Mr Thin said:
OK, in all seriousness, I've never encountered any racism beyond the normal high school joking bullshit.
If you can even call that racism.
You can. The moment you cannot anymore is when this kinds of jokes stops being funny to anyone.
clipse15 said:
However the most racist thing i've probably experienced is when I held the door open for an elderly White gentleman with a walker, as he passed through the door he said "I don't need your help ******." Even though it was pretty obvious he needed tons of help.
You should have said: "Well, suit yourself." And let go of the door on the spot.
clipse15 said:
And then there is self-racism....yeah I'm going to stop while I'm ahead.
Sorry for the curiosity, but could you elaborate? If not, sorry for asking.
clipse15 said:
I'm not saying they were justified in saying it, but you have to get the context before you jump to shock and judgement.
I understand what you saying and have considered this myself a few times before. But in the end I came to the conclusio that shock and judgement are very sincere and heartfelt responses that should be even stronger after considering context.
Otherwise, this context will never die.
Of-the-Lion said:
No such thing.
stinkychops said:
Institutionalised racism is debatably fair
It's not fair even by definition, much less when debated about outside of KKK gatherings.
Necator15 said:
You know the hicks that we (Or at least I) try to pretend don't exist? You ever try to listen to them talk?
Dear god, I sat next to one in an English class sophomore year in high school. I heard every racist term I know (And several I didn't) said in the most derogatory manner possible. At first, I honestly thought he was joking.
The really worrying thing is that this guy is now in the military. Yes. He was given a gun.
You can't expect to run a obedient army without unintelligent people to be ordered around.
Necator15 said:
Seeing it from both sides racism is both stupid and in poor taste.
I'm honestly sorry that you had to learn this the hard way.
kortin said:
I never understood why, if a white guy makes a racist comment, he gets jumped, but if a black guy makes a racist comment, its all ok.
It's never ok, even when it comes from someone who suffered racism towards themselves in any level. In most of these cases, it's definitely out of deep frustration.
But, sadly in a way, still in a lot of places a white guy will get agreeing nods for making racist comments.
Icehearted said:
I was about to ask about your state too, in the very least to avoid such a hellhole. Icehearted, I know you spoke about the difficulty of landing a stable job to get the income to get the hell out of there, but still... don't give it up!
Slim-Shot said:
My Grandfather was old school air force. Whenever he would go for an afternoon nap, he would always say that he was off for a bit of "Maori PT".
Racism is kind of ingrained in NZ culture, but never in a really negative way. Everyone just seems to kind of laugh about it. Ike if you're late, the boss will ask if you're running on "Island time".
I think the only genuine racism in NZ (with the notable exception of the skinhead gangs around) actually come from the more militant Maori tribes.
Please understand I'm not indirectly accusing you nor your grandfather of being racist, but these little jokes and idioms perpetuating small seeds of stereotypes are a bit dangerous, because it create a notion that "some kinds" of racisms can be more innocuous than others.
And that's a harmful thought pattern, at the very least because it slow downs the process of eliminating racism as a sociological entity.
Just do some research into why there are some more militant Maori tribes. I'm sure you'll not find absolutely all rationales to be so compassionate, but it's important to consider the context, as another poster said before.
rancher of monsters said:
Let's see I had someone right ****** on my desk during Jr. High. I also had a white girl (possbily Italian, I can't remember) tell me that, "they wouldn't be called stereotypes if they weren't true". Considering some of the stereotypes about white and Italian people I think she should be happy that isn't true.
Gotta love people with no concept of what a dictionary is.
rancher of monsters said:
There is no organization to promote the welfare of white students, or people of European (or white American) descent.
Feels bad that racism is still so alive in America.
Yeah, I decided to quote the two last sentences because they illustrate a point.
rancher of monsters said:
There is no organization to promote the welfare of white students, or people of European (or white American) descent.
Feels bad that racism is still so alive in America.
I agree.
Hardcore_gamer said:
ninjastovall0 said:
I dont even think we should acknowledge "race" as we are all people.
Why? While fighting racism is good and all trying to pretend that races don't actually exist is just bullshit political correctness. Not to mention that it is completely counter productive, since the best way to make peoples differences stand out is to simply pretend that they don't exist forcing everyone to keep their hate/dislike a secret thus resulting in the illusion that everyone is happy when people are in fact not.
I don't know, a point in time where the skin color distinctions fail to be important to anyone outside of the bounds of actual visual perception sounds like a good day to me.
Though I agree that policital correctness is one of the worst plagues to come from the 90's, I did not interepreted Hardcore_gamer's comment like you did.
Anyway, what I do not agree with is the point about making people's differences stand out, because to kill racism is to make what defines us all as humans (our similarities) is what needs to come to the fore.
The differences should be about what makes us individuals.