That's why they have--and will continue to--sabotage PC gaming by buying exclusive rights and preventing or delaying the release of PC titles.

The amount of money they make from xbox games is pathetic compared to windows licences.

As far as I know you don't need to pay a dime to Microsoft to make a game run on Windows if that's what you're trying to say.

 

[Luke5515]

Well well, Microsoft saying that they will begin supporting pc gamers better yet again. Maybe they should just have a constant press conference saying this just switching off from announcer to announcer so one can sleep and the other can lie. I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[Crimsane]

Sorry Microsoft, but I'll believe it when I see it. You suffer from Company Who Cried PC Gaming syndrome, so many false promises in the past.

 

[Terramax]

Microsoft could revolutionise gaming, but if it means having to use Windows Live then I'm not buying it.

 

[More Fun To Compute]

As far as I know you don't need to pay a dime to Microsoft to make a game run on Windows if that's what you're trying to say.

I'm talking about windows division profits.

Maybe they make a few dollars from selling games on GFWL or from Games for Windows branding but who cares really.

 

[Volothos]

They aren't going to make GFWL part of the OS are they? Please tell me they aren't.

I thought the exact same thing... i hope they don't do that

 

[Spudgun Man]

Yay, yet another bugged and broken OS from microsoft!
Maybe this one will only catch fire and start calling you names after you start it up for the 5th time.

 

[Chosen_Chaos]

Every notice how basically every other Windows OS sucks balls? 7, good. Vista bad. XP good. ME bad. 98 good. 95 bad.

Looks like they're right on track for a giant flop.

you forgot 2000.

Yeah, but 2000 wasn't really aimed at desktop users. But he did leave a couple of things out, and I'd do the list like this:

95, bad. 95b, average. 98, BAD. 98SE, ... meh. ME, OH GOD, THE HUMANITY! XP, ok... now we're starting to head towards an actually good OS. Vista, aaaand now we're heading in the exactly opposite direction.

Windows 7 was the first genuinely good MS OS that I've seen and even that had a few issues to start with. If the pattern continues, Windows 8 might end up as a) quite possibly the worst OS ever released and b) about 3-4 years late.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Windows is actually an obstacle to most gaming, due to the fact it's rarely optimised, insists on running extraneous background utilities and is super-stamped with Micr0s0ft's patented Paranoia Inside[sub]tm[/sub] technology.

That, and it's a target for anyone who ever wants to write a virus, worm, trojan or bot.

The way to write an OS is to make it small and un-intrusive, or at leasy WYSIWYG. When normal people spend over an hour trying to find "Print Document" in Word 2008, you know you've failed.

Just try and hit towards 7 more and WELL away from Xbox OS/Vista.

And remember that backward compatability is the reason most of us won't give up XP/2000 yet.

 

[DSK-]

Didn't they say the same thing about Vista when that came out?

 

[Jumwa]

I'm talking about windows division profits.

Maybe they make a few dollars from selling games on GFWL or from Games for Windows branding but who cares really.

Yes, and more PC games do nothing to sell more copies of Windows for them, so they don't care if they stymie PC gaming to benefit their Xbox division sales.

 

[Musiclly enhanced]

Every notice how basically every other Windows OS sucks balls? 7, good. Vista bad. XP good. ME bad. 98 good. 95 bad.

Looks like they're right on track for a giant flop.

its almost like they bring out a beta and update it cs look how crap vista was for games and now look at 7

 

[More Fun To Compute]

Yes, and more PC games do nothing to sell more copies of Windows for them, so they don't care if they stymie PC gaming to benefit their Xbox division sales.

Then why are they making games a selling point of a sequel to an OS which sells many times more than the xbox? A lot of people only use windows as an OS because of the games. There are alternatives but the game support is not as good.

 

[Vie]

I bet this turns out to be Knect support built into the OS and ports of the titles for it.