Cambodia, which was right next door, had a higher rate of death than Vietnam did due to that whole Khmer Rouge thing. So, yes, it could have afforded it. Dragging things out even more than they already were would've been horrible, but it wouldn't have been impossible. Other nations have been mistreated worse than Vietnam and have recovered.PaulH said:Vietnam itself couldn't afford 4 more years of fighting, and the effects far more worse in the attempt of rebuilding. Which would have been impossible anything North of Saigon.
Which is a different country. You do understand the Vietnamese FOUGHT with the Khmer Rouge at the end of the US occupation, and were responsible for ousting it from power. If somebody is giving me guns when I need them, I'll call them an 'ally' as well. Right up until I don't need them anymore.Veylon said:Cambodia, which was right next door, had a higher rate of death than Vietnam did due to that whole Khmer Rouge thing. So, yes, it could have afforded it. Dragging things out even more than they already were would've been horrible, but it wouldn't have been impossible. Other nations have been mistreated worse than Vietnam and have recovered.
I'm not trying to whitewash the war; I'm trying un-whitewash the the immediate post-war record of the Saigon regime. There are no innocents here.
Actually no, we're taught the exact opposite. Hell, some schools even ban the wearing of American flags because that's "divisive"...WinterWyvern said:I bet they don't. They live in a culture that teaches them since an early age that 'Murica is the best country and is never wrong and their soldiers are good guys.
I would play the heck out of such game, tho.
So, a boating simulator to get to the mainland?008Zulu said:I would play that game. In it, Australia would be the good guys.
You are completely missing the point. My point is that the Cambodians had it worse than the Vietnams and it wasn't impossible for them to rebuild, so it wouldn't have been impossible for the Vietnamese to do the same. I don't care whose side anyone was on.PaulH said:Which is a different country. You do understand the Vietnamese FOUGHT with the Khmer Rouge at the end of the US occupation, and were responsible for ousting it from power. If somebody is giving me guns when I need them, I'll call them an 'ally' as well. Right up until I don't need them anymore.
I'm just going to copypasta what I wrote ... I feel as you conveniently ignoring it is part of the problem.Veylon said:You are completely missing the point. My point is that the Cambodians had it worse than the Vietnams and it wasn't impossible for them to rebuild, so it wouldn't have been impossible for the Vietnamese to do the same. I don't care whose side anyone was on.
Cambodia is a nation of 8 million. Completely different situation ... and their government didn't survive much longer either. There is a difference between losing 25% of its population to famine and genocide, and losing 15% of the population to war. Stop pretending otherwise. Much less, stop pretending that losing such collateral is at all maintainable in any protracted military capacity.If anything, extending the war would have meant the Cambodian genocide might have continued. It goes only to highlight the point that I had; "What exactly would you win?" Do we need to pretend a country can afford a war if it only loses 25% of its population?
Anytime a British person complains about American imperialism or talks about American elitism I reel in pain at the irony of it.Li Mu said:I'm a Brit
Honestly I'd say PMC's, and most of the time American based ones, are becoming just as common...WOPR said:I would, but that's just because I'm really tired of enemies being...
Nazis
Soviets
Koreans
Zombies
Unoriginally Designed Aliens
Wyverns pretending to be dragons
Some of us "Muricans" are fortunate enough to be raised by parents who teach their children to see their country's history in a more nuetral, balanced way rather than nurturing blind devotion to their country, or, more pertinently, their government. I am one such person.WinterWyvern said:I bet they don't. They live in a culture that teaches them since an early age that 'Murica is the best country and is never wrong and their soldiers are good guys.
I would play the heck out of such game, tho.