whycantibelinus said:
gmer412 said:
Kiefer13 said:
gmer412 said:
I'm playing KOTOR now (I knew the spoiler before now), and so far I can only vaguely see how I'm the bad guy. My circumstances for being where I was at the beginning are pretty vague, but other than that there's no big evidence I can see. What I mean is that I don't think someone with no outside knowledge could know that plot point where I am in the story. Maybe it's well-explained, but I dunno.
I personally thought that it was one of the most skillfully implemented plot twists I've ever seen in a game. There's plenty of foreshadowing if you look back closely enough (some of the things the council says, the fact that you are able to master Jedi training so quickly, among other things), and yet it still surprised me when the big reveal was pulled.
Actually, reflecting on it, you're right. The visions of Bastila attacking Revan, knowing where the star maps were, yeah. It is well done.
I'm really surprised by how many people have mentioned KOTOR. My friend from work lent me the game earlier this year, promising me that I'd love the plot, but it would really surprise me. I went home, played three or four hours of the game, and then came back and told him
exactly what was going to happen in the story. Maybe they overdid the foreshadowing, but there were all kinds of clues right from the start - the amnesia, the fact you already knew (it being a jedi game) that you had Force powers, and the biggest clue of all; Revan never showing his face in the flashback cutscenes. A brilliant game, but with a very predictable storyline.
badgersprite said:
Little things always bug me a lot. Like, I never really understood in Mass Effect why they kept Liara on the ship and let her join the shore party. I mean, she has no military training, and, basically the first thing she does after you rescue her is faint. oO Meh. It's lucky for her she kind of grew on me...
I called the Liara situation totally wrong. After her all-too-convenient encounter with the Geth and the weird blue defensive shield...thing she was trapped in, I was suspicious. Then after missions, she'd start reaching around for Shepherd's head doing God knows what, after which she would
very suspiciously have a fainting attack and have to go be alone for a while. I was convinced she was a double agent, rooting out your secrets or strategies and using her alone time to record them or transmit them to someone. It made a lot of sense when I thought about it, and I was kinda dissapointed to find out she was just a crappy character
OT: How have we gotten this far without mentioning the ending of Monkey Island 2? The funfair, LeChuck as your brother, the fact it was the nightmare story of your child self...what the hell, man? That one still has me scratching my head today, about a decade after I finished the game.